FlutterPuffs
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I think we put Trico and Boy up there with Joel/Ellie, Drake/Sully, etc. as one of the best duos in games, right?
Probably the best. Some of the interactions and animations for this game is godlike.
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Probably the best. Some of the interactions and animations for this game is godlike.
wild wild rice
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Naughty Dog's stuff doesn't come close to what was accomplished here tbh. There is real interaction and experimentation going on here, not just background dialogue. This reminds me far more of what some Nintendo games (and others, obviously) do where you interact and experiment with creatures and their reactions in game as opposed to just passively absorbing a script, but obviously done on a far grander scale.
The gameplay here is actually used to elevate the narrative and relationship, as opposed to forcing the gameplay to be subverted in order to tell your story. The interactions with Trico, wonky camera and all, ironically produce the level of immersion and emotional attachment that Naughty Dog all but puts a strangle hold on the player in an attempt to accomplish.
Until more devs become capable of using the medium to actually tell stories through gameplay, we're just going to see poor digital imitations of shallow Hollywood movies or cute sentimental memoir-ish indie games. Last Guardian is probably the most significant step toward "games as art" or emotional interactive experiences...ever, possibly.
The gameplay here is actually used to elevate the narrative and relationship, as opposed to forcing the gameplay to be subverted in order to tell your story. The interactions with Trico, wonky camera and all, ironically produce the level of immersion and emotional attachment that Naughty Dog all but puts a strangle hold on the player in an attempt to accomplish.
Until more devs become capable of using the medium to actually tell stories through gameplay, we're just going to see poor digital imitations of shallow Hollywood movies or cute sentimental memoir-ish indie games. Last Guardian is probably the most significant step toward "games as art" or emotional interactive experiences...ever, possibly.
FlutterPuffs
Member
SOTC ran in pretty horrendous framerate for the PS2 throughout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_GLmE7ZBPE
Not that I'm defending TLG on this matter though, just that SOTC's is mostly sub 25 fps.
I think we put Trico and Boy up there with Joel/Ellie, Drake/Sully, etc. as one of the best duos in games, right?
How can you make the boy sit on the floor?
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
GOTY
Click and hold L3 or R3.
More_Badass
Member
I was speaking more about the characterization and development of their relationship narrative-wise, rather than just the technical aspect of it. Joel and Ellie was my favorite before, but this game got me emotionally invested in the characters in a way that I hadn't experienced since then.
Oh wow can you do that on Trico's head?
MrCookiepants
Member
Just finished it.
Amazing. One of the best games ever.
Amazing. One of the best games ever.
Cave Johnson
Member
Thanks to the power of current gen we get to see Ueda creating a dense world. I hope it doesn't end with this.
I think we put Trico and Boy up there with Joel/Ellie, Drake/Sully, etc. as one of the best duos in games, right?
I would say the best.
More_Badass
Member
Oh shit...was browsing the manual and you're not defenseless against armor. You can pull off their heads with circle
brandonh83
Banned
This game also has pacing and doesn't have a story that has no idea what it's trying to be.
Cave Johnson
Member
Good thing the special edition has a downloadable soundtrack.
I think you can. I seem to recall sitting on his back last night and it doesn't seem context or location sensitive.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Yeah and it's an achievement. Never did manage to get even one though.
There's even one for when you hang on the back of an armored soldier for 30 seconds.
brandonh83
Banned
Whaaaa
Man it does a good job of making you feel like you're hopeless with the tension and everything. I didn't even think about trying to be offensive.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Where can I buy though c:
Wait really? I know you can sometimes shove them off the edges of cliffs/platforms but didn't realize you could actually hurt them as the boy. I do believe I saw a button prompt for "grab" popping up when I was around them but the were distracted fighting Trico. Do you have to do this from behind because if you do anything in front of them they will grab you?
mentallyinept
Banned
Yeah, they have to be on the ground though so it's really only possible if Trico knocks them down and gets distracted by another enemy before he finishes the job.
It's on psn I think. I haven't been able to boot up the PS4 yet so I am just listening on YouTube. It's so great.
One of my favorite moments is when one of the enemies goes behind Trico to pick up a spear and then I roll into him to make him unbalanced and loss the spear. trico then turns around and is like: thanks for watching my back, now leave the rest to me "SMASH"
It felt so good.
I knew about that from one of the early TLG trailers on PS3 and it worked after I tried it and couldn't be happier.
It felt so good.
I knew about that from one of the early TLG trailers on PS3 and it worked after I tried it and couldn't be happier.
Ah, okay. That's why it never worked for me after noticing that in the digital manual.
