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[Kin5290]

I saw this on Twitter (I actually follow the subject of the Jezebel article this is responding to) , and thought it was an interesting read. Link here.

Babe.net describes itself as a website “for girls who don’t give a fuck.” True to form, after the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville they published a piece titled “We’re not going to fuck you, you Nazi losers,” by Dana Schwartz. “If you’re a 20-year-old pretending to be a Nazi, you’re not a bad boy; you’re a racist virgin so humiliated by his own sexual inadequacy and terrified at rejection that you’ll blame your feelings of weakness on some unseen Liberal Agenda,” she wrote. “First and foremost, the neo-Nazi alt-right movement is about racism. Second, it’s about sexual insecurity.”

Jezebel’s Kelly Stout did not see the essay as an act of criticism or humor by an established journalist, comedian, and young adult author. Instead, in her own essay (let that sink in), she accused Schwartz of being “a white woman who uses a tragedy to promote her brand” and that she “should be embarrassed.” Stout concludes by arguing that “the Nazis in Virginia weren’t really there to protest white women’s right to be alive. And the violence in Virginia does not cry out for a response from sassy white women who know a thing or two about virgins living in their moms’ basements.”

But here’s the catch: Schwartz is a prominent Jewish journalist and an outspoken target of white supremacist harassment. Assuming Stout is aware of the Nazi position on Jewry, and of Schwartz’s identity, it’s ambiguous whether she is arguing that whiteness cancels out Jewishness or whether she hadn’t picked up on Schwartz’s identity beyond “white woman.”

It’s certainly true that structural racism in the U.S. does not primarily target Jews, and to focus only on anti-Semitism would be myopic. But it’s a stretch to say that Jews responding in a personal way to a neo-Nazi rally are centering themselves, and it’s untenable in the context of Charlottesville to discuss white Jews simply as white people in need of etiquette instruction from fellow-progressive. While we should defend groups we’re not part of, we are also part of a group currently under attack.

Progressives in America pride themselves on being hyperaware of the persecution of minority groups of all kinds—blacks, women, LGBT people, immigrants—but they have a blind spot. The left first needs to recognize the very real, immediate threat of anti-Semitism in Trump’s America, and to acknowledge anti-Semitism as its own axis of oppression.

Incidentally, Dana Schwartz formerly wrote for the Observer, where she wrote a public letter to Jared Kushner (the publisher of that news outlet) criticizing him for not condemning the antisemitism in the Trump campaign.

Also, funnily enough, Kelly Stout, who wrote a response criticizing Schwartz for being a white woman making Charlottesville "about her brand", by all appearances is also white.

Anyways, I'm getting a little tired of progressive circular firing squads. What do you guys think?

 

[Billy_Pilgrim]

Many who claim to be on the left have a massive problem with jews that would quite simply not be tolerated for any other race of people.

 

[SMattera]

The person who lost the most from the Charlottesville tragedy was a white woman.

 

[Slayven]

There is a segment of the left that think calling out racism is worse then actual racism. And want the subject tucked away in a nice corner in the back where it can be ignored.

 

[kirblar]

Many who claim to be on the left have a massive problem with jews that would quite simply not be tolerated for any other race of people.

Yup.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

Many who claim to be on the left have a massive problem with jews that would quite simply not be tolerated for any other race of people.

I've never understood anti-Semitism. I'm a white dude, but I can't even SPOT Jews, let alone hate them. I'm not from the US though, Jewish population was pretty tiny in NZ when I was young. I live in NL now but still can't tell who is Jewish.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

Many who claim to be on the left have a massive problem with jews that would quite simply not be tolerated for any other race of people.

And it transcends race. You can find that sentiment in people whether they're white, black, etc.

 

[Slayven]

I've never understood anti-Semitism. I'm a white dude, but I can't even SPOT Jews, let alone hate them. I'm not from the US though, Jewish population was pretty tiny in NZ when I was young. I live in NL now but still can't tell who is Jewish.

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

 

[xxracerxx]

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

Holy shit, my mind didn't even go there. I was thinking more along the lines of people must hate Jewish people because they "control the media and banks" bullshit thinking.

Wow.

 

[MistakenMobius]

I've never understood anti-Semitism. I'm a white dude, but I can't even SPOT Jews, let alone hate them. I'm not from the US though, Jewish population was pretty tiny in NZ when I was young. I live in NL now but still can't tell who is Jewish.

