My biggest issue with the Divine Beast Dungeons were that all the shrines were mini tutorials for them, but it felt like they were too scared to make the puzzles more complex in fear for the player getting stuck. So the dungeons only changed the scale of the puzzles not the difficulty.
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chaobreaker
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The last memory (with the trees) has me completely stumped. It's the most vague one from what I can interpret. Can someone give me a vague hint of where its at? Does the painter guy know where it is nearby?
They do make it shorter on purpose
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Also, I disliked how segmented they were. The best Zelda dungeons had one central puzzle which you continually found new ways of solving by approaching it from different angles - something like the central column of Lakebed Temple, the flipping floors of the GOAT Stone Temple, the timeshift stones of the Mining Facility. In BotW, dungeons are just... a collection of rooms. The puzzles aren't interwoven at all, they're just a few entirely separate (quite easy) puzzles that happen to be relatively near one another. Quite disappointing.
I do think there's a valid point that the typical 9 major dungeons of the series isn't as good a fit as it used to be. In design terms, that's an enormous amount of effort that would pull from the quality of the open world rather than just the shrines, and now that the re-realization of Zelda as fundamentally about exploration has been reached, that would be a shame. Additionally, I get the point that you don't want to break the flow of the world too much.
But I think the sweet spot on this had actually already been reached in a past Zelda title: Majora's Mask, which had the most challenging overworld in terms of traversal of any past 3D Zelda title and also had a strong focus on something not juts dungeon-y that the dungeons would break the flow of if overused. Majora's Mask has 3 outstanding dungeons, all contenders for the best in the series, that are moderately longer than the series norm and feature difficult, engaging, and interesting boses. It also has Woodfall Temple, which is still good for an introductory dungeon but obviously struggles given OoT had the Deku Tree - but this is an aside.
I'd like to see BotW go for that. They already realized 4 was probably the sweet spot in terms of the number of the Divine Beasts, but they didn't realize (or ran out of time) on the depth of design of the Divine Beasts. The best thing about Majora's Mask is that it actually has really complex dungeons - in terms of your ability, they're probably the most demanding in the 3D titles. Why? Because Majora's Mask tests all your skills in the overworld. You have to be reasonably good with the Goron Mask just to access Snowhead. That means Snowhead itself can just go all out. By contrast, the first 50% of all TP's dungeon content is a tutorial for the last 50%, which can be a bit grating.
Because BotW tests you extensively in the overworld, the Divine Beasts could really have gone all out, secure in the knowledge that you could handle them.
I don't think there's a Korok seed there, but it's a good place to farm upgrade materials. A bit challenging during nighttime, though.
Conor_Fool
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Not to mention the name is only one character off from my favorite character in Windwaker! And my favorite song as well.
Couldn't believe there was nothing but a shitload of Skeletons when I visited
Skeletos311
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Check the stable near Hyrule field. I didn't encounter the painter there, but it is nearby
Wolfgang Jr
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Yeah, 5 star speed horse is an absolute gangster.
Jim_Cacher
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Fire type is good for making a campfire.
Wolfgang Jr
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ReConstructDead
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Conor_Fool
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Pro tip: Every time you encounter multiple guardians, whether intentially or randomly, save your game. And then save after every guardian you kill to make sure. The timing is relatively simple, but if you fuck up you don't want to lose every shield in your inventory. You'll perfect the parry in no time
Guardians are easy as hell for me now, so I only save beforehand if I'm about to fight a fat mob of them.
There are a couple of waterfalls where if you stand near the edge just right, Link falls under the surface and can walk along the ground as if there is no water at all (and there is notit is a flat texture you can still see if you look up).
Yeah, found that one as well. I few towards it to climb it, but few right through it instead lol
Beyond that, the game has hardly any errors, which is really impressive for such a big game. Could that be a consequence of the through physics system in play?
114 hours. Completed everything except the Korok seeds.
It's funny, while I was playing I was swinging between "this is the best game ever!" and "this is not what I wanted". Now that I am done. I can say this is one of the best Zelda games ever. The ending was so good because it was a culmination of everything you did concentrated into one point. It was beautiful. The story was surprisingly good when all is said and done. Yeah there are things that I would have liked done differently. But i love what is there. It's brilliant.
It's funny, while I was playing I was swinging between "this is the best game ever!" and "this is not what I wanted". Now that I am done. I can say this is one of the best Zelda games ever. The ending was so good because it was a culmination of everything you did concentrated into one point. It was beautiful. The story was surprisingly good when all is said and done. Yeah there are things that I would have liked done differently. But i love what is there. It's brilliant.
