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The Last of Us |OT| It Cant Be For Nothing (Spoilers)
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Dance Inferno
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I've been playing the game with these:
The sound and music in this game is phenomenal.
More_Badass
Member
Winter spoilers...
Well damn...that was the most scripted but totally felt unscripted moment I ever played in a game
That was just so perfectly crafted and scripted, that I never felt guided or led to a particular area. Very impressive. And really that whole part felt more authentic and realistic and tense than Tomb Raider ever did
Well damn...that was the most scripted but totally felt unscripted moment I ever played in a game
Playing as Ellie, hunting the deer. At first I thought it would be scripted and I'd kill with a shot and there'd be a cutscene or something. Then I hit it and it bolted. Started following the blood trail.
Then I missed the next few. Now I'm thinking, cool, ok...seems unscripted, pretty fun, big open area
Then I go a little bit more and see the building and where the deer goes. Then the cutscene plays. And I realize that whole encounter was scripted to get you to that area.
Then I missed the next few. Now I'm thinking, cool, ok...seems unscripted, pretty fun, big open area
Then I go a little bit more and see the building and where the deer goes. Then the cutscene plays. And I realize that whole encounter was scripted to get you to that area.
That was just so perfectly crafted and scripted, that I never felt guided or led to a particular area. Very impressive. And really that whole part felt more authentic and realistic and tense than Tomb Raider ever did
I remember this part, it gets crazy and I cleared the area with almost nothing left. But yes,
nail bombs and molotovs at mid phase, throwing them at the clickers should do
It took me 18:46 to get through the game. I did quite a good bit of exploring and found the majority of collectibles but didn't get everything by any means.
Made it to
this weekend. Holy shit this game is just fantastic. Some of the graphics, even in the cutscenes, are out of this world. When they
Pittsburgh, it seemed really close to reality.
Anyway, my only major gripe with the game is the forced combat sections. Not the ones where you can stealthily take out everyone, but the ones when the enemy is already in alert mode and you can't fist-fight your way out of it. I guess I understand that the devs want you to use your resources, not just hoard, but sometimes it's annoying. The biggest offender so far was
Luckily I had been hoarding, but still, I thought I was gonna run out at some point.
Other than that though...wow. Just a simply amazing game.
Winter
drive by the buildings on the way into
Anyway, my only major gripe with the game is the forced combat sections. Not the ones where you can stealthily take out everyone, but the ones when the enemy is already in alert mode and you can't fist-fight your way out of it. I guess I understand that the devs want you to use your resources, not just hoard, but sometimes it's annoying. The biggest offender so far was
the part where you go through the sewers, then was through a ton that has damn near ZERO ammo, then enter the sniper firefight.
Other than that though...wow. Just a simply amazing game.
Net_Wrecker
Member
WAT
The initial campaign load? Mine isn't 6 minutes, but it definitely gets into the 2.5 to 3 minute range. It's takes like 45 seconds for the progress percentage to even show up.
I like nail bombs to start on the door ways, buys a bit of extra time and thins out the first wave enough to make melee on at least one enemy viable, but yes, after that mixing guns and molotovs to kill enemies (saving molotovs and shotgun/shorty primarily for clickers unless you have a nice stock of each) is the way to survive.
It is definitely a "you will survive, but kiss your nicely loaded pack goodbye" moment.
It is definitely a "you will survive, but kiss your nicely loaded pack goodbye" moment.
I felt like that was kind of the point to that part of the game. Up to the
sewers you were just getting comfortable travelling with Henry and Sam, when you meet them you do a lot of walk and talk through buildings that gets you pretty geared up, and exiting Pittsburgh doesn't use resources as much as you just run from the .50 cal. So then you get into the sewers and start cleaning up on this former safe house, really getting stocked up. It makes you feel like your newly doubled team size is pretty bad ass. That's when they flip the page on you and hammer you hard for getting a feeling of confidence and ease by first splitting you up, then draining your resources in a forced encounter when they put you back together.
To me the entire point to the combat system is forcing you out of your comfort zone. most games like this let you comfortably live on just one or two weapons. Hell, many now only let you carry two weapons at a time. The Last of Us lets you carry every weapon and have ammo for every weapon, but continues to teach you the penalties for being overly specialized in your use of them. My mindset was always "if it's at full ammo it gets used before any gun that isn't" because of this, and the same with bombs/molotovs/shivs/etc.. If I had full mats for a certain craft item that item was killing the next enemy I needed removed, no matter how I had to work the situation to make that happen. Hell, there were points where I intentionally ran into melee combat knowing it would cost me health simply because I just passed rags + alcohol and had full medkits and materials. Then after killing the enemies I healed, crafted more medkits, and backtracked for the materials.