You have not idea the number of time people asked if I was Jewish, it's just crazy, you would think they are looking for Lizard people.

I feel that left anti-sémitisme is a weird mutation of the capitalist.

 

[Palette Swap]

Well yeah, no shit. It always seems so self-defeating too. Jewish voters are probably better allies than whatever the fuck that Jezebel contributor is. They generally know what's what and show it at the polls.

Still, this bit of the article is funny:

Jezebel’s Kelly Stout did not see the essay as an act of criticism or humor by an established journalist, comedian, and young adult author. Instead, in her own essay (let that sink in)

This being an article about an essay on the essay. And this being a thread about the article. That's way too meta for me.

 

[old manatee]

The person who lost the most from the Charlottesville tragedy was a white woman.

I guess Heather Heyer wouldn't have been hit by that car if she hadn't been there promoting her brand.

 

[MistakenMobius]

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

It doesn't really work with atheist anti-Semitism like in soviet Russia under Stalin.

 

[Real Hero]

It's definitely a big issue in the uk when you have people like george galloway chatting shit

 

[O Canada Our Home and Native Land]

I saw this on Twitter (I actually follow the subject of the Jezebel article this is responding to) , and thought it was an interesting read. Link here.


Incidentally, Dana Schwartz formerly wrote for the Observer, where she wrote a public letter to Jared Kushner (the publisher of that news outlet) criticizing him for not condemning the antisemitism in the Trump campaign.

Also, funnily enough, Kelly Stout, who wrote a response criticizing Schwartz for being a white woman making Charlottesville "about her brand", by all appearances is also white.

Anyways, I'm getting a little tired of progressive circular firing squads. What do you guys think?

You're tired of progressive circular fire, but then you make a thread and spread it. hmm

 

[kirblar]

It doesn't really work with atheist anti-Semitism like in soviet Russia under Stalin.

This part of the article is usually what happens there:

The left also needs to understand that neither socioeconomic privilege nor white privilege guard against anti-Semitism. In fact, the perceived privilege of Jews is precisely why many anti-Semites despise them—consider the conspiracy theory that Jews control the media and Wall Street—and why many progressives are incapable of classifying Jews as a marginalized minority.

 

[kittoo]

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

In Christian populations, sure. But even a lot of Atheists hate Jews, huge populations of Muslims do, leftists in countries which are neither Christian nor Muslim, like India, do. Its a bit more complicated than that. Most reasons of hating are bullshit of course and these people are assholes, but there are more reasons than they killed christ for sure.
Historically in Europe though, killed Christ has been the reason throughout the ages.

Also, read a great article sometimes back which said that apart from 'killed Jesus' thing, Christians also hated Jews because Jews refused to convert and accept Jesus as their lord and savior and what not, despite all these years etc. Jews were the ones who just wont conform and bow down. Makes sense.

 

[rudger]

I've never understood anti-Semitism. I'm a white dude, but I can't even SPOT Jews, let alone hate them. I'm not from the US though, Jewish population was pretty tiny in NZ when I was young. I live in NL now but still can't tell who is Jewish.

If you're ever bored and want to learn, here's a "fun" game you can play when you visit a decent sized American city.

1) Look up what a chasidic Jew is - they often wear all black with black hats and long curly sideburns - easy to spot

2) find one awkwardly standing on the sidewalk who appears to be holding some religious garb that will occasionally speak with strangers walking down the street

3) pay attention to what these people look like

There ya go! They are actively seeking other less religious (in their view) Jews so they only approach people they think look Jewish. They are trying to get them to participate in a brief religious activity to remind them of their faith...jerks never leave me alone.

 

[radios shipping overview]

Maybe I don't have the best perspective on this because I hang out on /pol/ all the time and I see exactly how much these far-right groups hate Jews (they really fucking hate them, you really can't miss it). Is the problem that the American left isn't currently talking enough about how far-right groups hate Jews? Am I wrong in assuming this goes without saying? Because of course these groups hate Jews, and of course they're danger to Jewish Americans.

