amstradcpc
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I hope not.
The Last of Us - Review Thread [Emargo up, scores in OP.]
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I hope not.
Chris Kohler's review at Wired went up:
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/06/the-last-of-us-review/
No score, so you have to read it
But if there's no score how will I know what to think?
Yes, and people here complain all the time about how bad video game journalism is. As soon as a site gives a game they're hyped about and haven't played a score that isn't a 10, they claim they're doing it for hits.
Fine Ham Abounds
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You are a shitposter for even saying this
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But Leonard Part 6 and Citizen Kane are equally poor if you're only into comedies
partyphone
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Yeah! $ony is using all of that insurance money to pay off reviewers! It's the prefect scheme.
I already made a version of this joke, but it's worth repeating, not necesarilly as an insult to Phil, but as a note to urge people to read the bylines. He isn't "Polygon." He's a writer with pretty particular tastes. He's personally the last person on the staff I'd look to for impressions on a game like this. Similarly, Colin Moriarty at IGN is the last person on Earth I'd look to for impressions on anything, ever. Unless an outlet omits bylines, and has a pretty strong house voice like Edge or GamesTM, it's wrong to condemn an outlet based on one review you disagree with. Find writers you like and listen to them. I know this is really obvious, and much of the gnashing is about scores and mindshare instead of criticism, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.
I doubt the score will move from here.
Considering there's 60 more reviews to (eventually) be accounted for than I wouldn't count on it
rosaceadude2112
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still, that torture, cold-blooded execution and setting fire to people looks like it might be fun.
Thanks =) and enjoy!
In New Game +.
Play on Normal -> New Game +, Normal -> Hard -> New Game +, Hard -> Survivor, but if you want to change difficulties you can't keep your weapons and skills (I'm assuming, haven't played it).
Which, if you're changing difficulties, would only undermine that playthrough.
Nah, they will find plenty of flaws and agree that it's not worth 10/10 but maybe 8/10 or 9/10
The Smoking Bun
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And? What would they think of movies like The Road and Children of Men?
Violence can be used to make a point.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
So the game has some wave based encounters? Well fuck. Naughty Dog waves are awful.
this comes straight from Sony/ND. They were very specific about which parts of the game they wanted kept under wraps and I really hope everyone follows that. It's better for everyone if these parts aren't spoiled.
I'd assume it's trophy protection. Can't let you take an upgraded turn into a "new" game on harder difficulty for easier trophies. Once again proving that trophies/achievements are one of the worst new things from this generation.
Riposte
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says Trick I Shadow as he pats his sweaty brow, "just a little more time..."
manueldelalas
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I was pissed at the 8.8 score with TP, with time I've learned they were absolutely right, great game but the flaws were there.
Then I saw the post reactions to the GTAIV, MGSIV, Uncharted 3, etc early 10 scores, some of them with obvious flaws. Same thing. Not saying the game will be a 7.5 in the future, but I have learned to wait a few weeks and see.
Then I saw the post reactions to the GTAIV, MGSIV, Uncharted 3, etc early 10 scores, some of them with obvious flaws. Same thing. Not saying the game will be a 7.5 in the future, but I have learned to wait a few weeks and see.
I disagree really I thought all the Uncharted games were fantastic.
I didn't realize GAF was a hivemind.
What's your definition of standard? :/
Incredible.
derExperte
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Don't forget Beyond: Two Souls is still coming.
Also I preorderd, first console game I did this for since U3, especially the reports about the game length are encouraging. Enough with those 6hr snacks.
suddenlyissoon
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Yeah...I guess that was a pretty bad post in retrospect!
I guess my main complaint wasn't towards Polygon was a (albeit a probably misplaced) worry of potential outside influence from a bad review and the fact that they're just incredibly misleading about their reviews and review criteria. I mean, I've read a good majority of the reviews and outside of the inconsistent AI, the things Polygon docked the game on were things that other reviewers raved about. To each his own but I don't think I would put someone in charge of a review who doesn't like or questions the genre. It would be like putting me in charge of reviewing a Pokemon game.
I'll disappear now!
I guess my main complaint wasn't towards Polygon was a (albeit a probably misplaced) worry of potential outside influence from a bad review and the fact that they're just incredibly misleading about their reviews and review criteria. I mean, I've read a good majority of the reviews and outside of the inconsistent AI, the things Polygon docked the game on were things that other reviewers raved about. To each his own but I don't think I would put someone in charge of a review who doesn't like or questions the genre. It would be like putting me in charge of reviewing a Pokemon game.
