One of those offers the ability to play all future Switch games.
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One of those offers the ability to play all future Switch games.
It will be even harder when they compare the metacritic scores.
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Deleted member 752119
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I doubt there are any areas it will run/look better on Wii U given the Edge review comments.
That said, I had similar logic--though with stronger incentive as I'm not yet convinced I'll ever want a Switch due to the hybrid concept having no appeal to me as someone who hates portables.
$47.99 plus tax after GCU (already have a Wii U and pro controller) just makes more sense for me given that, and that there are no other must plays announced yet for Switch for me. Mario is the closest, but I'm not that into platformers anymore.
Yeah, it's definitely not ugly.
I'm just not a fan of cartoony artstyles. I like more realistic graphics in non-realistic settings like Horizon and Witcher 3 personally as they aid my immersion which is the main reason I play those types of games. The stronger narrative focus, dialogue trees, lots of (well done) voice acting etc. also adds to the immersion for me.
BOTW is still a nice looking game, technical limitations aside, and I'm sure I'll have a blast with it like I do most Zelda games. Just unlikely I'll like it more than things like Witcher 3, Horizon etc. due to art style perferences and the other stuff I mentioned. But that's just down to different reasons for playing games and many prefer Zelda and it's art style and more gameplay-driven focus.
ElzarTheBam
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There's a reason why even the original WW still looks amazing.
Art style used right ages slowly.
Jonneh3003
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Yeah this is a bunch of nothing. He doesn't mention gameplay outside of AI and even then I disagree, the AI seems incredible. It's so weird to me that someone can hold this small tablet-esque device running a massive open world game and go "the textures suck".
The perfect Dark
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You listed the framerate as the same. This is not correct. Edge says the final WiiU version framerate can dip into the teens and that the Switch one does not (dips into the 20s).
There is no better lighting/bloom/contrast on the WiiU edition.
brandonh83
Banned
So, it's fine that the graphics/resolution isn't your thing. What's less fine is accusing everyone that doesn't give that much of a shit about that and are more interested in its art style and game design of wearing "rose tinted glasses" and ready to give it a pass just because it's Zelda.
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit. People don't give Zelda a pass because it's Zelda. That's a load of complete fuckery. Look at the Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword backlash. And those aren't the only two susceptible to criticism.
I see, thanks for the replies, never really seen an official pro controller in person so wouldn't be able to tell them apart at a glance.
LegendofLex
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The nice thing about TWW is it didn't try to use detailed textures, so even its relatively simple geometry looks nice.
But there are definitely some warts in its presentation - especially when you look at the draw distance and pop-in while at sea. These issues still haven't really been fixed, even in the HD remake. I'd argue it's actually worse now that you can sail more quickly, which makes these issues more noticeable and has also occasionally led to some bad slowdown when approaching complex areas on your boat.
I'd hope the problems with BotW's presentation could be solved 5-10 years later.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Flat textures, low resolution, 4/10. Preorder cancelled, come on Nintendo this is 2017.
This was my exact reasoning. Itd be different if the switch had more than just one game I want to play at launch. I can just wait until the holidays on it and still get my Zelda fix. I dont mind, Im actually looking forward to seeing them push the WiiU as far as they can.
yeah there's certainly more going on technically in other games
as far as the graphics as a whole go it's really up to personal taste. I'm actually struggling to think of another game from this gen that's as beautiful as BotW.
yeah that was my main issue. he's basically trying to invalidate the opinions of people like jason schreier, dan ryckert, etc. and put himself on some kind of pedestal. I'm not sure if that guy has to brush shoulders with his peers at industry events or anything but it just seemed like a childish and unprofessional thing to post.
JaseMath
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Goddamn.
Twilight Princess
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The switch version is confirmed to have better textures and draw distance, possibly frame rate as well.
ThanksVision
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I'll be playing Super Mario Odyssey on my Wii U, thank you.
Jonneh3003
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I'm so impressed with how the Wii U version looks. They really pushed that little box to its limits.
EDIT: Ah, you removed the embed. Still shitty though, didn't really want to see that.
Neoleo2143
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Those are definitely Lynels, or at least some variant of them.
brandonh83
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Discomurf
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That's true - but this logic is for those who only care about Zelda right now (like me). I'm going to hold of the Switch for a bit until the library grows. I'm not hating, this will be my first Nintendo console/handheld since the N64 I don't have on day 1.