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/08/167810/anti-semitism-charlottesville-protest

You don’t have to denounce anti-Semitism over other forms of hate; you just need to make sure you include it. Speaking out against anti-Semitism and discussing the plight of Jews in America doesn’t exclude the hateful and violent histories experienced by other oppressed groups in the U.S. We don’t need to sweep one atrocity under the rug to make room for others; there’s plenty of space, as well as a dire need, to discuss every single one of them. They were all born from a similar place of hate and ignorance, and there’s no place for even the tiniest crumb of it in the United States of America.

Okay, yes, anti-Semitism is bad, and people should be reminded that Nazis hate Jews, in case they missed that point somehow.

 

[Oberon]

In Christian populations, sure. But even a lot of Atheists hate Jews, huge populations of Muslims do, leftists in countries which are neither Christian nor Muslim, like India, do. Its a bit more complicated than that. Most reasons of hating are bullshit of course and these people are assholes, but there are more reasons than they killed christ for sure.
Historically in Europe though, killed Christ has been the reason throughout the ages.

Also, read a great article sometimes back which said that apart from 'killed Jesus' thing, Christians also hated Jews because Jews refused to convert and accept Jesus as their lord and savior and what not, despite all these years etc. Jews were the ones who just wont conform and bow down. Makes sense.

Isn't that because India and big part of the middle east were under European colonial ruling for the longest time. Would explain how anti semetic rethorics would end up in places like India.

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

Because the left is known for their christian fundamentalists

 

[Zap Rowsdower]

Isn't that because India and big part of the middle east were under European colonial ruling for the longest time. Would explain how anti semetic rethorics would end up in places like India.

There's actually been a population of Jewish people, the Cochin, that have lived in India for centuries, many of them moved to Israel after its founding though.

Maybe I don't have the best perspective on this because I hang out on /pol/ all the time and I see exactly how much these far-right groups hate Jews (they really fucking hate them, you really can't miss it). Is the problem that the American left isn't currently talking enough about how far-right groups hate Jews? Am I wrong in assuming this goes without saying? Because of course these groups hate Jews, and of course they're danger to Jewish Americans.

I think one major facet of the problem is is that leftists rightfully criticize the Israeli government for being super shitty and committing genocide against the Palestinians but some of them take it too far and start thinking that the Israeli government = all Jews when that is not true at all.

 

[Chairman Yang]

Isn't that because India and big part of the middle east were under European colonial ruling for the longest time. Would explain how anti semetic rethorics would end up in places like India.

No--Muslim anti-Semitism has pretty much existed as long as Islam.

 

[TyrantII]

There's actually been a population of Jewish people, the Cochin, that have lived in India for centuries, many of them moved to Israel after its founding though.

I think one major facet of the problem is is that leftists rightfully criticize the Israeli government for being super shitty and committing genocide against the Palestinians but some of them take it too far and start thinking that the Israeli government = all Jews when that is not true at all.

Being anti-zionist (in it's current form) shouldn't be equated with being anti-semetic.

A lot of folks would like to group that all together, and that wedge has been used in the US to try to make political gains by some.

 

[tearsintherain]

In Christian populations, sure. But even a lot of Atheists hate Jews, huge populations of Muslims do, leftists in countries which are neither Christian nor Muslim, like India, do. Its a bit more complicated than that. Most reasons of hating are bullshit of course and these people are assholes, but there are more reasons than they killed christ for sure.
Historically in Europe though, killed Christ has been the reason throughout the ages.

Also, read a great article sometimes back which said that apart from 'killed Jesus' thing, Christians also hated Jews because Jews refused to convert and accept Jesus as their lord and savior and what not, despite all these years etc. Jews were the ones who just wont conform and bow down. Makes sense.

I've never heard of Hindu Indians hating Jews, all the ones I've ever talked to (grew up next door to an indian family, I'd go to their temple with them once in a while for the amazing free food) always loved Jews and identified a lot with their work ethics, morals, etc. I visited India twice and learned about Jewish communities that have lived there a long, long time in peace with the locals.

I think you may be thinking of Muslim Indians, who compromise around 20% of the country, and Islam and Judaism has always had a ... strained relationship due to Israel, Palestine, etc.

I could be wrong of course and any Indians in India are welcome to correct me.

And yeah I've noticed a lot the idea that supporting the state of Israel automatically means you are for the genocide of Palestinians. You can support the right of Israel to exist, the violence they have inflicted and suffered to maintain their countries borders, deplore the violence done against the state/citizens, deplore the way they treat the citizens of Palestine, want settlements shut down and rolled back in Palestine, and still call yourself a progressive. Its not a black or white thing where Israel = evil, Palestine = pure good.

