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The Gundam |OT2| Another 5 years of Gunpla, Origins, and GUNDAMUUUU!

NEO0MJ

Member
What was it about Seed that grabbed so many people? I like it yeah, but it's not god tier to me. Charter designs aren't even iconic. I actually think the first 00 season is better than it...granted I've seen it less than Seed. I guess cause Seed is fun and easy enough to digest.

It came at the right time during the hight of the anime boom and was set in an entirely new universe that still had some of the old storylines that caught people's imagination from the original MSG.
 
I'm mostly a fan of UC Gundam, and I lean towards early UC, but I do like some of the AU series. I need to rewatch Wing eventually, most of what I remember of it is Heero telling Relena he'll kill her a bunch of times and never doing it.

TM Revolution

*Invoke Intensifies*

If it has anything going for it, it's the music. Speaking of.

SEED wasn't that bad of a series. I'd rather just watch 0079, to be completely honest, but I do like the Strike a hell of a lot. The Flying Shoe is cool too.

Destiny, though. Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Seed's OST is pretty fucking amazing. Lots of tunes that fit the moment and it's easy to listen on its own. Heck even Destiny had a rock solid score.
 
Seed's OST is pretty fucking amazing. Lots of tunes that fit the moment and it's easy to listen on its own. Heck even Destiny had a rock solid score.
I'm not saying Seeds is not good. I just thought the rock, jazz, techno, orchestra fusion thing Wing had going for it was unique and had some personality...at least to me.
 

Menthuss

Member
I'm not saying Seeds is not good. I just thought the rock, jazz, techno, orchestra fusion thing Wing had going for it was unique and had some personality...at least to me.

You're allowed to have an opinion, you know :p. People can like different things.
Like how I feel the music is Seed and Destiny's only redeeming factor :>
 
The mechs are over designed and the characters are hideous.

I fucking hate this design.
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His face is so punchable, only eclipsed by that absurd rodent thing called "Shinn."
Everything about SEED is terrible. But I also think Wing is terrible. So ymmv
Wing is a product of it's time...I don't know what Seed's excuse is. Oh yeah...fucking Fukuda.
I do as well.

It's very close though but overall I love the beats and voice of the band more from Wing then I do TM Rev. Both super amazing though in my mind.
I honestly think some of the OP's for SEED are just over engineered and not in a cool 80's kind of way either. The BGM is fine though. The stuff for Wing just oozed swag in my opinion. It tried to be hip and gradiose and futuristic at times too Ohtani just did a really good job of fusing music styles.
 

kiunchbb

www.dictionary.com
What was it about Seed that grabbed so many people? I like it yeah, but it's not god tier to me. Charter designs aren't even iconic. I actually think the first 00 season is better than it...granted I've seen it less than Seed. I guess cause Seed is fun and easy enough to digest.

It is a super robot show disguise as Gundam. The same reason G Gundam is fun, just enjoy Jesus Kira decent from space to save everyone. It is impossible for Kira to lose(Kira only lose on purpose when he needs an upgrade), the thrill of the show is whether he can laserspam enemies fast enough before your favorite support character die.

Also the only Gundam show with ntr, and the waifu trading with best friend after Kira find out that's his sister.
 
It is a super robot show disguise as Gundam. The same reason G Gundam is fun, just enjoy Jesus Kira decent from space to save everyone. It is impossible for Kira to lose(Kira only lose on purpose when he needs an upgrade), the thrill of the show is whether he can laserspam enemies fast enough before your favorite support character die.

Also the only Gundam show with ntr, and the waifu trading with best friend after Kira find out that's his sister.
I still think Seed has the worst waifus. I prefer the UC shows and Wing in that department.
 
What was it about Seed that grabbed so many people? I like it yeah, but it's not god tier to me. Charter designs aren't even iconic. I actually think the first 00 season is better than it...granted I've seen it less than Seed. I guess cause Seed is fun and easy enough to digest.
Character designs in SEED are pretty damn iconic. So much so that almost any show that Hirai does character designs for inevitably gets called a SEED-clone at some point and dragged down, regardless of its own quality.
 
Join the church of Yamato
After Seed Destiny I joined the church of Athrun. "But Cagali is crying," Shut the fuck up Kira.
Character designs in SEED are pretty damn iconic. So much so that almost any show that Hirai does character designs for inevitably gets called a SEED-clone at some point and dragged down, regardless of its own quality.
But I like the character designs everybody hates. I actually like Natarle more than Murrue, but one's dead while the other is alive. Mu was cool though, stupid fucking name and all.
 

Ceallach

Smells like fresh rosebuds
Character designs in SEED are pretty damn iconic. So much so that almost any show that Hirai does character designs for inevitably gets called a SEED-clone at some point and dragged down, regardless of its own quality.
They aren't iconic. They are a joke. They are well known for being bad. And all of Hirais shows have the same issue.
 
Yeah i liked Athrun =)
I mean at least you can reason with Athrun, dude tries to make sense out of everything. Kira? Fuck that fool. Man just trots on in riding a fucking high horse with his judgmental boring ass waifu and just tells people what they should be doing and looks down on them when they don't do it.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I mean at least you can reason with Athrun, dude tries to make sense out of everything. Kira? Fuck that fool. Man just trots on in riding a fucking high horse with his judgmental boring ass waifu and just tells people what they should be doing and looks down on them when they don't do it.
Come on. He is just frustrated because he is pissed he can't hug and kiss his husband Athrun.

