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The Last of Us: Remastered |OT| Game of the Years

Sequel speculation:

If I was writing it I would have the player start off in Tommy's town a few years later, probably open with something like the deleted scene shown during the one night live presentation. You control Joel and sure enough something goes wrong with Tommy's town's defenses and all hell breaks loose. You fight hard alongside Ellie and Tommy but eventually the town is overrun and you have to flee.

I would also write in a potential love interest for Ellie that makes it out with you, just so you could have some over-protective father drama with Joel. This, in addition to the lie told at the end of the first game, makes Joel and Ellie's relationship uneasy through most of the early game.

At some point the three of them get ambushed by infected, Ellie and the love interest get into a no-win situation and Joel gets bitten while rescuing them. Joel asks Ellie to end it for him, but she refuses. At this point Joel reveals the truth about what happened in Salt Lake City, hoping it will convince her to kill him. Instead she leaves him to die alone.

She decides to head back to Salt Lake City to try and find any remnants of the Fireflies, hoping to eventually sacrifice herself for the cure. When they get there, the love interest figures out her intentions and tries to convince her not to do it. Resolute, she decides it's best to part ways and go it alone.

She gets a clue from Salt Lake City that points her in the direction of another potential research base. Along the way she encounters a few different scenarios where people are in dire situations is able to rescue them, becoming a hero to some.

In the end she gets there and of course, something happens that prevents the procedure from being done. Say some band of assholes come along to raid the site - killing many, while abducting women or children (maybe for meat like David's bunch). Alone and unable to fulfill her purpose, Ellie contemplates ending her own life.

Before she can, one of the survivors finds her and asks for her help to rescue the some of the abducted. Ellie agrees, and eventually succeeds, and in doing so realizes that she has found a reason for survival: helping others. With the skills she has acquired, in addition to her immunity to the bacteria, she becomes a warrior for people in the land of the dead

Thank god you're not writing it then. The bolded parts are filled with clichés and Ellie is completely, 100% out of character.
 

Cudder

Member
Can anyone come up with a game that has better voice acting than this? Uncharted is the closest thing and that's made by the same company.

Rockstar and the GTA series is probably the only other series that comes close. I still think Last of Us is better, though, due to all of the small little nuances of each performance.
 
This is my first time playing The Last Of Us but is the action like the gunshots very loud or is it just me?

I find that I turn the audio down during the shootouts because of how loud they are then back up again when its quiet and there is talking.

I just have the sound coming from my hdtv speakers no sound setup.

If you think it's too loud, you can simply decrease Dynamic Range in the Audio options. I personally always have it set at maximum, except when I need to use Midnight Mode.

As an aside, I now realise my previous post came out too strong with no justification, so I'll write a post about why I disagreed with the bolded so much.
 

lmbotiva

Junior Member
How many times I have to finish the game to get the platinum? Considering in played the first time on normal to enjoy the story
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Well in most other games guns sound the same or even softer than everything else which is utter nonsense and unsatisfying. I'd say The Last Of Us got the volume levels pretty much spot on, but I can see it being jarring to someone who isn't used to it.

I was pretty impressed the first time I heard a gun fired. Had some real ooomph to it, the way a gun shot should.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
How many times I have to finish the game to get the platinum? Considering in played the first time on normal to enjoy the story

If you have finished the game on normal, you need to use the NG+ glitch on survival to avoid having to do two more runs.

Start a new game plus on normal and play through the first chapter. Exit. Use chapter select and replay the first chapter on survival, and boom you are now in NG+ mode on Survival. If you don't do that, you will have to play two more times.
 

Curufinwe

Member
My stereo stopped producing sound out of the right speaker yesterday so I need to go get a new one soon. I can't play TLoU missing the right channel, or using the shitty speakers on my TV.
 

lmbotiva

Junior Member
If you have finished the game on normal, you need to use the NG+ glitch on survival to avoid having to do two more runs.