 

[Psychoward]

Many who claim to be on the left have a massive problem with jews that would quite simply not be tolerated for any other race of people.

I really, really don't think so. In my own experience at least (again, speaking from anecdotal experience as you seem to be as well) it seems that some jewish leftists take any criticisms of israel wayyyy too personally and think it extends to the jewish religion or all jewish people. Like one of my good friends has been accused of being anti-Semitic for speaking out against Israel. She's a practicing jew.

 

[Glix]

I had this talk with my mom yesterday.

"Wow, the right certainly hates us. The left seems to hate us too. Everyone hates us."

"I'm shocked! Everyone hates the Jews! Who could have seen this one coming?"

We are always the common enemy that unites others.

it seems that some jewish leftists take any criticisms of israel wayyyy too personally and think it extends to the jewish religion or all jewish people

You are correct. Even secular Jews like myself who balk at Israels treatment of the Palestinians, bristle at non-jews who make judgements about Israel, especially when they have never been there and can't tell me shit about 1967, etc...

 

[Zap Rowsdower]

No--Muslim anti-Semitism has pretty much existed as long as Islam.

That isn't really that true though. Jews weren't persecuted in Muslim countries like they were in Christian countries for centuries because one of the core tenants of Islam was that Muslims had to respect the other Abrahamic faiths. A lot of the modern antisemitism in the Arabian Peninsula stems from the clusterfuck in the founding of Israel pretty much.

 

[radios shipping overview]

I really, really don't think so. In my own experience at least (again, speaking from anecdotal experience as you seem to be as well) it seems that some jewish leftists take any criticisms of israel wayyyy too personally and think it extends to the jewish religion or all jewish people. Like one of my good friends has been accused of being anti-Semitic for speaking out against Israel. She's a practicing jew.

Since Zionism is nationalism that is based on the Jewish identity, I guess a lot of people invert the logic to mean that an attack on Zionism is also an attack on Jewish identity. Which is like arguing that being against American nationalism is to be against American identity or Americans.

 

[Fenderputty]

Serisous question: On average, how many Americansn (as a percentage) think the Jewish people are a separate race? How much antisemitism is derived from a faith based animosity? Much like we see with current Christians feeling towards Islam.

 

[Mark L]

That isn't really that true though. Jews weren't persecuted in Muslim countries like they were in Christian countries for centuries because one of the core tenants of Islam was that Muslims had to respect the other Abrahamic faiths. A lot of the modern antisemitism in the Arabian Peninsula stems from the clusterfuck in the founding of Israel pretty much.

They weren't persecuted *like in Christian countries* but I assure you that they were forced to pay special taxes and often publicly humiliated. So yes, things were much better than in Christian countries but let's not lionize the way they were treated as anything vaguely like the modern definition of tolerant.

Also: As a jewish person, let me be crystal clear: any would-be "progressive" who wants to teach me a lesson about the fucking Nazis can go fuck themselves.

 

[Glix]

That isn't really that true though. Jews weren't persecuted in Muslim countries like they were in Christian countries for centuries because one of the core tenants of Islam was that Muslims had to respect the other Abrahamic faiths. A lot of the modern antisemitism in the Arabian Peninsula stems from the clusterfuck in the founding of Israel pretty much.

Sorry man. The idea of Israel being responsible for anti semitisim, be it from Muslims or others is a fucking nonsense bullshit argument, created by anti-zionists.

All these countries had no issues with jews, but then within days of the country being created mobilized their armies against it to wipe it off the map? And won't even acknowledge it exists?

But you are telling me that weeks earlier they had no problem with Jews? Get the fuck outta here.

 

[cackhyena]

There is a segment of the left that think calling out racism is worse then actual racism. And want the subject tucked away in a nice corner in the back where it can be ignored.

Wha? I can't keep up.

 

[TimeEffect]

In Christian populations, sure. But even a lot of Atheists hate Jews, huge populations of Muslims do, leftists in countries which are neither Christian nor Muslim, like India, do. Its a bit more complicated than that. Most reasons of hating are bullshit of course and these people are assholes, but there are more reasons than they killed christ for sure.
Historically in Europe though, killed Christ has been the reason throughout the ages.