Poor guy is just letting out his pent up feelings :)
 
Come on. He is just frustrated because he is pissed he can't hug and kiss his husband Athrun.

Poor guy is just letting out his pent up feelings :)
Athrun is best husbando. All the girls want him...and so do the guys. Durandal tripped over himself to get him, Shinn had so many "notice me senpai" moments as well, nobody wants Kira though...except Athrun and Lacus and Athrun really wasn't into her either.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Athrun is best husbando. All the girls want him...and so do the guys. Durandal tripped over himself to get him, Shinn had so many "notice me senpai" moments as well, nobody wants Kira though...except Athrun and Lacus and Athrun really wasn't into her either.
Lol.

To be fair Kira and Athrun have more sexual tension then any other couple in Gundam regardless of status.
 
Lol.

To be fair Kira and Athrun have more sexual tension then any other couple in Gundam regardless of status.
No lies detected. Lacus was a beard. "No I'm not really gay for Athrun, see here's my singing girlfriend. Yo Athrun let's get some pizza...Lacus stay home and hang out with these Haro's."
 

Evilkazzz

Banned
Speaking of ugly shows, Seed is probably the ugliest Gundam series

I'm not sure I agree. Having gone and watched Seed for the first time a couple years ago (though I watched the "remaster"). I think Seed holds up rather well. I got used to Hirai face pretty quickly. Though I have not watched Seed Destiny to see if it got worse.

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If I'm being honest. I think IBO is one of the worst looking Gundam shows I've seen, though that may mostly be due to it's animation issues.
 

Meffer

Member
I'm not sure I agree. Having gone and watched Seed for the first time a couple years ago (though I watched the "remaster"). I think Seed holds up rather well. I got used to Hirai face pretty quickly. Though I have not watched Seed Destiny to see if it got worse.



If I'm being honest. I think IBO is one of the worst looking Gundam shows I've seen, though that may mostly be due to it's animation issues.

I like the designs in IBO, I have to get back to resuming it sometime.
 

Fjordson

Member
I like IBO in that regard also.

The recent show that looks incredible to me is Thunderbolt. Like goddamn. But considering it's only about 70 minutes long in total I guess it's not really fair to compare it to any ongoing series.
 
Quality Atra was the best thing to come out of IBO.

To be honest, I didn't really like anything out of IBO other than the Grazes. Which is good, I guess, given that there's like seven Graze kits now.
 

Evilkazzz

Banned
I feel like I'm on fucking bizarro world. SEED is inferior to IBO in every single way.

While I'm not much of a Seed advocate by any stretch I was pretty disappointed in IBO and consider it on the same level as Seed (at least in the first 25 eps we've seen of IBO so far).

They're both aimed at more adolescent viewers and treat the audience as such. Both attempt to be "edgy" without really going anywhere with it (Seeds microwave scene/constant shootings and IBO's psychopath mikazuki and child deaths). I may have liked IBO's characters more but it's pacing and suit variety was worse than Seed's in my opinion. It took entirely too long to figure out what Kudelia's plan was when she got to earth, and entirely too much time in space facilitating character development that hardly went anywhere in 25 episodes. A least Kira and the gang were in very different places from the start of Seed to the end of the first season. This is ignoring the problems I've had with IBO's animation/corner cutting.

It's a shame since I was hoping for IBO to be the next 00 in terms of the AU franchise and one I could take more seriously.
 

casiopao

Member
Seed is well just okay for me. I do like some its MS design there like Aegis, Raider, Calamity and Forbidden. The rest is just bland.T_T Destiny is bad. As bad as Age and 00 Movie. IBO is quite good as it is quite a change of pace where they focus on the character and family feeling of the crew which is quite different from other gundam where they had tons of politics going around.

Over all these years of watching Gundam, usually i would find some love on none Gundam MS there like Kaempfer, The O, Dozen Wulf, Quebelley, Kshatriya, Efreet Schneid.

But in Seed and sadly many of the newer gundam, the none gundam suits had never captured my heart here.T_T

Nowadays, it seems Gundam focus so much on making Gundam accessible for both sides here. The hero had Gundam, the enemy also had gundam, the side kick also had Gundam. Everyone had Gundam.T_T

C'mon Sunrise,make a gundam show where the foes don't use Gundam please. Sinanju, Zeong, The 0, Quebelley, and Sazabi all had great design there and they are also not Gundam.^_^
 

Paltheos

Member
Is it bad that I consider Lacus to be a half ass Sheryl Nome? Even Meer was a better idol than Lacus was.

They have different images. Lacus poised herself as one of those pure idol types. Sheryl plays up her sexuality.

As characters they're pretty different too. Sheryl is confident, proud, direct, dignified, mischievous, pro-active and as I mentioned before, sexual and very well aware of it. Lacus is... a little harder to get a handle on. At the beginning you could classify her as just altruistic but sheltered and innocent but the writers seemed to change her character midway into the first series into something of an emboldened leader who retained the politeness of her upbringing but somewhere along the way lost all her obliviousness of the world.

I do agree that Sheryl's way more interesting to watch though. She's a much more multi-faceted character, and I like her more too as she doesn't engage in the self-serving duplicity that Lacus is often accused of.

It's good looking but it's as stable as a hand grenade.

If by 'as stable as a hand grenade', you mean explosively awesome, then yes.
RG Justice is a stable kit. It's finnicky but once you get it where you want it's very stable.
 
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