Start a new game plus on normal and play through the first chapter. Exit. Use chapter select and replay the first chapter on survival, and boom you are now in NG+ mode on Survival. If you don't do that, you will have to play two more times.
is it confirmed this glitch still works on the remastered?and the first chapter exactly where should i change the difficulty? i just wanna get it right, thanks
 
I'm about to start my 3rd play through of Tlou:R. I beat Tlou several times on ps3. Yet I can't stop playing, it's simply one of the best games I've ever played.
 

Rixxan

Member
super rough / pleb / no writing talent sequel desires, coming from someone who originally
did not want a sequel, but has grown to accept it as an inevitability.

Like others have said i think the Ellie hating Joel thing is severely overblown, i'm sure there is going to be some resentment and unanswered questions there - but she has someone who cares about her, and she cares about him - significantly. I think the on-stage after credits scene kind of highlights how they will be "okay" in terms of how their relationship standing goes.

I can see something happening at the town to scatter everyone, although i'm not sure it would be a classic attack/raid type situation - maybe internal politics or the like.

I think it would be a given Joel dies in the sequel, and probably earlier than later - you taking the reigns of Ellie in her late teens / early twenties. I think the opening notes might highlight on some strain in their relationship, that previously mentioned resentment. I would like to see Ellie find "something" along the way, whether its in terms of a romantic love interest, or an animal companion, i don't know - something she's passionate about, maybe helping people in some way.

Basically what i would like to happen, as the overarching theme of the sequel, is Ellie evolving to a point where she loves enough, she has found enough out of life, to make her completely forgive Joel, a moment of clarity where perhaps shes looking at a picture of him near the end of the game, long after he's gone - tears in her eyes, thankful for him beyond words, thankful for the choice he made back in the hospital at the end of the TLOU1 - the only choice he had.
 

x-Lundz-x

Member
is it confirmed this glitch still works on the remastered?and the first chapter exactly where should i change the difficulty? i just wanna get it right, thanks

Yes, it's exactly what I did on the PS3 and what I'm doing now. When you get to chapter 2, with Tess, just save and exit the game. Then use chapter select and play the first chapter again and you can choose survival / grounded mode and just continue from there. However, you are in a new game plus so you will technically be playing survival / grounded plus from that point.

You only need survival+ for the plat though.

Why are we calling it Survival? It's Survivor.
You're right... I just forget :)
 
I just started a Survival play through. Any advice on how to best succeed on this difficulty?

I'm playing on Grounded so it's probably similar to Survival - you have to master the stealth choke out. For Clickers, it's best if you save your pistol/rifle ammo just for them if you need to fight them - some encounters they can be avoided by using bottles/bricks. For Bloaters, you'll want to save molotovs and shotgun rounds just for them. Don't make spike bombs or shivs - you'll want to only make shivs when unlocking shiv doors to maximize your resources. Getting the revolver (iirc it can't be done on pistol) fire rate and reload speed upgraded before Bill's Town is so helpful because of the trap encounter. I upgraded the bow first because you can sometimes get your arrows back - if you lose arrows just die and retry because it's nice to get back all your arrows.

You can cheese the enemy AI by sometimes running in a circle and having them attack Ellie or an AI partner, while you occasionally run in and throw a punch. Also, enemies seem to react sluggishly to you when you are standing on stairs and on the ledge of a platform or car hood - this makes melee spamming pretty easy on hunters/stalkers.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I just started a Survival play through. Any advice on how to best succeed on this difficulty?

Yes, do not waste shivs on anything but doors. Build them every chance you get.

Learn how to avoid fights when necessary. Get very good at stunning with a brick and then taking out enemies that way. Same ammo except for the forced encounters.

STEALTH. STEALTH. STEALTH.
 

Cudder

Member
Does beating Grounded unlock prior difficulty trophies? Not sure since it's a DLC difficulty and is in a different trophy set..
 

JB1981

Member
Playing Grounded and not sure there has ever been a game that has more effectively made me feel like I am in the fight of my life.
 