Also, read a great article sometimes back which said that apart from 'killed Jesus' thing, Christians also hated Jews because Jews refused to convert and accept Jesus as their lord and savior and what not, despite all these years etc. Jews were the ones who just wont conform and bow down. Makes sense.

Which atheists hate jews?

 

[Random Human]

I really, really don't think so. In my own experience at least (again, speaking from anecdotal experience as you seem to be as well) it seems that some jewish leftists take any criticisms of israel wayyyy too personally and think it extends to the jewish religion or all jewish people. Like one of my good friends has been accused of being anti-Semitic for speaking out against Israel. She's a practicing jew.

You're falling into a common and unfortunate line here. Whenever someone tries to discuss the issue of anti-Semitism on the left, someone inevitably responds with this idea that it's just because people were criticizing Israel and got called anti-Semites.

 

[Ogodei]

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

That's been used, but a larger part of it has merely been the Jews' tendency to keep to themselves over the millennia since the diaspora, effectively being "aliens among us" for the communities in Europe and the Middle East that they entered into.

The "Jews=bankers" link came because of prohibitions against being lenders that came within Christianity and Islam (although Jews were prevented from being lenders to other Jews by similar strictures). This meant that Jews had leverage over the powerful in their countries because they controlled the flow of credit that wealthy Christians were not allowed to provide, and so some antisemitism stems from people in debt to Jewish creditors looking for ways to get back at them.

It's one of those things that just grew to become a cultural force all on its own, but has roots in specific problems of medieval Europe (and to a lesser extent, medieval ME).

The left's main blindspot with anti-semitism is Israel, tbh. It's hard to walk the line of being anti-Zionist without absorbing some anti-semitic rhetoric (especially since middle eastern anti-Zionism is proudly anti-Semitic, as opposed to western versions of anti-Zionism), and that the left is willing to make common cause with Palestinian groups that are very anti-semitic, perhaps without being as critical of the anti-semitism as they should be.

 

[Psychoward]

You're falling into a common and unfortunate line here. Whenever someone tries to discuss the issue of anti-Semitism on the left, someone inevitably responds with this idea that it's just because people were criticizing Israel and got called anti-Semites.

But it's not a line, it's what I've experienced firsthand. If there is a problem with anti-semitism on the left, I've never personally witnessed it. That isn't saying that it doesn't exist, liberals can be anti-semites or racists or homophobes or any of that other nasty shit obviously. I was just posting my own anecdotal experience with it.

 

[CyclopsRock]

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

I don't think that's it, at all. Look at the Israel - Palestine issue, and ask yourself why it gets so much publicity compared to other conflicts of significantly greater scale, such as in Yemen or the countless civil wars that have dogged post-colonial Africa for the last ~50 years. The reason is pretty simple: America supports Israel.

And therein is the root of anti-antisemitism on the left (as distinct from on the right) - there's a part of the left that views Capitalism as the big evil that's the route cause of all suffering. Whatever the issue, if you trace it back far enough you get to capitalism. America is the single largest beacon of capitalism in the world, and it uses (more so in the past, but still now) it's enormous military hegemony to ensure capitalism remains viable. Ergo, America is the enemy. Ergo anyone or anything that opposes America is the enemy of my enemy, which is why you end up with leftists supporting states like Russia, Venezuela, Syria etc despite these countries treating their citizens (and especially minorities that the left is usually there to protect) so terribly. Israel's the ultimate example, because they're seen as a country that's stolen land and exists purely thanks to American support. This isn't really true, but as long as this is the received wisdom, Israel is verboten. It seems inconceivable, too, to them that Israel's support could come out of an American desire to see some sort of liberal democracy flourish in the Mid East, and so they conjure up these spectres of a secretive Israel "lobby" or cabal that pulls the strings, and therein lies the foundations for the idea that jews are this shadowy force that acts behind the scenes to orchestrate things to their own gain.

 

[Slayven]

Wha? I can't keep up.

all those "Identity politics is why you lost" hot takes from "True Progressives"

 

[Zap Rowsdower]

They weren't persecuted *like in Christian countries* but I assure you that they were forced to pay special taxes and often publicly humiliated. So yes, things were much better than in Christian countries but let's not lionize the way they were treated as anything vaguely like the modern definition of tolerant.

Yeah, that's true, sorry about that.

