coughlanio
Member
The Last of Us was great on PS3 at 30FPS.
The Last of Us will be great on PS4 regardless of the frame rate.
The Last of Us will be great on PS4 regardless of the frame rate.
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'The Last of Us: Remastered' coming to PS4, July 2014, [1080p, targeting 60 fps]
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EmptySpace
Banned
how is that salt when it is the truth? ai on the game was lacking compared to what they have touted. so easy to fool, so easy to bypass, so easy to take down, so predictable.
whenever they hear a bottle break into pieces, they walk to the area and just stand there and stare at it. no one even tried sneaking up or taking cover to see where the sound came from. they all just casually walked and stood there.
black_spear
Neo Member
Anyone thinks this game is worth for $60?
To recap:
Last-gen: Remaster titles came with two or three games at half-price in the same box. These remaster product included games appeared time ago in the market.
Next-gen: Remaster titles include just one game at full price. These collections include games that have reached the shelves one year ago as much.
We are becoming insane. What’s next?
To recap:
Last-gen: Remaster titles came with two or three games at half-price in the same box. These remaster product included games appeared time ago in the market.
Next-gen: Remaster titles include just one game at full price. These collections include games that have reached the shelves one year ago as much.
We are becoming insane. What’s next?
plumpblumpkin
Member
My god I can't tell you how happy I am that I waited to play this game..
Now I have a real reason to buy a PS4
Now I have a real reason to buy a PS4
anexanhume
Member
This is effectively a GOTY edition with all DLC releasing one year after the original game. That's commonly $60 all the time. You're talking about re-releases of 4/5 year old games with no DLC added (because it didn't exist at the time).
What do you mean?
EmptySpace
Banned
makes little sense? it all depends upon the improvements they've made on a 10-month-old game. would prettier graphics and better framerate justify full price? no.
think: they made tlou for 3 years and all the work they've done from optimising the engine, programming, doing concept art, qa, mo-cap, gameplay design, etc. all those work were worth $60 a unit.
now, a remaster which obviously won't even come close to the original effort, will also be $60 a unit.
of course, if you're a first-time buyer, you're paying for what you've missed out on. too bad not everyone is a first-time buyer but that's their intended audience: the 360 peeps who never had a ps3.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
The concept of DLC i think.
jediyoshi
Member
Is that how recaps work? Just looks like a convenient disregarding of the actual prices involved between the titles involved in bundled remasters and what TLOU Remastered actually includes. Are you also upset that TLOU still retails for full price as well? Or is the difference between $60 to $80 negligible enough to ignore?
The TLoU was hands down one of my most anticipated games of all time, and even though I thought it was amazing it was still hard for me to enjoy the game to its fullest because of its awful FPS. The PS4 version will finally remedy that one and only glaring problem I ever had with the game, everything else is just icing on the cake.
Dont buy it. Simple.
There are tons of players who have not played the game yet. That is what this is aimed at.
While the ai is far from perfect the game is not as easy as you are claiming it is
Canis lupus
Member
People that can't justify $60, just imagine this:
TLOU: $40
Left Behind $15
All DLC: $5
TLOU: $40
Left Behind $15
All DLC: $5
Or just wait two weeks and it'll be $45 on amazon
...is all the "concept art, qa, mo-cap, (...)" somehow removed from the PS4 version?
Like I said 20 pages ago, you are applying the awful Marxist definition of "value" which is based on input costs, rather than the meeting of supply and demand. It has been thoroughly and completely rejected empirically for decades.
ultratruman
Banned
Great game, but I don't intend on replaying it.
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Where does it retail for $60? It's $30 on Amazon.
You will be able to buy it digitally. Supply is infinite.
Freeman
Banned
Yes, it does make little sense if you are complaining its not worth what they are asking for yet you don't know how much it should cost.
*You started by answering the question I made to another user, if I'm not mistaken, so I'm just assuming you are not satisfied with the price.
There is some jank here and there but I thought overall it was pretty decent not shit or godly
To recap:
This game: You are paying $60 for a game that you already know the quality of, with a lengthy SP experience, unique MP, and all DLC included.
New game: You are paying $60 for a game that you don't know the quality of (because the reviews are embargoed), with a unknown amount of content and no DLC included.
See how this works? For those that have not played this game, this is a great deal. For those that have played the game, they must ask themselves whether it's worth the money. If it's not, they don't have to buy it for that price. It's pretty simple.
Storm Chamber
Banned
Once was enough, thank you.
Freeman
Banned
It was $40 just hours ago, without the DLCs.
Jesus, they will charge what the market will bear and people who have never played the game before or who want a next gen upgrade will pay for it. All of you naysayers aren't the arbiter of fair market value for everyone.
If someone releases a 4K complete rescan and remaster of my favorite movie I'm going to buy it, and if it's a classic or very popular title I'm going to pay full price because it's going to be a massive upgrade. I don't care that I've seen the movie before, I want the best version and will pay for it.
Same thing with games like this, I don't care if I've played before. If I want to enjoy it again and if the upgrade is worth it to me, I'll buy because I love the game. It's not only brand new release titles that are worth full price, there is plenty of demand for upgrading the classics too.
Telling the developer that it's not worth the price is silly when it was worth full price for an inferior version.
If someone releases a 4K complete rescan and remaster of my favorite movie I'm going to buy it, and if it's a classic or very popular title I'm going to pay full price because it's going to be a massive upgrade. I don't care that I've seen the movie before, I want the best version and will pay for it.
