Glad I held off playing it on the PS3 - even though I purchased it
This shit makes zero sense
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'The Last of Us: Remastered' coming to PS4, July 2014, [1080p, targeting 60 fps]
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This shit makes zero sense
Flower's PS3/Vita/PS4 releases were very wide apart. I can appreciate the upgrade pricing is different, but similar enough for someone to be hopeful/disappointed. That's all.
bananafactory
Banned
This thread is getting a bit hostile. Need some Druckmann hugs to make it all better.
Are you comparing this to say GOW HD Collection? When they came out, they were like 4 years old. (GOW1 came out in 2005)
No one is gonna pay $60 for a 4 year old port of a PS2 era game so they had to include both titles in there.
Also just the Season Pass for TLoU on PS3 is $20. Im not gonna pay for it. So its included in the new PS4 package. Win win for Sony and me. I get to play a superior version plus all the content I never got to play. Plus now say down the line the PS4 version goes on sale? Guess what you are getting a slicker deal. Anyways not gonna explain myself against your poor argument any more as its not the same thing.
bigboss370
Member
I'm a little obsessed about it. lol
most impressive
ah thank you so much, was just about to ask for this!
wish there was a version that didn't cut off the bottom of the cover (at the guns) though
ultratruman
Banned
I don't know if I want a 'Druckmann Hug'.
LOL!!!!
most impressive
Thank ya kind sir. ^_^
bigboss370
Member
Certainly agree. Just saying it's enough to be disappointed without accusations of entitlement. That's all.
And to those saying they're different games, come on. If they just said Flower - PS4 Version, the cross buy goes away?
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I was on my phone so I didn't notice that $30 price wasn't from Amazon directly.
Amazon is selling it for $40, btw.
I pre ordered it the very day it was announced.
thelastword
Banned
I'm sure the devs commented on making adjustments to the Ai, because it would be too frustrating otherwise. As it is, TLOU is a very tense game even on normal difficulty, to make the Ai even tougher overall would have been an exercise in frustration for many. You don't make a game to cater to the 5 persons who can clear it on "You won't survive-pull your hair out and die...ahhhhh!..difficulty".
Pop
Member
Glad I held off playing it on the PS3 - even though I purchased it
Why do people purchase games to not play them. Blows my mind and makes absolutely no sense.
jadedm17
Member
Dont buy it. Simple.
Also aimed at converts who can't even watch Netflix on their XBox 360 anymore, like me.
Storm Chamber
Banned
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I understand the price complaints but that doesn't put me off.
If it was any other game, yeah maybe. But because it's TLOU with better textures and the promise of 60fps, it is too much to resist. Add to that that Nughty Dog themselves are handling the PS4 port and it's a pretty awesome deal imo, especially for people that had only 360s last gen.
If it was any other game, yeah maybe. But because it's TLOU with better textures and the promise of 60fps, it is too much to resist. Add to that that Nughty Dog themselves are handling the PS4 port and it's a pretty awesome deal imo, especially for people that had only 360s last gen.
Night Hunter
Banned
Not to get in the middle of an argument here, but in what way is this a marxist definition, when it was used long before (from the time of Thomas Aquinus if I remember correctly) and also by the likes of Adam Smith, as supply and demand is the product of neoclassical economical theory.
And it doesn't even matter.
I would rather them lock it at 30fps and focus on adding more graphical bells and whistles.
The 30 vs. 60 wars are starting to get extremely old.
In a way, yes. Every time you buy a game day 1, you are putting faith in the fact that the developer made a quality product worthy of $60. When a game is released as a GOTY edition, it already has a known value (as well as additional content), and it could therefore be argued that it is worth full price more than the game you bought day 1. The same is true of consoles themselves. If you buy a console day 1, you have less content to play on it than someone that buys it in year 2 for $100 less. There is more value in the product later in it's life cycle. You are merely paying more to experience it early...and there's nothing wrong with that. When you say that a product is NOT worth full price because it comes later, despite having more content, better graphics/framerate/etc, then you are essentially saying that the value of experiencing it early is more valuable than the content itself, which is a ridiculous proposition. And the fact is, GOTY additions generally ARE full priced.
