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The Gundam |OT2| Another 5 years of Gunpla, Origins, and GUNDAMUUUU!

Menthuss

Member
Ha, I guess Gundam is not for me because Banagher and all the redeem-the-mass-murderer-girl shit was really annoying (Shinji Ikari levels of annoying), I just wanted him to shoot and stop fucking crying but I imagine that was too much to ask.

I recommend you watch Gundam SEED and Gundam SEED Destiny. Both feature fantastic protagonists.

Don't do it.
 

cntr

Banned
The Gundams with great protagonists, out of the ones I've experienced:

G-Tekketsu.
G Gundam
Gundam X

...that's all I know.
 
Best thing about Banagher is that he stole Kamille's haircut.

quality-zeta_gundam.jpg
 

Hatty

Member
Amuro is probably still the best. I like Kamille the best but he seems unpopular. Loran and Judau are cool too, Uso is just a murder machine
 
Uso is pretty alright. It's not like he wants to kill a bunch of people, he just happens to be pretty good at it.
Usso has the highest body count of all, which is funny and scary at the same time actually. Better chance of surviving a fight with Judau than god damn Uso.
Amuro is probably still the best. I like Kamille the best but he seems unpopular. Loran and Judau are cool too, Uso is just a murder machine
Kamille was fine, just needed several smacks upside his head to grow up. I actually liked him more than Judau cause Judau just came off as a fucking street punk half the time.
 
Gundam Protagonists I like a lot
Amuro
Kamille
Bernie / AL
Sei

Protagonists I like well enough
Domon
Banagher
Judah
Kou
Mikatzuki
Sets unable
Flit


Protagonists I think are just kind of alright:
Garrod
Loran
That dude from g reko
Try Team
Shiro
Heero


Protagonists I don't like
Kiran
Shinn
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Good leads.

Heero in episode 1-5. Unique, fu. And legit deadly. Actually felt like a child soldier should.
Judau - tons of charm and personality felt like a child that he is

Okay leads

Amuro - not bad but he is way overdone
Kira - same as above but a little worse.

Meh leads
Banagher
Garrod
Laura

Bad
Everyone else

Trump tier
Shinn
Flit
 
If Kamille is actually likable then why do people think he's unlikable? I mean yeah he complained, but the kid always came proper when he needed to.
Good leads.

Heero in episode 1-5. Unique, fu. And legit deadly. Actually felt like a child soldier should.
Judau - tons of charm and personality felt like a child that he is

Okay leads

Amuro - not bad but he is way overdone
Kira - same as above but a little worse.

Meh leads
Banagher
Garrod
Laura

Bad
Everyone else

Trump tier
Shinn
Flit
You know Beth if you like Heero you should check out Full Metal Panic. Sosuke is just too good.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
If Kamille is actually likable then why do people think he's unlikable? I mean yeah he complained, but the kid always came proper when he needed to.

You know Beth if you like Heero you should check out Full Metal Panic. Sosuke is just too good.
I loved FMP and Second Raid....hard Fu.

Tess/Kanade is an amazing pairing
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I really need to watch that again...who would even be the dominant one in that pairing? They never struck me as a Dorothy x Relena couple.
Dominate? Neither really. More like just drinking buddies over Sasuke being a helpless but love able chump and they have some fun together. No need to be an actual couple. Just two ladies who ar strong and want to enjoy the moment having a good time.
 
Dominate? Neither really. More like just drinking buddies over Sasuke being a helpless but love able chump and they have some fun together. No need to be an actual couple. Just two ladies who ar strong and want to enjoy the moment having a good time.
Oh ok, usually your ships tend to be more intimate...still need to...try to watch Cross Ange. I've been way too busy with a hectic life to watch it lately.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Oh ok, usually your ships tend to be more intimate...still need to...try to watch Cross Ange. I've been way too busy with a hectic life to watch it lately.
Lol that is true they do but for as man hatred as I can be I love the cast men included and I also love the females and I just don't see the castin FMP ever being in any life long relationship besides as friends.

Cross Ang well Hilda makes it worth it but goddess it's so bad.
 
Lol that is true they do but for as man hatred as I can be I love the cast men included and I also love the females and I just don't see the castin FMP ever being in any life long relationship besides as friends.