Here it goes:

Sequel speculation:
If I was writing it I would have the player start off in Tommy's town a few years later, probably open with something like the deleted scene shown during the one night live presentation. You control Joel and sure enough something goes wrong with Tommy's town's defenses and all hell breaks loose. You fight hard alongside Ellie and Tommy but eventually the town is overrun and you have to flee.

Starts off too predictably. I thought is was bad in AC Brotherhood and I think it's bad here too.

I would also write in a potential love interest for Ellie that makes it out with you, just so you could have some over-protective father drama with Joel. This, in addition to the lie told at the end of the first game, makes Joel and Ellie's relationship uneasy through most of the early game.

1) Forced - "just for the drama" - which isn't interesting at all
2) Ellie's immunity doesn't come from her, it's a mutation of the CBI that stopped it before it could advance from its earliest stage. There's no guarantee any spores it might produce have that mutation too, however, so I'm pretty sure Ellie wouldn't risk infecting someone by making out with her.

At some point the three of them get ambushed by infected, Ellie and the love interest get into a no-win situation and Joel gets bitten while rescuing them. Joel asks Ellie to end it for him, but she refuses. At this point Joel reveals the truth about what happened in Salt Lake City, hoping it will convince her to kill him. Instead she leaves him to die alone.

Okay, here is the really bad part: Some people really seem to misunderstand the kind of friction that happened at the end of TLoU. In this case, they seem to misunderstand basic feelings. Ellie is disappointed with Joel for what she perceived as robbing her of her choice and knows she can't depend on Joel - and in a general sense, no one - forever, thus concluding her coming of age arc meaningfully, as she has always depended on someone for all of her life (like all children do).

This means Ellie's eventually going to leave Joel

This DOES NOT mean she's running away from Tommy's in the dead of night one freaking week after they get there, for crying out loud.

This DEFINITELY DOES NOT MEAN she's a cold-hearted bitch without an ounce of humanity in her to not finish Joel of all people and LEAVE HIM TO TURN, WHAT THE FUCK MAN! And why would Joel think talking about SLC would convince her? You think it would make her shoot him in a fit of rage? None of this makes sense!

She decides to head back to Salt Lake City to try and find any remnants of the Fireflies, hoping to eventually sacrifice herself for the cure. When they get there, the love interest figures out her intentions and tries to convince her not to do it. Resolute, she decides it's best to part ways and go it alone.

The Fireflies are dead. They are without leadership, without at least one of the only three "doctors" we have any reason to believe are affiliated with them, and a bunch of trigger-happy brutes. It's over.

Unecessary love interest making cliche "pls don't" speech doesn't fit in at all. Those usually serve to test a character's will to do something. Ellie already did that with Joel, this is redundant.

She gets a clue from Salt Lake City that points her in the direction of another potential research base. Along the way she encounters a few different scenarios where people are in dire situations is able to rescue them, becoming a hero to some.

YYYYYYYYYYY

In the end she gets there and of course, something happens that prevents the procedure from being done. Say some band of assholes come along to raid the site - killing many, while abducting women or children (maybe for meat like David's bunch). Alone and unable to fulfill her purpose, Ellie contemplates ending her own life.

Survivor's Guilt != Suicidal. Jesus.

Before she can, one of the survivors finds her and asks for her help to rescue the some of the abducted. Ellie agrees, and eventually succeeds, and in doing so realizes that she has found a reason for survival: helping others. With the skills she has acquired, in addition to her immunity to the bacteria, she becomes a warrior for people in the land of the dead

The world you are describing is more black-and-white than TLOU's (and RL's) is. Trust is hard to form, people backstab each other (more) often, and there's no good guy/bad guy dichotomy or magic all-knowing TES telling you who is trying to kill you or not.

Not to mention that I've seen better morals than "generic help thy neighbor" in My Little Pony episodes. And that such morals don't fit with the setting and tone of the IP.

PS: It's a fungus

PPS: What land of the dead?
 

Tankshell

Member
Got a problem guys.

