Don't reboot, just exit out of the queuing menu a couple times to the multiplayer menu.
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The Last of Us: Remastered MP |OT| For the love of god please stop running.
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Don't reboot, just exit out of the queuing menu a couple times to the multiplayer menu.
Been looking at higher level skills I unlocked recently.
What is the difference between Crafter 2 and Crafter 3? The description given is identical.
Looked at the diff between First Aid Training 2 & 3, and the only difference stated is that you heal 20 health instead of 10 health. That's a raw deal for 2 whole loadout points, lol
edit: answered my own question, you can craft a gift after making 2 items instead of 3. That doesn't seem worth the extra points either :U
What is the difference between Crafter 2 and Crafter 3? The description given is identical.
Looked at the diff between First Aid Training 2 & 3, and the only difference stated is that you heal 20 health instead of 10 health. That's a raw deal for 2 whole loadout points, lol
edit: answered my own question, you can craft a gift after making 2 items instead of 3. That doesn't seem worth the extra points either :U
you are not alone i did the same....
on a side note this is utter bs that we have to play like 84 matches as both hunter and firefly to get the platinum. i don't even play for trophies that much but this game i did and now i want to complete because i got all the single player stuff. mp is a lot of fun but it still is ridiculous.
I'll back this sentiment about "one more match." Extremely addictive MP.
I'll also support the sentiment that 168 matches for 2 trophies is ridiculous. Mainly because I already did it on PS3.
toastyToast
Member
With the mission to heal team mates. How does it count? Is it per tick or red to full health?
Per tick, you can get in the hundreds.
toastyToast
Member
Actually no. It doesn't count. You get supplies towards your unlocks but that's it. So if you have the luck of getting dropped into nothing but in progress games you're stuck playing the same day 5 games straight.
When I finally got pissed off and quit I get to the menu and see I have 40 hungry people.
It gives you more days to complete missions at least.
I love this MP but it seems to often devolve into people equipping the bow and running off in different directions.
Played a match earlier where everyone of my teammates went it alone with the bow and we got crushed. It seems to be way overpowered too, people soak up bullets like crazy but two arrows will down anyone.
Played a match earlier where everyone of my teammates went it alone with the bow and we got crushed. It seems to be way overpowered too, people soak up bullets like crazy but two arrows will down anyone.
Am I supposed to take that quote as some sort of gospel truth?. It is far more damaging than say, a 9mm. Arrows shouldn't kill people like some golden gun.
I've literally been destroying people with the bow because it's so fantastically accurate. Was playing at my friends all day and the style of play is just not my thing
The problem with the bow is it seems to encourage people sneaking off on their own and it makes the game (in my opinion) boring. I'm just not very good at this game when my teammates disappear into the four corners of the map.
Finally made it to week nine in my first journey. If I'm completely honest, this is already starting to feel like a slog.
Again, I think it's because I played through all of this to get the platinum on PS3.
Oh well; it's not like I am hating the game. I'm just not into it as much as I thought I would be.
I really do think playing 168+ games on the PS3 sort of wore me down heading into the PS4 version.
Again, I think it's because I played through all of this to get the platinum on PS3.
Oh well; it's not like I am hating the game. I'm just not into it as much as I thought I would be.
I really do think playing 168+ games on the PS3 sort of wore me down heading into the PS4 version.
I rarely play any MP on consoles and I've been surprised at how much I enjoy the MP in this game, and I've played a lot of matches. But 168 rounds is like, a lot. Completing a match and getting to a new one is roughly 10-15 minutes, which means it'll be about 30-40 hours of multiplayer to complete both campaigns.
And that's if you survive all the 100% risk missions, which most people would need to plan for (I didn't and failed a high risk mission halfway through a Hunter campaign and had to start over). I play TLOU MP consistently but I usually just play a handful of rounds per day because it gets draining quick. It's gonna take forever to reach my plat -- just hope I don't get burned out on the gameplay before then.
Ha! I feel the same way. Had one of those days yesterday..
I decided that I hated the "Clan Member" meta-game. Sure, some missions to choose are easy but you run out of the easy ones after a few times. It forces you to alter your play-style, not for reward but to save your clan's ass. And I think that might have caused a loss for my team a couple of times, between you and me (e.g. trying to take out with knife instead of a clean shot was a failure and through a mini-butterfly effect, it changed the game's course, we lost)
It's a method to lessen the amount of quitters (at least through the game menu's), as quitting devastates the clan status, and for a 4vs4 game, the less quitters the better, but I feel it could be more reward based than punishment.
What do I lose by ignoring it completely? My max population ever was 74. Will I miss anything if I ignore that?
It's a method to lessen the amount of quitters (at least through the game menu's), as quitting devastates the clan status, and for a 4vs4 game, the less quitters the better, but I feel it could be more reward based than punishment.