I'll disappear now!
Xzibit would be proud.
Domcorleone
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Why do people care so much about 7s and 8s? Like why does a game need 9s and 10s? To justify your purchase?
My problem with the Polygon review is not that the score stands out, it's how Kollar used the "shaky aiming" and AI companions being invisible to enemies to justify it. He even mentioned how the aiming helped with immersion and the invisibility being good for a stealth-focused game. It's like he is saying the aiming is relatively good considering the story and characters, but it's objectively bad compared to something like Uncharted, so it's a negative.
Polygon takes so much pride in their organic review scores, but all of the actual written reviews and opinions seem anything but organic. It's like they have a checklist of what a game needs to do and they never stray from it regardless of the story/experience the game is trying to convey. Their obsession with Bioshock Infinite's violence is another example of this.
That being said, in a world without inflated review scores 7.5 is still a "good" score. But even with Kollar's weak complaints it doesn't seem to match the written words. Wonder if this is a result of numerical scoring being pretty dumb in general or Polygon needing dem clicks.
Polygon takes so much pride in their organic review scores, but all of the actual written reviews and opinions seem anything but organic. It's like they have a checklist of what a game needs to do and they never stray from it regardless of the story/experience the game is trying to convey. Their obsession with Bioshock Infinite's violence is another example of this.
That being said, in a world without inflated review scores 7.5 is still a "good" score. But even with Kollar's weak complaints it doesn't seem to match the written words. Wonder if this is a result of numerical scoring being pretty dumb in general or Polygon needing dem clicks.
Maybe they've played EP2 since then.
Principate
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TBF the difference between Gamespot's 8 and Polygon's 7.5 is only 0.5, you can't only mention and talk about polygon in regards to scores. It's not alone in it's low score. Who knows if this will turn out like another TP.
BobTheFork
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I just wish we could have a serious conversation about Polygon and the nature of reviews without either the idiots blasting them or the over-sarcastic people making jokes about 'conspiricy meetings'. If you think politics and console jockeying doesn't ever happen in game sites, you are lying to yourself. What is this review from Polygon? I don't know and it doesn't matter, it just looks bad.
Polygon didn't do itself any favors with creating a self fellating documentary before they had even begun working. A doc that had heavy funding from Microsoft itself. If you ever wanted to establish credibility out of the gate than that was the worst move possible. It looks really bad. So when they have numerous articles after the criticized XBONE reveal that were far more positive than most sites and aritcles including some that seem to defend the practices being presented than you are going to be called a mouthpiece for a console maker and not a serious site. It looks bad.
Of course when this review comes up you get the same. It fucking looks bad and it's thier own fault. We resently got a small inside comment about recent vocal GAF members and possible attachment to PR, marketing and social media firms. Well, that's what Polygon ends up looking like when this happens. It's not even fair to them or the reviewer, but that's what you get.
Polygon didn't do itself any favors with creating a self fellating documentary before they had even begun working. A doc that had heavy funding from Microsoft itself. If you ever wanted to establish credibility out of the gate than that was the worst move possible. It looks really bad. So when they have numerous articles after the criticized XBONE reveal that were far more positive than most sites and aritcles including some that seem to defend the practices being presented than you are going to be called a mouthpiece for a console maker and not a serious site. It looks bad.
Of course when this review comes up you get the same. It fucking looks bad and it's thier own fault. We resently got a small inside comment about recent vocal GAF members and possible attachment to PR, marketing and social media firms. Well, that's what Polygon ends up looking like when this happens. It's not even fair to them or the reviewer, but that's what you get.
keltickennedy
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Kudos to not linking to the Polygon review. I see Resident Evil Revelations and The Last of Us are in the same league to them...well, at least by that reviewers opinion.
You can change it on the fly, it locks to what it finishes on apparently. Which makes it sound like you can play it on Easy, go up to Hard at the end, be locked to Hard and be unable to move it down.
Stupid if true.
Sure, that would be reasonable. But there will still be people saying it's one of the worst games of the year, or of the gen, or that they've ever played. There always is.
piratepwnsninja
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Remember Me is better than The Last of Us, confirmed. Thanks, Polygon!
Fine Ham Abounds
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Crystal Dynamics' waves revealed they can be done worse.
I don't recall any waves in my playthrough, but it was 18.5 hours so maybe I was loopy.
TheRealTalker
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LOL.../dead
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