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[FrankT]

It's probably safe to assume that the target was 720p for both consoles. We know the title was delayed due in part to difficulty Rockstar encountered bending the PS3 to their will. Speculation, of course, but the additional time could have been used to optimize after the decision was made to lower the resolution on the PS3 build.

Touche

 

[furrygiblets]

Could someone please tell me roughly the different versions of AA from like worst to best? Just curious

 

[EverSoTrendy]

Sierra, LOL, like they make games that push the limit. Why are you even talking about Ghost Busters anyway?

 

[Elbrain]

Me too please.

Also, if 360 is 720p 2xMSAA, and PS3 is 630p, how much/what type of AA does PS3 have? 2xQuincunx AA?

So the PS3 is 630p officially or what?

 

[Firewire]

Damn the bad news just keeps on coming doesn't it?

To be honest the guy said he didn't know, as he wasn't present when the got their shipments. Isn't it usually safe to assume that some sort of give away will be given with 360 pre-orders. I doubt only the PS3 version gets a give away, it just remains to be seen what 360 pre-orders will get.

 

[fortified_concept]

So the PS3 is 630p officially or what?

I think tomorrow we'll know for sure

 

[cgcg]

Shh! Dont tell andrewfee!

andrewfee, I see screen tearing!!!

 

[j-wood]

Seemingly random objects. Its only the roadside ones I'm concerned with really.
Dont hotlink these.

DotCal...What console is this running on? 360 or PS3?

 

[urk]

So the PS3 is 630p officially or what?

Not officially, but it's all but confirmed. The source has been accurate with each title he's put under the microscope.

But this should really put the resolution argument to bed. If GTAIV looks better on the PS3, and by all accounts thus far, it does, then all this pixel counting amounts to is blast processing.

 

[Elbrain]

I think tomorrow we'll know for sure

OK. Don't know whats what in this thread.

 

[cyberheater]

DotCal...What console is this running on? 360 or PS3?

Now you're doing it deliberately.

 

[Evlar]

DotCal...What console is this running on? 360 or PS3?

360 review release running off the HDD in a Dev Kit.

 

[sprocket]

It's probably safe to assume that the target was 720p for both consoles. We know the title was delayed due in part to difficulty Rockstar encountered bending the PS3 to their will. Speculation, of course, but the additional time could have been used to optimize after the decision was made to lower the resolution on the PS3 build.

Yet ..even if this is true .. the ps3 version still is said to look better and the 360 is said to look jagged.

 

[proposition]

You got to wonder why they didn't just go 630p with the X360 version as well, but yea I believe some kind of Quincunx AA.

I believe that R* probably felt that the performance on the 360 at 720p was close enough to the PS3 at 630p that it wasn't worth lowering the resolution, but performance at 720p on PS3 wasn't acceptable enough.

 

[PnCIa]

Actually the PS3 videograbs don´t look more blurry overall than those from the 360. Maybe they´re using a type of edge blur like Crysis does. Unlike Quinux, this doesn´t blur the whole image, but only the outlines of an object.

 

[Router]

I just carjacked some woman. I went to drive off but there was a tree in front of me. I looked in the rear view and there was another right behind me. I tried to open the door and run away but another one appeared blocking my escape.

I now have a fear of trees both in game and the real world.

 

[Killthee]

DotCal...What console is this running on? 360 or PS3?

Circles.....

360 Devkit using the HDD, same thing happens when he uses the disc (review build)...

 

[DenogginizerOS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq04GKYsakQ

Tees don't play. BEWARE!!!!

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

I believe that R* probably felt that the performance on the 360 at 720p was close enough to the PS3 at 630p that it wasn't worth lowering the resolution, but performance at 720p on PS3 wasn't acceptable enough.

LOL. Fucking stop it already. This horse has been beaten too much, considering nobody knows for sure how true it even comes close to being.

 

[fortified_concept]

360 review release running off the HDD in a Dev Kit.

But is it a PS3 or a 360 dev kit? We weren't clear on that, Dot50cal hasn't specified.