More_Badass
Member
A little clip from the first area of the game. I love the sound design for Trico. She can be cute, but other times...
https://www.facebook.com/christian.valentin.161/videos/vb.100000256420601/1336772426341292/
https://www.facebook.com/christian.valentin.161/videos/vb.100000256420601/1336772426341292/
She? Is that canon?
wild wild rice
Member
Trophies refer to it as male.
Haven't finished the game yet so there may be something I don't know.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Its a slip on cover I got at Shopto, I really like it.
piccio_ssl
Member
finished
this is the greatest game ever made i'm telling ya, all this waiting was soooo worth it, every single day
this is the greatest game ever made i'm telling ya, all this waiting was soooo worth it, every single day
More_Badass
Member
Oh, I've seen posters use both, so I'm not sure myself
nemisis0
Member
was the soundtrack a voucher or actual disc, bought the collectors from them so wondering thanks
TimeEffect
Member
I wonder how many in the media know how to command trico?
There are seemingly 5 controls. Holding r1 + face button allows you to:
-tell trico to jump
-tell trico to stay
-tell trico to go a certain direction (pushing analog only)
Don't know the other two just yet, don't tell me
This isn't communicated (yet?) but if missed, I imagine it leads to a lot of frustration?
And boy do I love this kid. He's adorable, he animates great, and I love his voice lines
The camera is definitely annoying. It doesn't feel slow as much as it feels there is input lag. But it's manageable knowing there is a dedicated "look are trico" button
I have no issues with the controls but do feel they could have utilized more of the dual shock instead of cramming everything to a few buttons
Definitely loving the game.
There are seemingly 5 controls. Holding r1 + face button allows you to:
-tell trico to jump
-tell trico to stay
-tell trico to go a certain direction (pushing analog only)
Don't know the other two just yet, don't tell me
This isn't communicated (yet?) but if missed, I imagine it leads to a lot of frustration?
And boy do I love this kid. He's adorable, he animates great, and I love his voice lines
The camera is definitely annoying. It doesn't feel slow as much as it feels there is input lag. But it's manageable knowing there is a dedicated "look are trico" button
I have no issues with the controls but do feel they could have utilized more of the dual shock instead of cramming everything to a few buttons
Definitely loving the game.
It says what they all do in the digital manual if you want clarification on any of the commands.
Handy Fake
Member
Love reading through this.
I get the impression that people who own cats or dogs might have more of an understanding of how to get the feathery little swine to do what you want. I like that.
I get the impression that people who own cats or dogs might have more of an understanding of how to get the feathery little swine to do what you want. I like that.
wild wild rice
Member
This is good to know in case I get frustrated. But part of my enjoyment of the game so far has been experimenting with commands.
Q&A: Weaving together The Last Guardian's emotional score
I didn't see this article posted yet but its decent in length with a lot of info on scoring The last Guardian.
I didn't see this article posted yet but its decent in length with a lot of info on scoring The last Guardian.
wild wild rice
Member
I've had dogs my whole life and it really is remarkable how well thought out Trico's reactions and interactions are. Tons of little details and things to miss if you're not looking and/or experimenting with stuff, very reminiscent of stuff my dogs have done.
If you're the type who loves observing animals, you're gonna love this game.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Anyone else get the collectors edition from Amazon to find a big ass dent in your nice shiny steelbook?
I dunno what to do, not sure if they can replace it
I dunno what to do, not sure if they can replace it
Jonneh3003
Banned
I was expecting a disc but they just emailed me with a download code. To be fair I don't think they ever stated it was physical, just wishful thinking.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
I suspect I'm getting close to the end and it just keeps getting better. What an amazing piece of craftsmanship this title is, even with all of the technical quirks. I haven't read any of the reviews at all but I'm willing to bet the negative ones will remind me a lot of negative reviews of The Witness.
Coincidentally, both rank among my favorite games.
Coincidentally, both rank among my favorite games.
TimeEffect
Member
Ahh. But again, I wonder how many read it and if it's the source of complaints for not being able to command trico
Omg I love how trico quizzically looks at things
The speed run. I did it with ICO but with Trico's behavior, I don't know if I have the patience for it with this game, lol.
TimeEffect
Member
Omg everytime I think I'm off on my own, trico somehow finds a way to follow me 😆😆
ITS SO CUTE
ITS SO CUTE
GIANKRATOS
Member
Sigh... I will not be able to buy the game for a while... Maybe it's better if i stay out of this thread
Unfortunately the collector's edition ost you get from psn is 20 mins aswell.