Cross Ang well Hilda makes it worth it but goddess it's so bad.
I can easily see Mao being in some sort of lesbian relationship, but I don't think it works with any other female in the cast though unless she just winds up in a relationship with the twincest chicks.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I can easily see Mao being in some sort of lesbian relationship, but I don't think it works with any other female in the cast though unless she just winds up in a relationship with the twincest chicks.
They scare the hell out of me. I just can't wait for Heero, Setsuna, and Sasuke to all be in one SRW game......they've on,y ever had two so far.
 
They scare the hell out of me. I just can't wait for Heero, Setsuna, and Sasuke to all be in one SRW game......they've on,y ever had two so far.
I really do think Sosuke's the most normal out of those three. As fucked up as Sosuke can be sometimes he still has something resembling a sense of humor...even though FMP just played him straight in a comedic sense. He does seem to have better soldier instincts than Setsuna did.
 
Good leads.

Heero in episode 1-5. Unique, fu. And legit deadly. Actually felt like a child soldier should.
Judau - tons of charm and personality felt like a child that he is

Okay leads

Amuro - not bad but he is way overdone
Kira - same as above but a little worse.

Meh leads
Banagher
Garrod
Laura

Bad
Everyone else

Trump tier
Shinn
Flit

I had to shake my head at the idea of Heero and Judau being above Zeta and CCA Amuro
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I had to shake my head at the idea of Heero and Judau being above Zeta and CCA Amuro
Zera Amuro isn't a lead so I don't consider him in the running.

CCA Amuro is good but the fact that Heero enjoys killing sets him apart and Judau is a fucking boss, best overall lead in Gundam and has one of the top three suits in the ZZ.
 
Zera Amuro isn't a lead so I don't consider him in the running.

CCA Amuro is good but the fact that Heero enjoys killing sets him apart and Judau is a fucking boss, best overall lead in Gundam and has one of the top three suits in the ZZ.
Early Heero was borderline Yazan Gable. Would've loved a full show with that Heero as the lead.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Early Heero was borderline Yazan Gable. Would've loved a full show with that Heero as the lead.
It's why I said Heero episode 1-5. Heero after episode 22 and the new writing staff was pure trash and a waste of a lead who ended up being a shallow pacifist.

Sadist Heero who laughs as he kills people is great because we have nothing else like it.

A pacifist bitch who's wife ignores what he wants and gardens on Mars. What a drop from the start of Wing. Fuck you Sumizawa your original idea was better.
 
It's why I said Heero episode 1-5. Heero after episode 22 and the new writing staff was pure trash and a waste of a lead who ended up being a shallow pacifist.

Sadist Heero who laughs as he kills people is great because we have nothing else like it.
Yeah he was at least unique. I wonder what the show would've been like if he actually just killed Relena.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Yeah he was at least unique. I wonder what the show would've been like if he actually just killed Relena.
Well it's be great to see a weapon of war used like a weapon of war and the show not try to pussy foot around it for once and the killing seen from someone who craved it in gundam would be amazing.
 

Fjordson

Member
Man the G. Wing series and Endless Waltz were so hype when I was a kid. I still remember the Toonami promos with the Optimus Prime narration. "Suit up!". So bad ass.

Rewatching them years later was sort of a bummer since none of it really held up imo. Also blew my mind finding out about all the older UC shows / movies and how separate Wing was from that. Growing up in London / America Gundam started and ended with Wing.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Am I like the only American that fell in love with Gundam twice? First time as a pre-teen with the MSG movie and then again with Wing?
Nah I did as well.

Early teen with Wing and dropped Gundam with the rest and came back with SEED.

I just didn't start disliking Wing like many people have.
 
Man the G. Wing series and Endless Waltz were so hype when I was a kid. I still remember the Toonami promos with the Optimus Prime narration. "Suit up!". So bad ass.

Rewatching them years later was sort of a bummer since none of it really held up imo. Also blew my mind finding out about all the older UC shows / movies and how separate Wing was from that. Growing up in London / America Gundam started and ended with Wing.

G holds up fine simply because it was nonsense then and its nonsense now. It revels in its insanitiy and does not ask the viewer to believe it for one second. The others though... outside of Athrun `its weird that I`m seemingly the only normal mentaly stable protagonist in this franchise` Zala, ask the viewer to suspend a bit to much disbelief at times no matter how big a gundam fan we are.
 