What do I lose by ignoring it completely? My max population ever was 74. Will I miss anything if I ignore that?
Bright-Light
Member
Maybe a couple of masks or hats.
Some customisation items, all cosmetic. You'll still be able to get all of the weapons and perks.
only meaningful thing is unlocking all 13 of your loadout points. You should manage that naturally through play though. 3825-ish points to unlock the 13th loadout point
tbh the metagame is fairly ignorable - even the 100% failure missions you can just pick something like healing and the support class and you should breeze through.
DrDrizzay101
Member
This is by far my biggest issue with the Clan Member meta-game, combined with the severity of the 100%-loss events. You can't lose less than 20% even if you go way over the requirements which kills my interest in increasing my clan.
When you have to focus on one specific activity instead of solely playing to help your team, it undermines what makes the MP compelling in the first place.
Jinjo
Member
Nice little fuck you from Naughty Dog to all the people that bought the season pass and previous hat bundles by making the samurai helmet exclusive to this bundle. They should make it so that if you have bought all the previous bundle you get the helmet too. Nice job on rewarding the loyal players (as in the ones who bought the hats before).
Thanks guys. I have all 13 loadout points. Cosmetics I don't care. So think I'm going to relax about it. That said, the game still could do without 100% risk missions and the mandatory 20% loss (it does keep unchecked clan growth but that growth is already limited by the amount you can salvage every round as people become sick and pass away) so why the extra frustration?
toastyToast
Member
I think the missions add a good amount of flavour to the game. I prefer to think of it as potentially adding to the breadth of your playstyle. For example, I thought the shorty was terrible so I took the 3 shorty downs missions. Turns out its freaking great to have for close quarters encounters and now my sneaky loadout is bow + silenced shorty.
I kept my experimenting to the missions that grant you new clan members. Nothing wrong with screwing those up. For the 100% ones there are some really easy ones you can do like getting downs, executions and healing (thanks for the tip). Gift boxes are really easy too. You can repeat the down and execution ones and they're still pretty easy. Also you can go for 3 downs with your preferred weapon. There are only 5 full wipe challenges.
I kept my experimenting to the missions that grant you new clan members. Nothing wrong with screwing those up. For the 100% ones there are some really easy ones you can do like getting downs, executions and healing (thanks for the tip). Gift boxes are really easy too. You can repeat the down and execution ones and they're still pretty easy. Also you can go for 3 downs with your preferred weapon. There are only 5 full wipe challenges.
DrDrizzay101
Member
$30 for hats when I paid $25 for the entire game. I know some people like this stuff, but I will never understand it.
I can understand this, but it's not how I approach the game. I'm already going to experiment with everything and find my favorite stuff, so I don't like being influenced into playing other ways, especially when it can conflict with the team's interests.
I know all this stuff and have never had an issue completing the events, but I don't think they are integrated well into the main MP. Team play is the heart of the experience, so anything that can potentially detract from that is bad design to me. The "20% minimum tax" is just silly imho.
That's both journeys done. Officially Fi ished with last of us mp until new maps. The final 2 weeks were awful netcode wise. Had invisible ppl. Hit detection lag in the seconds been like this since .017. Glad that's over wit. No quits. Almost 100% survivors took me nearly 3 weeks. Which was 44 hours altogether. Now to start the sp.
william_557
Member
on the firefly journey and my headset has broken!! i can listen but not chat! the mp is so much worse then with one!
No, it just gives a good explanation as to why it isn't overpowered. And of course it's more damaging than a 9mm, it's a handgun. It isn't some golden gun. It's quite easy to down a bow user one on one. Once you're pumping bullets in them, it's really hard for them to get a shot off that's even close to on target. And if they go under cover / start shooting around a corner? Don't peak out, wait till they go down for a second and draw your weapon, once they pop out they're dead. You could make the sneaking off complaint about any weapon, silenced or not. It's covert training that allows them to not be detected by listen mode.
Subtervotion
Member
The bow is fine. It downs in two shots. So does the hunting rifle. Hunting rifle has 'more' range (scope makes it easier to kill at long range, no arc). Bow has better close quarters game. Bow = 3 lp, hunting rifle = 2. Bow is silent, but draw speed is slow. Bow fires in succession faster than hunting rifle, but you can unscope with hunting rifle, whereas bows draw speed hinders unscoping. This matters because of movement speed while scoped.
9mm requires 5 hits to down but costs 0 lp. Also fires quickly, and quick to scope. Revolver = 3 shots to down. Slower fire. 0 lp.
Personally I admit the bow is good. I use the hunting rifle 99% of the time in my classes though. If teammates run off, thats more of a problem with their playstyle. I know people who run bow and stick with the team.