To me the entire point to the combat system is forcing you out of your comfort zone. most games like this let you comfortably live on just one or two weapons. Hell, many now only let you carry two weapons at a time. The Last of Us lets you carry every weapon and have ammo for every weapon, but continues to teach you the penalties for being overly specialized in your use of them. My mindset was always "if it's at full ammo it gets used before any gun that isn't" because of this, and the same with bombs/molotovs/shivs/etc.. If I had full mats for a certain craft item that item was killing the next enemy I needed removed, no matter how I had to work the situation to make that happen. Hell, there were points where I intentionally ran into melee combat knowing it would cost me health simply because I just passed rags + alcohol and had full medkits and materials. Then after killing the enemies I healed, crafted more medkits, and backtracked for the materials.
oldschoolpinball
Member
The story in this game is just god damn phenomenal and this is from someone who finds story lines to be seriously lacking in gaming.naughty dog should really be proud of themselves for what they have created and should win each and every award associated with emotion for a game this year
Metalmurphy
Member
Are we talking about the creepers? Cause their had turns around like crazy and that matters. It's never safe with those guys. Other than that, and other enemies spotting you while you are sneaking up on someone else, I never had it happen either.
Random tip regarding the autosave system I have been using:
This works great and has saved me much pain so far (56% ish into the game).
- Make 2 manual saves. Keep a "backup" save in slot 1 that you never actually load and play from. Then instantly keep another save of the same place in slot 2, and make sure to play from this one by default.
- Now if you fuck things up and the game autosaves your progress (in slot 2 becuase that is the one you last saved/loaded), you can "reset" back to your last manual unaffected "backup" save (in slot 1) and continue onward.
This works great and has saved me much pain so far (56% ish into the game).
Yes. This is a bit of the smoke and mirrors that was poorly executed. I experienced 3 human encounters where stealth killing everyone in the area and then looking around for supplies leads to discovering "spawn points" where the enemy just stands there, looking forward, gun pointed (like spawning in Counter Strike). These dudes weren't there before/during the initial encounter, so they obviously spawned after you killed the first batch. In Uncharted, the second wave of enemies usually flow out of a door or over a high wall, while in TLoU a few encounters just have the enemy spawn at a corner.
Also, a similar nitpick is in the E3 demo area. If you stealth kill everyone but the last guy on a floor (e.g. the last guy is patrolling between two rooms), and you alert this last guy during close quarters in one room, another guy will spawn immediately in the next room. The new guy will come in running in an attempt to melee you. I understand the design decision behind it, but this wouldn't be too bad if you hadn't just checked the nearby area and knew that there was no one but that one guy left.
Every load time is super fast for me. Well not DS flash cart fast, but certainly super fast compared to what some guys are reporting here.
Guards are alerted if they find a dead body and then go looking for you. When I hid the bodies (carry them before killing) to safe areas, this didnt happen to me either. Guess its easy to miss that point and probably the biggest reason for the confusion people are experiencing with this.
I think you are misunderstanding. It's when you sneak up behind someone, they suddenly turn around in an alerted state like they saw you despite only being halfway through their patrol route.
Has been mentioned several times in this thread and I know a few people know what I mean;
Ah, well that happens because the guards are hearing you I guess. They can also hear you sneaking if you are too close and not sneaking slower than the "fastest" sneaking speed. Additionally, they seem to get aware of you if you stand too long too close to them or follow them closely for too long.
That particular problem didnt happen to me anymore once I started sneaking slower sometimes at least.
No, it happens because it's a bug. Not everything in this game has an explanation.
It's not like I run up to them, knocking over bottles and then start wondering why they saw me.
Not saying it cant be a bug, but as far as I am concerned there very well could be some things people are missing, as in dont stand too close to someone without grabbing them for a long time and dont sneak too fast. The game even explains it to you that sneaking fast might still get you heard (in the case of clickers), so these are some possible explanations that might apply here as well.
Could be a bug though as you said, but since I got aware of this issue and play in accordance with my findings and theories about it, it didnt happen to me anymore *shrug*. Not everything in this game has to be a bug, maybe its just poorly explained to the player.
KnockOneOff
Banned
I'm actually finding this sold out everywhere!