During cutscenes, what seems like the rear audio channels are VERY VERY quiet almost to the point I can't hear them at all. I have a standard 5.1 setup connected via optical (Logitech Z5500), works with all other PS4 games fine and has done for years before with my PS3 and PC also.

Any ideas?
 

x-Lundz-x

Member

wait what? hows that glitch lol, you should write a glitch guide for this game

When you get to Bill's town, you get your first upgraded weapon. Once you have that, you can use a glitch to get infinite supplies for creating shivs.

1. Have a fully upgraded weapon.
2. Find another copy of the same weapon, that is not upgraded. At Bill town, you find the upgraded pipe, and you get another non upgraded pipe once Ellie opens the door for you.
3. You have the upgraded weapon in your inventory, and you pick up the non-upgraded pipe. You then pick back up the upgraded pipe.
4. You will notice, if you did not have the materials to craft a shiv, you now do.
5. You can repeat this process until you are at max shivs.

It will only work with the same weapon type. Pipe/Pipe. Bat/Bat etc...

Enjoy :).
 
Here it goes:



Starts off too predictably. I thought is was bad in AC Brotherhood and I think it's bad here too.



1) Forced - "just for the drama" - which isn't interesting at all
2) Ellie's immunity doesn't come from her, it's a mutation of the CBI that stopped it before it could advance from its earliest stage. There's no guarantee any spores it might produce have that mutation too, however, so I'm pretty sure Ellie wouldn't risk infecting someone by making out with her.



Okay, here is the really bad part: Some people really seem to misunderstand the kind of friction that happened at the end of TLoU. In this case, they seem to misunderstand basic feelings. Ellie is disappointed with Joel for what she perceived as robbing her of her choice and knows she can't depend on Joel - and in a general sense, no one - forever, thus concluding her coming of age arc meaningfully, as she has always depended on someone for all of her life (like all children do).

This means Ellie's eventually going to leave Joel

This DOES NOT mean she's running away from Tommy's in the dead of night one freaking week after they get there, for crying out loud.

This DEFINITELY DOES NOT MEAN she's a cold-hearted bitch without an ounce of humanity in her to not finish Joel of all people and LEAVE HIM TO TURN, WHAT THE FUCK MAN! And why would Joel think talking about SLC would convince her? You think it would make her shoot him in a fit of rage? None of this makes sense!



The Fireflies are dead. They are without leadership, without at least one of the only three "doctors" we have any reason to believe are affiliated with them, and a bunch of trigger-happy brutes. It's over.

Unecessary love interest making cliche "pls don't" speech doesn't fit in at all. Those usually serve to test a character's will to do something. Ellie already did that with Joel, this is redundant.



YYYYYYYYYYY



Survivor's Guilt != Suicidal. Jesus.



The world you are describing is more black-and-white than TLOU's (and RL's) is. Trust is hard to form, people backstab each other (more) often, and there's no good guy/bad guy dichotomy or magic all-knowing TES telling you who is trying to kill you or not.

Not to mention that I've seen better morals than "generic help thy neighbor" in My Little Pony episodes. And that such morals don't fit with the setting and tone of the IP.

PS: It's a fungus

PPS: What land of the dead?

Agree with this. It's pretty cliche and has all the makings of plot lines that have frustrated me for ages.
 

daveo42

Banned
Taking my time with my first replay on the PS4 on hard. Blasted through the rest of Summer and made it to Winter yesterday on Hard. Had a bit more trouble in a few of the sections but ended up
running through the hotel section one-shotting hunters left and right. It felt weird but oddly satisfying. Actually made it through the sniper section in one go as well.

The highs and lows of each section still work, even after already playing the game a few times on the PS3. I felt almost the exact same way at the end of
Summer when Sam gets infected and Henry kills himself. Same with the end to Fall and the literal fall, even though I knew it was coming.

I have a few more shots I need to put up in the screenshot thread, though they won't look near as good as some of the ones already in there. Still having a blast and looking forward to a Grounded run here in the next week or two. Funny thing is I feel like I'm finding even more stuff I missed in previous playthroughs right now. It is almost like the game is fresh and new to me in a lot of ways.
 

kubus

Member
Fucking hell I HATE the high school. HATE IT.