If you're going to compare TLOU to platinum hits like SOTC/GOW/etc, I would ask you this. How much content did those games have compared to games nowadays? If I bought Super Mario Bros 3 for full price when it first came out, and the game costs $15 now, does that make those platinum games that costs $40 a bad deal? Value is a completely subjective measure and is up to the individual.
If you've already played the game, you might not think it's worth $60 and that's fine (I didn't buy Tomb Raider on PS4 for that exact reason). But to say the game itself is not worth $60 just because it came out a year ago doesn't make any sense.
I hear you and I don't care either. I'm sick of it too.
Sounds like the equivalent of getting pushed off a balcony.
Target or not, at least we know it will play a hell of a lot better than the PS3 version does, because lets be honest the game at times turned into a freaking slideshow.
Sure let's be honest. It really didn't turn into a fucking slideshow.
Did it dip sometimes? Yeah occasionally. (I think?), but rarely enough and barely noticeable where it didn't hinder jack shit about the overall experience or gameplay.
I can't even remember any super specific instances where this happened off the top of my head (and I totally feel like devils advocate here )and I've beaten the game about a dozen times or more
Calling it a slideshow is fucking insulting though man and definitely soaked in some hyperbole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_value
Smith's "break" with the old school of Economics is precisely the break from the incorrect concept of Surplus Value.
Supply and demand are absolutely not the product of neoclassical economics. Smith's 1776 works already developed the concept.
We are getting way off-topic, though. The main point is that utilizing production costs as a measure of value is incorrect.
SlaughterX
Banned
Wouldn't buy again for $60, but by the time I get a PS4 (when MGS5 comes out) this will be cheaper, and I haven't bought the DLC yet so I can justify at least $20 towards it. I like that they did this rather than delay the PS3 version like some other companies might have done.
This is essentially a GOTY edition, except on the current of console (which makes for a way better experience due to Dualshock 4, loading speeds, and instant multitasking capabilities of the PS4).
So I have to ask: was there always this much bitching about price when it came to GoTY editions last year? Those were all prices at $60 initially and I remember (Uncharted 2, Batman AA: GOTY, Borderlands 2 GOTY, etc)...
Again this isn't a ported version of PS2 games we're taking about here..
So I have to ask: was there always this much bitching about price when it came to GoTY editions last year? Those were all prices at $60 initially and I remember (Uncharted 2, Batman AA: GOTY, Borderlands 2 GOTY, etc)...
Again this isn't a ported version of PS2 games we're taking about here..
EmptySpace
Banned
i just think the ai was easy to exploit and they lack adaptability. they probably have a few states which they switch to whenever they find something or hear something. how many times have you had the situation where the ai just walked right past you while you were crouching? or they tried to box with you as you're wielding a shotgun? it's not that the ai was uber dumb, it was that the tactics required to fool them were easy to execute.
i know the ps3 is old hardware, i was just underwhelmed after they showed off that e3 demo. i never had that moment where the ai suddenly comes out of nowhere, which happened twice in the e3 demo.
hopefully in the sequel, the ai can actually do what joel can. i'd rather have 1 or 2 ai which are as good as the player in tactics rather than 10 predictable ai trying to flank you. why? it's easy to kill enemies in games. they travel in straight lines, they don't make sudden movements, they don't switch weapons, they announce it when they're about to throw something, etc.
Night Hunter
Banned
looks like I was misinformed then
Would you clarify what difficulty?
I doubt it, I just finished my survivor run and I don't think I ever had a full load of 9 arrows... a lot of times i'd have just a couple of rounds of ammo per weapon. on average at least.
i'm sure i could've replayed sections to be more efficient but I generally don't play my games like that.
Jdnathan11
Banned
Lol $60
Some of the later levels were absolutely atrocious FPS wise, IIRC Whitefish Lake was terrible. So I'm thinking we very in expectations, so no need to get all in a huff.
Jdnathan11
Banned
Lol< 60fps
I'm not huffin and puffin at all. It's all good.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Ppl still complaining about the price? I'm going to buy an extra to donate to one of you guys.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I figured this thread would be rampant with speculation that Naughty Dog would be adding back in the content they cut prior to release. I also assumed people would give out their ideas for ways to possibly enhance the gameplay. After all, one of the main bulletpoints is added gameplay elements.
But here we are arguing about price.
But here we are arguing about price.
Chuck Norris
Banned
What cut content?