I already know what alerts them. I don't sneak too fast, I don't sit behind them for an hour hoping they won't spot me. I'm doing the exact same move on 20 enemies but on the 21st enemy I can sneak up behind me as he's walking away and BAM alert. There's NOTHING that should alert him at that point and it's another element to make 'stealth' frustrating.
And equally, not everything should be defended and have an explanation. The game is not perfect, it has bugs.
You don't really have to think about the arc. A fuzzy green dot appears at the end of the arc and gets bigger, which let's you know if it'll hit a subject. You mostly have to lead a moving target.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
I've been playing the game with these:
The sound and music in this game is phenomenal.
Yeah, I am playing with these
Wouldn't play it any other way.
The sound design in this game is unbelievable, and essential to immersion.
It also "could" be a feature to make areas a bit less predictable and to allow for some unexpected things to happen. Like say a 3% chance that a guard notices you creeping up on him, forcing you into a fire fight.
It would be a bit annoying, but since they obviously planned some areas to start you into fire fights, it wouldnt be all that far fetched for them to include something like that.
Still wouldnt be a bug then
As I said, it COULD be a bug, but it doesnt need to be. There is a chance that something is at work here that we dont know yet, and there is also the chance that its actually a planned feature.Tell me about it. I've searched for some piece of paper in that area but haven't found anything... I have some suspicion where it might be, but I will wait to get there again in NG+.
Which would be atrociously bad game design for a game like this. Barely any ammunition, limited health and medkits and one alert triggers EVERYONE in the area - I really doubt ND would be that obtuse. I'll say it's a bug in many of my cases.
Its the only weapon with higher damage if shot from a stealth position, leading to many one shot kills, especially when hitting the heads.
One shot except for bloaters and some armored military guys.
dark_prinny
Banned
Should probably start using it more then. I just hate bows in games and tend to not use them, but if it helps me.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
Ah, thanks. Dunno how I missed that.
Headshots can usually take out enemies in a single hit. Never tried with a clicker though but works with runners and humans.
I don't think it's a guaranteed 1:1 as I've used more than one arrow to kill someone before, but when stealth the one shot kill window seems pretty large. I've hit enemies in the upper chest, neck, and head for one shot kills. I started out always aiming for the skull but after a bit of practice I ended up aiming for more like the collar bone to neck area, seemed to be the sweet spot for me.
Its probably my favorite weapon in the game. So good. Very tactile feel to shooting it, chance to recover your arrows, and once you level it up at a work bench it's got some damn nice range.
They will one shot a clicker in the head BTW, I've done it quite a bit.
Its my favourite weapon since it has high damage while stealthing, makes no noise and has retrievable ammunition (50% or something).
It's lots of fun. I used it quite a bit whenever I panicked trying to stealth past the infected. There's also a chance (dice roll?) you can recover the arrow.
you monster!
the bow is my most beloved weapon for stealth. Well, not like there's another better choice imo.
It frustrates me to recover back the arrows as sometimes they break and sometimes they don't, and you won't really know it until you go wiggle the corpse all over until the indicator pops up that you can grab it back.
It frustrates me to recover back the arrows as sometimes they break and sometimes they don't, and you won't really know it until you go wiggle the corpse all over until the indicator pops up that you can grab it back.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Just checking in to say that this game is truly amazing on all fronts...I cant stop playing...
Also...it needs to be said a thousand times - the feel and sounds of the guns is GOD TIER!
Also...it needs to be said a thousand times - the feel and sounds of the guns is GOD TIER!
Really enjoying this game on Hard with the hearing function disabled. The encounters are so friggin intense. The times that I have died I have not felt frustrated by the game because in almost all cases I should have planned a better strategy.
I am not happy with how long the initial load times are though. I guess this is the trade-off for a virtually seamless world with no loading.
I am not happy with how long the initial load times are though. I guess this is the trade-off for a virtually seamless world with no loading.
Might be a bit of a random chance for damage. I know I stealth 1 hit killed clickers in the head sometimes with it.
Okay, I bought the OST on amazon and am having trouble sorting through it since it seems like it's just minor variations of the main themes and battle themes alternating or something. Can anyone else with the ost please list which of the tracks are explicitly gameplay (battle/sneaking/etc) themes? I'm looking for one in particular that I really liked, but having trouble finding it in the ost due to the way it's set up.
Every headshot with the bow I ever fired at a non-agro'd clicker was always a OHKO. Body shots just seemed to piss them off >.>
Every headshot with the bow I ever fired at a non-agro'd clicker was always a OHKO. Body shots just seemed to piss them off >.>