Bow is not OP.
the_batman
Banned
how do i always end up missing my throws or end up hitting myself with molotovs and grenades..
and fuck teammates who don't revive.
and fuck teammates who don't revive.
Subtervotion
Member
There are only 5 100% wipes. Use downs/kills/marks for those. You should be doing all those every game anyway. All other missions where you lose clan members, chose downs with your prefered weapons. All other missions, experiment or just don't care. Of course healing and gifting are easy too, but im specifically telling you ones that won't affect your play style. Easy.
MaximusPayne
Member
This, the throw arc will show a full arc going through a window or door and damn if it doesn't explode on me when i throw it. This has happened a few times while being the last one standing and it's embarrassing because you know everyone saw it. LOL
Can someone tell me if this is correct? Any mission that doesn't outright say "#% Population Risk" can be ignored as the only thing they're good for is increasing clan members?
I've been using "downs using [weapon]" and "mark enemies" so far for these but I get the feeling I'm better off choosing something impossible for these missions and save the easier objectives for the real population risk missions. I don't care about clan numbers, I just wanna get to the end without worrying.
I've been using "downs using [weapon]" and "mark enemies" so far for these but I get the feeling I'm better off choosing something impossible for these missions and save the easier objectives for the real population risk missions. I don't care about clan numbers, I just wanna get to the end without worrying.
Depends. If you close the application there's no penalty, but if you just leave the game there's a pretty severe penalty and you can lose a lot of your clan.
As long as it doesn't make you lose all your clan members, I don't think people with the single-minded focus of preserving a K/D ratio and getting high levels will care too much about that.
I just choose a fairly difficult mission that I may or may not get done for the regular no-risk missions, so if I get it, great -- but if I don't, no skin off my back. Stuff like "kills with a molotov/shiv", where it's not something I can do consistently.
I just want the meta game to be as hands off as possible with my online matches (but I obviously still care somewhat because I equip Collector 2 so I can get more supplies/clan members, lol).
You miss a fedora or two. Max population (for PS3) is 115 for all hat unlocks. But when the game starts wanting 80+ junk per match to get an increase, it's pointless to care since the rest of your team has to be idiots, the enemies have to be idiots, and you have to be extremely good to reach that amount of junk per match unless you're getting a shit ton of parts.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Naughty Dog just announced the next 2 new MP maps are free.
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/free_maps_and_about_those_pesky_matchmaking_times/
http://www.naughtydog.com/site/post/free_maps_and_about_those_pesky_matchmaking_times/
Exploratory
Banned
WE DID IT! YES!!!!
Shooting a downed person is balanced against special executing them. I like the trade offs depending on the situation.
Plus a headshot will instant kill them anyways with anything but the 9mm.
toastyToast
Member
Yes! Hunter journey down.
The last few weeks completely murders your population. Ended up with only 60 at the end.
The last few weeks completely murders your population. Ended up with only 60 at the end.
That is true. The only way to discourage that would be other behavior like making them wait a few minutes to search for a new match.
I actually stuck it out when it was only me and one other guy playing against 4 on the other team when our teammates quit and the game didn't add anyone else. Sucked but I went 6 and 6 even being outnumbered that badly. He went something like 1-9 though.
KevMan1815
Member
Playing survivors is so annoying when the other team has people quit to the point you play against one or two people. Screwed if you quit, screwed if you play.
What I'm saying is it doesn't make sense that an arrow is more than twice as damaging than a bullet, regardless if it came from a handgun or not. These are your bog-standard post-apocalypse grunts running around with basic weapons that are cobbled together with broken bits of scissor and sticky tape - yet, give them a bow and arrow and they turn into Legolas.
What your talking about is the bow being balanced in contrast to the other weapons (which makes sense), rather than arguing it not being over powered or not. It's just a matter of getting used to the damage points assigned to each weapon, in the beginning, if I go up behind a person and put a shorty or revolver to the back of their head I don't expect them to turn around and down me with an arrow to the torso.
One arrow to the torso won't take anyone down unless your health is at about half. If you come up behind someone and you have a shorty at point blank range, and they take you out with a bow, then that's an issue with you and not the weapon balancing.
The bow takes two shots to torso to take someone down. Same as hunting rifle. Hunting rifle doesn't have range drop off. They both can take someone down with a headshot in one shot. I don't see what everyone's problem is with the bow. It's a high risk, high reward weapon. If you're good at it, you can do pretty well, same with anything else in the game.
Headshots are not instant death with revolvers or shortys but they are with arrows. Doesn't make sense.
It doesn't seem high risk when the entire match is compromised of expert archers and nothing else. And I've done it, I had my fun with the bow, but the fun wears very thin quickly.
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