 

[FrankT]

So the PS3 is 630p officially or what?

Yea, posted awhile back. Believe someone mentioned this is the same guy who confirmed the Halo 3 res as well.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

 

[Crushed]

Yet ..even if this is true .. the ps3 version still is said to look better and the 360 is said to look jagged.

man you really don't give it a rest do you

 

[Slamo]

I believe that R* probably felt that the performance on the 360 at 720p was close enough to the PS3 at 630p that it wasn't worth lowering the resolution, but performance at 720p on PS3 wasn't acceptable enough.

Believe.

I just carjacked some woman. I went to drive off but there was a tree in front of me. I looked in the rear view and there was another right behind me. I tried to open the door and run away but another one appeared blocking my escape.

I now have a fear of trees both in game and the real world.

:lol

 

[gregor7777]

So I'm curious, not to discredit the guy but who exactly is Quaz51 and why are people taking his word like fact? I just want background on why his post is 100% truth. All I see is him stating that the resolution is 630p without any specific support.

Because you can test it yourself to verify, if you don't mind counting hundreds of steps.

It's not brain surgery. My man just has the time on his hands.


So now that we have MGO & GTA4 running at near PS2 resolutions, I think we can safely say the architecture of the PS3 has throughly defeated two of the best developers in the business.

Break out the duct tape gentlemen.

 

[proposition]

LOL. Fucking stop it already. This horse has been beaten too much, considering nobody knows for sure how true it even comes close to being.

You're cute. I was replying to a question. Now go away, thanks.

 

[Tieno]

Yea, posted awhile back. Believe someone mentioned this is the game guy who confirmed the Halo 3 res.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1153806&postcount=513

and MGO (and COD4?). We call him "The Pixel Hunter" (or is it Counter?)

 

[sprocket]

man you really don't give it a rest do you

what I am just speaking the facts. some people here were asking for the truth.

are you saying I am wrong?

 

[FrankT]

and MGO (and COD4?). We call him "The Pixel Hunter"

Ah, I see.

 

[ScrabbleBanshee]

You're cute. I was replying to a question. Now go away, thanks.

Fucking stop it already.

 

[proposition]

Fucking stop it already.

Stop what, exactly? Questioning why certain things are the way they are on certain platforms? I don't even know what you're accusing me of, it's hard to reply to you.

 

[furrygiblets]

You're cute. I was replying to a question. Now go away, thanks.

Why are you lying? There was no question asked.

 

[Evlar]

But is it a PS3 or a 360 dev kit? We weren't clear on that, Dot50cal hasn't specified.

Ehh?

360 review release running off the HDD in a Dev Kit.

He's probably running the 360 review release on a 360 Dev Kit, don't you think? At any rate he's stated it is the 360 version multiple times and even posted a pic of his 360 Dev Kit.

 

[davygee]

Can people please post a few PS3 screengrabs then. I've seen the PNG comparison, but would like a few different shots to make up my mind.

 

[urk]

what I am just speaking the facts. some people here were asking for the truth.

are you saying I am wrong?

The truth is that Rockstar could not get GTAIV to run at native 720p on the PS3. It also appears that in lowering the resolution to compensate for performance factors, they were able to add some additional bells and whistles that makes it look awesomer.

There is also a sweet ass tree on the 360 version that is not confirmed for PS3.

This is Living. Jump in. Whatever.

 

[Agent Ironside]

Anybody consider the fact that this might be a boobi trap set by Rockstar themselves?

 

[Loudninja]

Can people please post a few PS3 screengrabs then. I've seen the PNG comparison, but would like a few different shots to make up my mind.

PNG?

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

First post in this fucked up thread. I post at B3D and Quaz just doesn't pick and choose over AAA games. He does this with every game and he is always right. Not joining the fray talking about the differences in the two versions of GTA, just giving background to what he does. He does this with every game and then he talks about why the developers will do this. Quaz is legit.

 

[Brashnir]

I really don't understand how Emiru keeps getting unbanned. He's a professional 360 fanboy/Ps3 troll.

