"And then a bunch of eventful stuff happened that strengthened our bonds and showed just how much we'd changed as people but I won't tell you about any of it because this 80 hour game respects your time"
My copy arrived today and I've been mostly enjoying it so far. I didn't realize how heavily the Crossbell games would be referenced though it's made me more curious what is going on in Ao/Zero.
Almost done with Ch. 3 here. Still dislike a lot of characters (Alice, Juseus, Machias, etc...). They are just not clicking. MC is weak as well. On the plus side I really like the combat system here compared to TitS FC and SC.
"And then a bunch of eventful stuff happened that strengthened our bonds and showed just how much we'd changed as people but I won't tell you about any of it because this 80 hour game respects your time"
Almost done with Ch. 3 here. Still dislike a lot of characters (Alice, Juseus, Machias, etc...). They are just not clicking. MC is weak as well. On the plus side I really like the combat system here compared to TitS FC and SC.
Almost done with Ch. 3 here. Still dislike a lot of characters (Alice, Juseus, Machias, etc...). They are just not clicking. MC is weak as well. On the plus side I really like the combat system here compared to TitS FC and SC.
Well, for starters, it's Alisa, and Jusis. Every time you misspell their names I die a little inside. Even if Alisa was just a character I eyerolled at for nearly the whole game.
Also I can't post a Jusis counter screenshot while I'm at work fuuuuck
That's who I've been using to "explain" how damn good this series is to a couple of receptive friends (that and AWESOME MUSIC). It worked better than I'd hoped.
This was the fight that taught me Crescent Mirror was a good way to get an enemy to knock down their own HP. That is, if you don't accidentally switch someone else in first.
This was the fight that taught me Crescent Mirror was a good way to get an enemy to knock down their own HP. That is, if you don't accidentally switch someone else in first.
Well, for starters, it's Alisa, and Jusis. Every time you misspell their names I die a little inside. Even if Alisa was just a character I eyerolled at for nearly the whole game.
Also I can't post a Jusis counter screenshot while I'm at work fuuuuck
Normally I would care to post character names correctly, but in this particular case I pretty much fast forward/ignore these chars and will probably never bother to properly spell their names. Man, the downgrade in quality is quite harsh for both various characters and the MC coming from Trails in the Sky games. Oh, and lets not forget about instructor Sarah since we are talking about terrible chars in Trails.
For the orbment system, yes, could have been a bit more complex, but I'll take that considering the faster combat flow.
Normally I would care to post character names correctly, but in this particular case I pretty much fast forward/ignore these chars and will probably never bother to properly spell their names. Man, the downgrade in quality is quite harsh for both various characters and the MC coming from Trails in the Sky games. Oh, and lets not forget about instructor Sarah since we are talking about terrible chars in Trails.
For the orbment system, yes, could have been a bit more complex, but I'll take that considering the faster combat flow.
I can't get over how utterly wrong you are. It's kind of sad. I played through FC and SC with over 100 hours between the two, and your criticisms fall so flat in terms of your refusal to allow the cast to actually grow into themselves through the course of this game.
Not every single one of the characters is my favorite, but Alisa especially becomes more than what you're painting her into.
Normally I would care to post character names correctly, but in this particular case I pretty much fast forward/ignore these chars and will probably never bother to properly spell their names. Man, the downgrade in quality is quite harsh for both various characters and the MC coming from Trails in the Sky games. Oh, and lets not forget about instructor Sarah since we are talking about terrible chars in Trails.
For the orbment system, yes, could have been a bit more complex, but I'll take that considering the faster combat flow.
And what was wrong with alisa in chapter 3 again ? She did her job, you got insight on her troubles and saw perfectly why she is legitimatly troubled by what's going on in her familly .. those aren't just minor troubles especially when she has shown that she does listen to other and try to think by herself , once the prologue ended.
I honnestly suggest that you drop your expectations because that's the only thing that can preventing you from enjoying those characters.
I don't know, maybe the game just isn't for you? I don't really know how any of the characters are worse than their Sky counterparts though, those characters were dripping with early 2000s anime tropes and it took most of them way longer to break out of them.
Alisa is good at being a superb exposition dumper to mr. self-insert and that's about it. I totally get those complaints. And even Sara is mostly just annoying up until Chapter 4.