 

[Blizzard]

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

How does this work with Stalin / Hitler though? I would say Hitler and the Nazis in particular had other motives than being mad because they believed someone's distant relatives killed Jesus.

 

[God Dayumm]

But it's not a line, it's what I've experienced firsthand. If there is a problem with anti-semitism on the left, I've never personally witnessed it. That isn't saying that it doesn't exist, liberals can be anti-semites or racists or homophobes or any of that other nasty shit obviously. I was just posting my own anecdotal experience with it.

I agree with you. Even the example in the article is quite a stretch, a woman got called out on her white privilege and that is not anti-semitic at all even if she is Jewish.

 

[Psychoward]

I agree with you. Even the example in the article is quite a stretch, a woman got called out on her white privilege and that is not anti-semitic at all even if she is Jewish.

Speaking of lines, that's one I heard frequently. I went to Tulane which is very, very jewish and a large subset of the population believed jewish people did not and could not benefit from white privilege because they were jewish.

 

[Chuck Norris]

I don't think there is a blind spot at all, people are not focusing on anti semitism in the context of Charlottesville because the primary issue stemmed from African American racism and the statues. The relevance of anti semitism to Naziism is also extremely well documented and something every person in the Western world is educated about. There is no interesting insight in focusing on the Neo-Nazis being anti Semitic, it is a "no shit" sort of commentary

I'd also put forward that while anti semitism is a massive issue in other countries, it doesn't seem nearly as prevalent in the US and Jews certainly aren't dealing with the level of systemic and embedded discrimination that African Americans and LGBTQ communities are on a daily basis. Recognise it exists, yes, but it doesn't have to be the forefront of discussion when there are bigger issues

 

[Poodlestrike]

It all boils down to "They killed jesus", every single piece of antisemitism boils down to that. Remember that doesn't make it make sense, but makes you realize what you are dealing with.

There's some layers to it. It all started with "they killed Jesus," but over time other stuff got stapled onto that and eventually took on a life of its own. For instance, in medieval Europe, Jews were the only major moneylenders (since they were the only people who could actually make money through lending). Kings would organize pogroms when they decided they didn't want to pay their debts, which eventually led to the Evil Banker stereotype, but at the time they excused it with ye olde "killed Jesus" excuse. Jews were more literate (on average, because reading is/was a part of the Bar/Bat Mitzvah), so we got into media when the printing press became a thing, and became a target for the people in power that way.

 

[Breads]

Call me when the left starts killing jews.

This is a distraction.

 

[O Canada Our Home and Native Land]

Sorry man. The idea of Israel being responsible for anti semitisim, be it from Muslims or others is a fucking nonsense bullshit argument, created by anti-zionists.

All these countries had no issues with jews, but then within days of the country being created mobilized their armies against it to wipe it off the map? And won't even acknowledge it exists?

But you are telling me that weeks earlier they had no problem with Jews? Get the fuck outta here.

Yeah, if a jewish person wants your land that your people have lived in for centuries and you fight back, you are an anti-semite.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

all those "Identity politics is why you lost" hot takes from "True Progressives"

Yet they ignore poor Ruth..

 

[AcademicSaucer]

In Christian populations, sure. But even a lot of Atheists hate Jews, huge populations of Muslims do, leftists in countries which are neither Christian nor Muslim, like India, do. Its a bit more complicated than that. Most reasons of hating are bullshit of course and these people are assholes, but there are more reasons than they killed christ for sure.
Historically in Europe though, killed Christ has been the reason throughout the ages.

Also, read a great article sometimes back which said that apart from 'killed Jesus' thing, Christians also hated Jews because Jews refused to convert and accept Jesus as their lord and savior and what not, despite all these years etc. Jews were the ones who just wont conform and bow down. Makes sense.

I remember an ultra orthodox jew group having to leave central america because of conflict with mayan indians .

 

[Truant]

Most jews just look like regular ass white people to me. I have no idea how racists are able to single these people out.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I've never understood general hate and never will.

oh noes da juuuz are coming

get your lives together.

That being said, a lot of antipathy comes from Israel's handling of Palestine. The left won't stop being frustrated about that until it has a proper resolution that doesn't include terrorizing the people of Palestine. Thing is, when that issue is resolved amicably, the left who care will be fine with Israel, its residents and apologists.