Manny Calavera
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I like them a lot as well and they really feel like worth looking for. I've been looking for the last three of them forever and finally found one last night, the one in the forest so two more to go. I've played around 110h so far and completed all the dungeons, around 90 shrines and ~170 Korok seeds.
Does the painter ever reappear to the same stables after he first gave you the clue? I've feeling I've missed couple of his clues at some point in the game and I've hard time now finding the last two memories.
The game needs more Story period. But what's there is really beautiful.
This is really Zelda's story through and through. She is an awesome character.
Her diary adds a lot to the story too.
Majukun
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if it's the one on its own island there are several chests with good stuff around
we should have had a lot more memories in the game, both to give a reward for finding specific places other than just a Korok seed or two... but also to flesh out more the characters and old hyrule... it would add a lot more 'gravitas' to actually know what the Kingdom like before Ganon did his job.
Chinbo37
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Ya that's the one.
Good stuff like armor or good stuff like swords and stuff?
I just dropped down to the basement ...
Majukun
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sword and stuff,
since you already found the basement
Chinbo37
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Thanks just wasn't sure if I needed to explore every inch of the maze itself
jwillenn
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I know the feeling. I've been playing since launch (still haven't finished it) and every session opens my mouth :O and has me saying out loud stuff like "this is incredible". I went from being fed up with 3D Zelda games and Skyward Sword making me feel like I should wait for impressions and watch portions of playthroughs before buying the next one, to this is the best Adventure I've had in all my time of gaming.
Kiddy Dong
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Anyone else keep silly stuff in their house instead of powerful weapons and whatnot? I have a mop, a soup ladle, and the first tree branch you get outside the resurrection chamber framed in my house.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Quoting myself from earlier as today I found a new Lynel in the Hebra region (not one of the two next to each other) that I approached with the same cockiness. Casually pulled one my many Lynel shields from one of his many fallen brethren and this Lynel smashed through three of them with no problem.
It was then that I knew I wanted that crusher he was wielding as it very obviously outmatched the one from his brother in the Eldin region. Dodge his ground smash multiple times and twice the shock wave broke my shields.
I have his crusher now and it is a goddamn beast.
(Spoilers if you don't have the complete story yet.)
After 130+ hours, I took the "intended" road to Hateno Village past Fort Hateno for the very first time. To travel this road "late" in the game had its own merits, since
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After 130+ hours, I took the "intended" road to Hateno Village past Fort Hateno for the very first time. To travel this road "late" in the game had its own merits, since
I now knew that that was the very location where Link failed in the battle 100 years ago. I believe the horse training ground behind it also got a bit more meaning in that context
Patrick Bateman
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Goddamn is the Yiga Clan hideout annoying. :/
HawthorneKitty
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Banana
Bedameister
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It was pretty easy imo. But I also wanted to rush through as fast as possible.
Spukc
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banana?
Lupin the Third
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I had to look up at least one terminal on each dungeon, so either I'm a complete idiot or they're not as stupid-easy as people like to keep calling them. Maybe the people saying this adore puzzles. I think they get tedious very fast.
I am man enough to admit that 3D puzzles are a pain in my mind because they are hard to see the whole picture of when you are stuck inside them and have to manipulate a video game camera on a 2D TV set to look around. This is part of why I generally prefer 2D Zelda dungeons. Explaining where I was in the camel dungeon and how it all worked to my wife took like 20 minutes in and of itself.
I am man enough to admit that 3D puzzles are a pain in my mind because they are hard to see the whole picture of when you are stuck inside them and have to manipulate a video game camera on a 2D TV set to look around. This is part of why I generally prefer 2D Zelda dungeons. Explaining where I was in the camel dungeon and how it all worked to my wife took like 20 minutes in and of itself.
Patrick Bateman
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Welp, just realised it.
I started to battle each and everyone.
Now I just threw some bananas left and right and beat the boss 1st try...
Triforce141
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Yiga Clan are fanatics over bananas
I think that island is meant as a callback to Wind Waker.
When you meet the Deku Tree in that game, he is covered in Chus and you have to kill them all.
Wow, never thought to try that! Can't believe I've put so many hours into the game and still learning stuff like that.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Lol glitched world (spoilers for Hyrule castle boss and like everything)
https://youtu.be/Y0bdTezkeHc
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