But Jusis? Jusis "Blue-Eyes White Blondie" Albarea? The guy who in Chapter 2 not only defeated his shadow and unlocked his true self
comes up with Rean's plan first, by himself, and intended to see if through alone?
Normally I would care to post character names correctly, but in this particular case I pretty much fast forward/ignore these chars and will probably never bother to properly spell their names. Man, the downgrade in quality is quite harsh for both various characters and the MC coming from Trails in the Sky games. Oh, and lets not forget about instructor Sarah since we are talking about terrible chars in Trails.
For the orbment system, yes, could have been a bit more complex, but I'll take that considering the faster combat flow.
yea, you need very high tolerance to survive this script. there is some good stuff in all this bloat, but you need to arm yourself with lots of patience and tolerance first, otherwise it's game over. i'm glad this isn't my first trails game. i know they can do better than this.
jusis isn't that bad. he grew on me and by the end he was one my favorites. i think his quotes are funny too. alisa requires more time in the oven. didn't really like her. i don't know if sarah had this annoying voice in the original. she's good endgame.
Tell me about it. Just redid that fight in nightmare and man it was tough.
By the end of the fight C is getting like nearly 3-4 turns in a row and I had no idea what to do at points. I barely scraped by on my third try and only because of Alisa's god tier MQ.
Normally I would care to post character names correctly, but in this particular case I pretty much fast forward/ignore these chars and will probably never bother to properly spell their names. Man, the downgrade in quality is quite harsh for both various characters and the MC coming from Trails in the Sky games. Oh, and lets not forget about instructor Sarah since we are talking about terrible chars in Trails.
For the orbment system, yes, could have been a bit more complex, but I'll take that considering the faster combat flow.
If you don't care for it by the end chapter 4, I'd recommend just dropping it at that point. It's where the plot actually starts to "get going," but it's pretty clear you're not enjoying yourself outside of the combat, so there's no need to push yourself to play it.
But regardless, I think there's a ton of stuff that CS1 does much better than FC, even though I agree with others here that FC's characters (the very few of them anyway) were stronger from the start.
I wouldn't say downgraded, but it's definitely simplified. There's a ton of orbments to replace the replace the fact that orbment combinations are gone, but I actually prefer this as this way you have much more flexibility in the way you can build your character's skills/arts
I am only at the beginning of chapter 3, but now I like nearly all characters.
Alisa, Jusus and Machias were the most annoying in the beginning but not only did they change you also learned where they're coming from.
Minimal character spoilers up until chapter 3:
I agree Alisa's tsundere act with slapping Rean and ignoring him was almost unbearable but at least every single character including herself acknowledged the whole time that it was actually her own fault. But after they made up she is a normal character and her family situation is indeed something she shouldn't tell everyone immediately.
Machias' and Jusus' conflict is supposed to be annoying, at least all other characters are also annoyed by them. The class battle is a major part of the general world building in this game so it's good to have it in a small form among the party members.
Holy shit at if you bring Emma with you on the bike ride. Apparently Vita Clotilde and Emma are part of some clan. And her bird's name is Granios (though I don't remember if she says it's name during the end of the game). I don't know if you get this cutscene during the first playthrough because it kinda just spoils a pretty massive plot twist. All these damn CS2 teases are killing me.
I feel like the only one that likes all the main characters and have done for most of the game
Only characters I've really disliked have been some of the Noble NPCs (though (Chapter 2 spoilers):
The sudden change in attitude on the request guy was hilarious when they spotted Jusis lol
) Most of the other NPCs have been pretty cool as well.
The antags are the only main characters I don't care much for but we don't really know too much about them or their motivations yet tbf. (up to Chapter 6 now so unless that changes in this game...)
I am only at the beginning of chapter 3, but now I like nearly all characters.
Alisa, Jusus and Machias were the most annoying in the beginning but not only did they change you also learned where they're coming from.
I agree Alisa's tsundere act with slapping Rean and ignoring him was almost unbearable but at least every single character including herself acknowledged the whole time that it was actually her own fault. But after they made up she is a normal character and her family situation is indeed something she shouldn't tell everyone immediately.
Machias' and Jusus' conflict is supposed to be annoying, at least all other characters are also annoyed by them. The class battle is a major part of the general world building in this game so it's good to have it in a small form among the party members.