I've never found a way to stealth it. This area seems set up so you're forced to use guns but I really can't waste ammo on Grounded. Especially not on so many enemies.

Anyone know a solid strategy for getting through here?
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
just finished the hotel part. Reading up here, I went and
got the keycard first, then worked my way to the generator
. I thought I'd memorised the route, and then just
sprinted toward the keycard door, but there was a bloater in the hallway
(wasn't there before, cheating bastard). Luckily I slipped past without taking damage but not before shitting myself.

Was there a different way to do it to avoid that? Anyway, done now.
 

woen

Member
For those who listened to the dev commentary, was it in a hard/survivor/grounded difficulty or a simple one to don't have to retry and hear again the devs ?
 

Gurish

Member
At first i was one of those who didn't want a sequel to this masterpiece at all as I though it ended up perfectly, but I get so excited thinking about how they can make the combat and encounters on a next gen system, TLoU from the ground up for PS4 is too much intriguing to pass by.

I really want to see how the combat, AI, even more items to craft can be on next gen, just thinking about this awesome combat and AI improved even further, the sandbox elements of it, and the intensity with even better animations and physics, that could be amazing.

And i really hope Uncharted 4 take some notes from TLoU's combat as well, ofcourse it doesn't have to be as brutal, but i want encounters to feel meaningful in Uncharted as much as they do in TLoU, I really wasn't having much fun with Uncharted 3 combat system even though I can play TLoU for years, they really need to improve it, hopefully the fact that Neil and Bruce are there means they will make it better.
 
Fucking hell I HATE the high school. HATE IT.

I've never found a way to stealth it. This area seems set up so you're forced to use guns but I really can't waste ammo on Grounded. Especially not on so many enemies.

Anyone know a solid strategy for getting through here?

I did brick/bottle + takedown on the runners, and let
bill machete the clickers
. Though I used 1 molotov and a few shotgun shells on the
bloater
. I see no way around that encounter without using consumables.
 

Cudder

Member
For those who listened to the dev commentary, was it in a hard/survivor/grounded difficulty or a simple one to don't have to retry and hear again the devs ?

Commentary is only available through watching cutscenes in the gallery in the main menu.
 

W Hudson

Member
Playing Grounded and not sure there has ever been a game that has more effectively made me feel like I am in the fight of my life.

Yeah I'm on survivor and feel the same way, can't wait to see how Grounded ups the stakes. Is it just more enhanced AI, or are there less resources?
 
Yeah I'm on survivor and feel the same way, can't wait to see how Grounded ups the stakes. Is it just more enhanced AI, or are there less resources?

Same. I'm about halfway through survivor (beat it on normal on PS3). I'm having a blast, but am constantly low on ammo. I basically just brick and stealth kill everything unless I absolutely HAVE to shoot.
 
so i'm fighting that really hard fight at the end of chapter 4, and i'm amazed at how bad Bill is with a shotgun at point blank range against an enemy of that size :/ Does Bill actually hurt this thing?
 

kubus

Member
I did brick/bottle + takedown on the runners, and let
bill machete the clickers
. Though I used 1 molotov and a few shotgun shells on the
bloater
. I see no way around that encounter without using consumables.
Yeah I just got past that area now. Like you said, there really doesn't seem to be a way around there without using at least a molotov or bomb. I set the first three infected on fire, then partly melee'd and choked out the next three, and shot the last trio with the bow. Another two molotovs for the bloater + a bunch of revolver shots until he went down.

Good thing I've been hoarding my supplies so far. Sheesh!
 

terrible

Banned
On grounded mode I'd restart checkpoints when headshots didn't give me my arrows back lol. Arrows are your savior on grounded mode.
 
Survivor isn't bad at all. I don't see why it was locked out until you beat the game in the PS3 version. Same as Crushing in the Uncharteds

Have all the difficulties available from the beginning, Naughty Dog!
 
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