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The GTAIV Comparison Head-to-Head Thread Episode V: An Epic Tale of ManBoobs and Woe
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Kabuki Waq
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Surfheart said:Well I've just got back from the midnight launch at my local EB here in Australia.
I've put 4 hours into a friends copy of the 360 version game on the same TV that I'm now playing the PS3 version on.
Just some quick observations
-PS3 image is softer, but doesn't look "low res"
-Shadows and distant objects look less "dotty" than 360 version.
-Framerate seems slightly less consistant than 360 version particularly noticeable with the character animations during cutscenes and the intro.
-PS3 seems to have zero antialiasing. On the 360, the 2xAA was clearly visible on stairsteps (you could see the averaged pixels) on the PS3 I can't see any antialiasing being applied at all. However the softer IQ tends to hide the aliasing.
No pop-in of any note, umm notedBut then I never noticed any on the 360 version (Wasn't looking)
I would say overall I prefered the PS3 image. The 360 looks quite harsh in comparison and exibits alot of artifacting but on the other hand it's also sharper and more vibrant.
Just my 2 cents.
Harsh look? artifacting? can you please expand on these points a little bit?
furrygiblets
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belvedere said:
Uh-ho RUN FOR THE HILLS
Zombie James
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That tree :lol
Francias Castiglione
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Karma said:
I guess you could try dropping a helicopter on it really quickly?
furrygiblets
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Right that's it...I DEMAND R* put in a doom tree in a patch update!
Francias Castiglione said:
You know, your tag kinda makes me wonder. Because another guy confirmed this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10953236&postcount=3000
Are you sure you have the game? Because to say theres NO popup is a bit hard to swallow.
I can understand and appreciate your concern for this issue, but I must admit, I've always been a fan of full screen blurs. The original Deus Ex Invisible War (not a great game) used such a blur, but people bitched and moaned about it and it was removed in a later patch. I felt that the sharper image was far less attractive.andrewfee said:
I dunno, but I'm generally not a fan of razor sharp imagery without heavy AA. For instance, my TV is only 1366x768 and I can use 1360x768 resolution with PC games (pixel by pixel image, but missing some pixels on the edge). It looks very sharp, but I actually prefer using slightly lower resolutions in order to achieve that softer look.
It's very much a matter of opinion, however. I absolutely LOVE the way the various PS3 shots of GTAIV look. The software image quality is fantastic. The heavy use of depth of field and the way in which trees are rendered prevents shimmering from becoming an issue, as far as I can tell. I'm sure some objects will shimmer, but it shouldn't be all that bad. Call of Duty 4 used some pretty noisy looking foliage that ended up looking significantly worse when upscaled. Even on my CRT monitor at a high resolution with edge-AA, that foliage is pretty awful. Halo 3 simply didn't use any AA, however, and appeared very jagged AND blurry.
Francias Castiglione said:
Are you driving in the first person view? I usually do, and there is nary a pop-up like that when I do, however I can confirm that when I went into the farthest 3rd person view and nailed the gas, that tree popped up real late or not at all (when I drove right past it). However in the 1st person view, as soon as I rounded that corner it was already there.
fortified_concept
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Dot50Cal serious question now. Is it just the specific tree or there are other invisible things in the game too? If it's just the tree it might just be a bug. Also I hear there are people who have the game in PS3, can you guys make a gif of that tree/area in the PS3 version to see if it happens there too -or just check it and tell us if it happens?
Just found out from my EB games & I posted it in the official thread. Apparently anyone that pre-ordered the PS3 regular version of GTA4 is supposed to get a GTA4 Lolli pop girl poster, the poster looks awesome.
The guy didn't have any info about the 360 version in regards to the poster or if anything would be given away with it.
The guy didn't have any info about the 360 version in regards to the poster or if anything would be given away with it.
cjtiger300
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how is it possible that this thread has moved 30 pages since I went to sleep (I did sleep 15 hrs through as I will be staying up all night playing after the Midnight launch)?
Can anyone give me a brief synopsis of what has went in these 30 plus pages?
Can anyone give me a brief synopsis of what has went in these 30 plus pages?
Agent Ironside
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Dot50Cal said:
Seemingly random objects. Its only the roadside ones I'm concerned with really.
Dont hotlink these.
These places need to be examined IMMEDIATELY by other owners of the game.
Lord Error
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Everything he described can be seen if you compare those two screens posted earlier:Kabuki Waq said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10951568&postcount=2459
PS3 version is strange - it's true that if you look at some edges there seems to be no regular AA, just as he said, but many things look very smooth and blend really nicely into each other. Maybe it's that thing with PS3 where when the game uses the HDR, the AA algorithm doesn't work on all the edges (Motorstorm is an example of this) There also seems to be something that looks like film grain almost, over the PS3 shot. I don't know if that's a byproduct of their video capture, but I hope not, as it looks pretty nice as it is.
Ploid 3.0
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Pop in, and graphics never effected people's enjoyment of the GTAs.
Now all of a sudden people are having mixed feelings? The main gta performance problem with the GTAs were framerates. That would take the fun out to the point where you would avoid causing much trouble in the game. You also wouldnt drive to your full speed demon potential. Lucky for everyone, not only does it look amazing on both but framerate isn't nagging at us when our GTA Evil Grin(tm) starts flaring up.
We all win, until PC bust in with sexy modding.
Now all of a sudden people are having mixed feelings? The main gta performance problem with the GTAs were framerates. That would take the fun out to the point where you would avoid causing much trouble in the game. You also wouldnt drive to your full speed demon potential. Lucky for everyone, not only does it look amazing on both but framerate isn't nagging at us when our GTA Evil Grin(tm) starts flaring up.
We all win, until PC bust in with sexy modding.
Francias Castiglione
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Dot50Cal said:
I've seriously only noticed pop-up on shop interiors and background objects. I haven't hit anything that hasn't been there the second before. I don't know what to day. Oh and as for the tag I got it for questioning whether 60 player Resistance will actually be fun (Frontlines/BF2) or a clusterfuck. How dare I?
Treo360 said:
I drive in the middle third person distance all the time usually.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
WWTD?
What would Treebeard do?
THE MOOD TREE
Thank goodness I was able to avoid hitting that automobile by using that tree to stop! I sure am lucky that tree loaded up really fast, I could see it from a half-county away from it!
Now I better back up my car and try to see if that tree is hurt. Hey, where did the tree go? The second I got near it, it disa- vanished?
Thank goodness I was able to avoid hitting that automobile by using that tree to stop! I sure am lucky that tree loaded up really fast, I could see it from a half-county away from it!
Now I better back up my car and try to see if that tree is hurt. Hey, where did the tree go? The second I got near it, it disa- vanished?
Jtyettis said:
It's probably safe to assume that the target was 720p for both consoles. We know the title was delayed due in part to difficulty Rockstar encountered bending the PS3 to their will. Speculation, of course, but the additional time could have been used to optimize after the decision was made to lower the resolution on the PS3 build.
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