G holds up fine simply because it was nonsense then and its nonsense now. It revels in its insanitiy and does not ask the viewer to believe it for one second. The others though... outside of Athrun `its weird that I`m seemingly the only normal mentaly stable protagonist in this franchise` Zala, ask the viewer to suspend a bit to much disbelief at times no matter how big a gundam fan we are.
That's why Athrun is the best Seed protagonist. Cagali was practically suicidal throwing herself at death cause she thought it was a game. Kira ended up getting hit with a fucking resurrection and it blew his fucking mind and Shinn was an asshole.
 
Am I like the only American that fell in love with Gundam twice? First time as a pre-teen with the MSG movie and then again with Wing?

Me. I watched Wing and MSG when they aired on Toonami. I didn't really understand either at the time, but thought they were smart and I wanted to seem smart, so I liked them.

Over a decade went by. Then I got Starfox 64 3DS. One of the bosses reminded me of Gundam, I think it was Sector Y. Particularly the catalpults. So I decided to revisit the first Gundam.

Fell in love. Ended up watching the entire franchise in the course of 8 months. Also got to watch Gundam AGE as it aired.

These days, 80% of the reason I'm a Gundam fan is because of UC. However, I do enjoy AUs to varying degrees. I'm at the very least willing to give them a chance. I thought IBO was pretty good, though it meandered a little too much.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I don't think I ever really dropped Gundam. I just kept watching more shows. I like UC and AU equally.
Well I hated MSG and think G is pure garbage with awful designs.

Sadly we didn't get ZZ back then or I may not have fallen out of love with Gundam as I love ZZ and Unicorn as much if not more so theno any AU series.

Age was the last Gundam I watched seriously though and can't bring myself to care the ugly art of G Reco and the nasty designs of IBO.

I did watch Build but it peasked with episode 15 and I lost interest by 20.
 
watched Gundam The Origin Episode 3

Even though I have the books seeing that AAA animation and OST
too good


was a shame though that
they needed to add that extra plot of 'Char''s friend finding out Char was Deku
 

RangerBAD

Member
watched Gundam The Origin Episode 3

Even though I have the books seeing that AAA animation and OST
too good


was a shame though that
they needed to add that extra plot of 'Char''s friend finding out Char was Deku

That episode makes Char look a lot more evil than portrayed in the original series. lol
 

kiunchbb

www.dictionary.com
Am I like the only American that fell in love with Gundam twice? First time as a pre-teen with the MSG movie and then again with Wing?

I stopped caring about Gundam after zz, never finished wing, and fall in love with the series again with seed. To be honest, nothing after that ever get as good as seed. Unicorn, gbf, orphan are pretty good, but they never recapture the seed feeling.
 
That episode makes Char look a lot more evil than portrayed in the original series. lol

lol indeed it does

but even the remade manga volumes makes him out to be some sinister dude

since the reboot it seems like everyone got some high doses of over the top emotions

I mean it is so amusing that both the volume (I believe) and this movie had that evil eye scene were Char's glare is so strong it can not only petrify someone but literally stun their nerves system and also make them fly meters away lol

but I kinda like it.... it feels whimsical like a Studio Ghibli character
 

Fjordson

Member
Am I like the only American that fell in love with Gundam twice? First time as a pre-teen with the MSG movie and then again with Wing?
That was me, just opposite order. Loved Wing and Endless Waltz as a kid, then later found out about all the UC material and ended up loving the original movie trilogy, Zeta, War in the Pocket, 08th MS Team, etc.

Sort of getting back into it recently again also. Loved Unicorn, enjoying Origin so far and I'm excited to see Thunderbolt.
 
I stopped caring about Gundam after zz, never finished wing, and fall in love with the series again with seed. To be honest, nothing after that ever get as good as seed. Unicorn, gbf, orphan are pretty good, but they never recapture the seed feeling.
What was it about Seed that grabbed so many people? I like it yeah, but it's not god tier to me. Charter designs aren't even iconic. I actually think the first 00 season is better than it...granted I've seen it less than Seed. I guess cause Seed is fun and easy enough to digest.
 
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