One could ask the same question about a lot of posters on all sides of the console wars. The answer is that GAF wants the fandouchery, obviously.

 

[proposition]

Why are you lying? There was no question asked.

Not explicitly, but there's a pretty implicit question in saying 'you have to wonder why there's X instead of Y'.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

I just carjacked some woman. I went to drive off but there was a tree in front of me. I looked in the rear view and there was another right behind me. I tried to open the door and run away but another one appeared blocking my escape.

I now have a fear of trees both in game and the real world.

:lol :lol Oh man. That was a good one.

 

[cyberheater]

I believe that R* probably felt that the performance on the 360 at 720p was close enough to the PS3 at 630p that it wasn't worth lowering the resolution, but performance at 720p on PS3 wasn't acceptable enough.

Maybe they could add the option to switch to this resolution in a future 360 patch.

They could call it "The HD era really only starts when we say it does <PS3 mode>" or something.

 

[Router]

First post in this fucked up thread. I post at B3D and Quaz just doesn't pick and choose over AAA games. He does this with every game and he is always right. Not joining the fray talking about the differences in the two versions of GTA, just giving background to what he does. He does this with every game and then he talks about why the developers will do this. Quaz is legit.

Thats ok. We've all moved on to the awesomeness that is the ''Tree of Doom''.

 

[Firewire]

I don't know why everyone is freaking out about visuals so much, most of you will be so into the game you won't notice the visual quirks. What I find really disturbing is the pop up's that Dot50Cal has shown. That should be everyones concern!

 

[DeadGzuz]

-PS3 seems to have zero antialiasing. On the 360, the 2xAA was clearly visible on stairsteps (you could see the averaged pixels) on the PS3 I can't see any antialiasing being applied at all. However the softer IQ tends to hide the aliasing.

With zero AA (whether MSAA or otherwise) and 630P it would be a complete mess and all reviews would slam it. The pixels are too big (see Halo 3). If you say it has "softer IQ" then it must have some sort of AA. If the PS3 version has AF then that will also help IQ immensely with things like road textures.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

First post in this fucked up thread. I post at B3D and Quaz just doesn't pick and choose over AAA games. He does this with every game and he is always right. Not joining the fray talking about the differences in the two versions of GTA, just giving background to what he does. He does this with every game and then he talks about why the developers will do this. Quaz is legit.

I don't dispute Quaz at all. But given that COD4 and Halo3 both run at sub 720P, I guess some are trying to comprehend what the big deal is over GTAIV at 630P?

 

[urk]

One could ask the same question about a lot of posters on all sides of the console wars. The answer is that GAF wants the fandouchery, obviously.

It's more likely that if EviLore and crew banned people for being fanboys, this place would be as empty as a sidewalk before a tree sprouted.

 

[Vaxadrin]

Can people please post a few PS3 screengrabs then. I've seen the PNG comparison, but would like a few different shots to make up my mind.

 

[sprocket]

The truth is that Rockstar could not get GTAIV to run at native 720p on the PS3. It also appears that in lowering the resolution to compensate for performance factors, they were able to add some additional bells and whistles that makes it look awesomer.

There is also a sweet ass tree on the 360 version that is not confirmed for PS3.

This is Living. Jump in. Whatever.

or


that R* didn't want to make the 360 even more jaggy than it already is. That it doesn't have the power to do enough PP effects to smooth it out like the ps3.


:lol

I mean hell if I know what the deal is. but its just as good of a response as yours!

 

[Killthee]

Ehh?

He's probably running the 360 review release on a 360 Dev Kit, don't you think? At any rate he's stated it is the 360 version multiple times and even posted a pic of his 360 Dev Kit.

It was a joke, he was making fun of all the people repeatedly asking what version, what build, is his system old or new, etc.

 

[Brashnir]

It's more likely that if EviLore and crew banned people for being fanboys, this place would be as empty as a sidewalk before a tree sprouted.

that was the implication of my post, yes.