Same thing with games like this, I don't care if I've played before. If I want to enjoy it again and if the upgrade is worth it to me, I'll buy because I love the game. It's not only brand new release titles that are worth full price, there is plenty of demand for upgrading the classics too.
Telling the developer that it's not worth the price is silly when it was worth full price for an inferior version.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Armed guards were behind you? I'm not sure I understand, the final levels you pretty much have to take out the armed guards room by room. Those were amongst the best combat scenarios in the game. Ill never understand people who found the AI bad. You found it bad because you got killed a lot?
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
First major leak from Sony this generation - and it was from SCE Turkey or wherever. I'm pretty certain this was supposed to be a nice E3 surprise on their part. I look forward to more leaks about unreleased Sony games. They have a lot of catching up to do with leak champions like Ubisoft and Xbox.
ProfessorMoran
Member
Would the saves and trophies carry over? I don't want to re-earn them.
EmptySpace
Banned
it was easy. i never even had the chance to fully enjoy the weapons because i never had a time where i lacked ammo or supplies so so much for the survival/desperate feeling in gameplay. by the time i got to the end, i never even used the flamethrower because i was just loaded. i killed bloaters with 2 molotovs. the area where it had 2 bloaters and 1 clicker i just had to use 2 molotovs for the aoe damage. most times i felt invincible. if you can do headshots, the 9mm pistol was enough to take humans out. bow was the most useful. silent and arrow has chance to be reused. once you got 9 arrows at your disposal you're good to go for humans, runners, and clickers.
...price is a choice variable of the seller here. The quantity is irrelevant for the discussion, obviously.
This does not address the point in any way.
EmptySpace
Banned
the part where joel was carrying ellie out of the hospital. the last gameplay segment. stopped and turned around and the guards were literally just behind me talking to the radio with each other trying to find me. even then, that chapter of taking out guards room by room was easy. i never even had to kill anyone until the very last room right before finding ellie, which was too bad since they force you to take out all the guards in that room.
way to jump conclusions. so the only time someone can find the ai bad in tlou was if they got killed alot?
Betta Lines
Member
Presumably you are referring to the hardest difficulty. If so, congratulations, you are really good at games.
The Outsider
Member
Day one double dip for me. Last of Us was fantastic, can't wait to experience it again with some nifty graphical upgrades.
Does June sound like a realistic release month or do you guys think we're looking at a later release?
Does June sound like a realistic release month or do you guys think we're looking at a later release?
Well, I always said that I wasn't going to buy a PS4 until a worthy exclusive dropped. Ironic that it's a remaster of a previous-gen game, but I never bought it on the PS3, so... fine, take my $460 dollars.
That said, and from the perspective of a mostly PC gamer, if I HAD bought the PS3 version, I'd be more than a little miffed at being charged a full $60 for a game I bought not even a year ago. That'd be like charging $60 for the DC of DX:HR. I'm surprised they're not offering some sort of HD upgrade path.
That said, and from the perspective of a mostly PC gamer, if I HAD bought the PS3 version, I'd be more than a little miffed at being charged a full $60 for a game I bought not even a year ago. That'd be like charging $60 for the DC of DX:HR. I'm surprised they're not offering some sort of HD upgrade path.
Freeman
Banned
People look for a way to bash the game, IA is the chink in the armor, even if its on par o better than most games on last gen(likely games those people complaining like).
Its hard to make an argument against story, animation, art, graphics, music, sound, acting, gameplay, ui, presentation and so on.
black_spear
Neo Member
Following your line of reasoning:
- A new game should cost less than a Platinum game, because when the game appeared as a retail game in the market for the first time, you don’t know anything about its quality. Therefore, if that game was Superb, the company could keep the price when they are going to commercialize again as Platinum/Greatest Hits/GOTY, because this quality deserves to keep the price.
I have dramatized your argument, but in some manner it sounds like that.
Sony is taking advantage of the lack of catalogue for PS4 with this remaster version of The Last of Us. Moreover, Square-Enix proved that the audience was able to buy a remaster game before at full price (Tomb Raider).
I mean, one upgraded version of one game it does not deserved to purchase again at full price. IMO.
CurlySaysX
Banned
Ps3 preorder cancelled.
Fbh
Member
I'm just pointing out that Tomb Raider did not run at 60 fps on Ps4 but was instead "targeting 60 fps". Just like the TLOU Ps4 version (It's the developer saying they are targeting 60 fps, not me. Targeting 60 fps is not the same as saying the game runs at 60 fps)
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
Then why bring it up?
Your point is that no matter what Sony charges for this game, there will be a market for it. The higher the price, the smaller that market. Sony believes $60 will bring them the most profit, and then they can drop it to get the people who waited. Right?
It's like the Phantom Pain. They will charge what they can get away with.
MrCookiepants
Member
The PS3 version is not exactly in bargain bins. Don't know why you guys were expecting budget price point. Stop being cheap.
Storm Chamber
Banned
You messed up by saying this for a game that's
I bring it up because people keep making the fundamental mistake of trying to attribute universal, unique "value" to products based on the production costs.
It's complete nonsense.
Wow, you should have let it go but you didn't. So you're really going to go through and defend your broken logic and reasoning?
And:
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Glad I held off playing it on the PS3 - even though I purchased it
jediyoshi
Member
Some mom and pop shops named GameStop and Best Buy. Hell, the price on Amazon isn't even from Amazon directly, which is a bit of a stretch to classify as 'retail'.