Holy shit at if you bring Emma with you on the bike ride. Apparently Vita Clotilde and Emma are part of some clan. And her bird's name is Granios (though I don't remember if she says it's name during the end of the game). I don't know if you get this cutscene during the first playthrough because it kinda just spoils a pretty massive plot twist. All these damn CS2 teases are killing me.
Using Machias as a debuffer equipped with status-inducing quartz (plus the Juggler master quartz, another status-inducing one) wrecks mobs. I love using him now.
Yay! (I know I'm not the only one, people are very rarely 'alone' in their opinions which is why I used the words "feel like" haha)
How long is the final chapter for people who have completed the game? I'm on Field Study Day 1 of Chapter 6 and wondering how long I have left pretty much. (I have a good idea of how long I'll be on Chapter 6 based on the last few Chapters and their field studies lol)
Yay! (I know I'm not the only one, people are very rarely 'alone' in their opinions which is why I used the words "feel like" haha)
How long is the final chapter for people who have completed the game? I'm on Field Study Day 1 of Chapter 6 and wondering how long I have left pretty much. (I have a good idea of how long I'll be on Chapter 6 based on the last few Chapters and their field studies lol)
Final Chapter is definitely by far the longest chapter. I'd say from where you are, maybe a solid 15 hours left give or take a few hours depending on how fast you're going through the story (like doing all the field study quests or not, getting recipes/fish/etc.)
Final Chapter is definitely by far the longest chapter. I'd say from where you are, maybe a solid 15 hours left give or take a few hours depending on how fast you're going through the story (like doing all the field study quests or not, getting recipes/fish/etc.)
Some of the characters were annoying or a bit weaker at first, but after going through the game seeing everyone's bonding events (especially the final one) & growth throughout the game, they really do get much, much better by the end. Even people who were super-annoying whiners at first like Machias end up being pretty good & likable by the end (his final bonding event was probably one of the better ones, imho). And this is coming from someone who hated him so much through much of the first playthrough that I didn't use his character in combat at all and only watched the mandatory bonding events with him (that update his character note).
All in all, the weakest characters with any importance in this game are Gaius (he's likable, but so far is a bit boring & doesn't have much of a role past Chapter 3), Millium (even if she has a few good moments, characters like her can just go die in a fire -_- and Angelica. Angelica's character just goes too far without being the least bit funny/charming/good-with-words like other pervs like Olivier. She just constantly physically & verbally sexually harasses several (even underage) characters. She's too direct & handsy with that shit. The only slightly redeeming factor for her is (late game spoilers)
her standing up to her noble fuckwad of a father and the somewhat sad consequences it has for her.
Apart from that I can't come to like her even a little bit.
@Famassu: B-but... I love Angelica. It's always nice to have a perv in the group (but not in real life), although I admit Olivier is the better, smoother one between the two.
So for shits and giggles I went back to the save before (Final Chapter Spoilers)
choosing your dance partner
and though I chose
Laura
the first time and really liked the interaction I think I might make my canon choice
Sara
because they handled it REALLY well. I think if you do that choice it actually feels realistic that
Rean crushes on her and she actually kinda likes him too, and the reveals as well as Rean telling her she's still young enough to enjoy her life were just nicely written (and surprising considering Japan's treatment off women like Sara)
.
Time to see the others. I bet
I still don't learn shit about Emma, you big jerk.
CS1 Tier List (Everything unlocked, full game spoilers, vs. bosses only, grouped not sorted):
Factor in teamwork just as much as individual strength S+ Tier:
Laura, Emma S Tier:
Rean, Jusis, Machias,
CS1 Tier List (Everything unlocked, full game spoilers, vs. bosses only, grouped not sorted):
Factor in teamwork just as much as individual strength S+ Tier:
Laura, Emma S Tier:
Rean, Jusis, Machias,
CS1 Tier List (Everything unlocked, full game spoilers, vs. bosses only, grouped not sorted):
Factor in teamwork just as much as individual strength S+ Tier:
Laura, Emma S Tier:
Rean, Jusis, Machias,
It's a bit hard to rank them at that point since "most suited" can range from person to person.
Like it's obvious that Laura/Rean/Emma are some of the bests regardless, but after that point it's almost up for grabs due to the flexible customization.
It's totally possible to get the platinum on the second run unless you missed out on some character notes (like some chapters have 4 bonding points for 5 characters that'll update your character notes). I don't think I have the patience to run through it three times, but good luck to you then lol.