Audioboxer
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Yeah, if you've already got a Wii U you shouldn't feel pressured into blowing a ton of money on a Switch. However, if you're getting a Switch you might as well play the superior copy.
Cucurbitacée
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Not textures, but less pop-in and more stable frame rate.
Couchaddict
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Is gearbest.com safe/real?!
gamerMan
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I think we will see a lot of reviews like this There are people that are going to wear their rosy glasses but there are also people who are going to go in "trying" to find something to hate about it simply because it is Zelda. And there is a lot not to like in terms of presentation. When compared to Horizon, Zelda does looks very dated on a technical level. We've heard the voice acting is also not very good.
Zelda is a game that will never be able to be reviewed in a vacuum, partly because Nintendo has released so many landmark games in the series. It's not like Zelda gets a pass simply because it's Zelda. That's reductive. Nintendo has worked hard to keep this series relevant by constantly reinventing what a Zelda game is. How many series on PS4 or Xbox One will last for 30+ years? For many people, this is going to be the game that you dreamed you were playing as a kid.
Also much has to be said about the hype levels. Zelda has a huge amount of hype going in where with Horizon Zero Dawn most of us had low expectations. It will be a lot easier to give Horizon Zero Dawn a pass for things it is not doing well like the human AI.
If you believe that next generation games are about polygons, anti aliasing, and pixel counting, Zelda is going to disappoint as Nintendo's hardware won't be able to keep up. If you believe next gen game play is improvements in game design, physics, freedom of choice,then you will love getting lost in the world.
Skittzo0413
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I second this plea. I'm kinda living here now until at least Wednesday, please don't post anymore spoilers like the one above. I turned off embedded images though, I suggest everyone do that if you don't wanna be spoiled.
Cucurbitacée
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Hey, another embargo broken!
It's not ugly by any means and will most likely look quiet beautiful on the Switch in handheld mode, due to rendering at the native resolution of that screen. But its strongly stylized elements (characters) are mixed with things that simply don't look too hot when seeing them up close and in person. All the .gifs do a good job of hiding the less sexy parts of it's visuals. Those being some blurry, low res textures etc.. Take those bushes in your .gif and have a close look at them on the big screen. You'll find they're a rather blurry mess.
Those elements should be easy to ignore, but they're there all the same. People who cannot get over it won't enjoy the game the same way other who can will.
Discomurf
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This game is a marvel even technically, amazing use of WiiU / Switch hardware,
but according to Giuseppe Nelva, it seems that does not count the hardware it runs on.
I imagine that if he should review a 3ds masterpiece, he would give a 0/10,
cause dont't look at the content, but the fact that on a gaming PC there are better graphics.
Opinions.
but according to Giuseppe Nelva, it seems that does not count the hardware it runs on.
I imagine that if he should review a 3ds masterpiece, he would give a 0/10,
cause dont't look at the content, but the fact that on a gaming PC there are better graphics.
Opinions.
Pharaoh 117
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Cucurbitacée;231125020 said:
Does the lighting and cell shading look the same on both on the final version?
I'm on blackout right now.
I don't think people give it a pass because it's Zelda, they give it a pass because most realize Switch is literally a handheld with TV out, and can't possibly compete with a modern console in terms of the technical merits of its visuals.
At least, not without costing significantly more.
At least, not without costing significantly more.
Hey can you maybe fix that quote??????
I really really really wanted the Switch with Zelda but with all my bills and finding out I owe on my tax returns, I can't justify buying a new console yet.
I also have a 1.5 hour commute each way on trains which would have been ideal for the Switch version but oh well.
Neoleo2143
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I'd like to add a counterpoint to the voice acting. Chris Carter of Destructoid and Gamexplain's reviewers seem to really like the Voice work. It's not a definite "voice acting is bad".
I don't think there's an issue with trying to look for flaws but its important to acknowledge that bias and many reviewers have admitted to that with this game that they're actively trying to find flaws and can only find a few which is impressive needless to say.
FreedomFighter
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He said nothing about the gameplay. And seems to be throwing some serious shade at fans of the series with the "rose-tinted glasses" comment. Seems to hating and a contrarian just for the sake of it. Kind of rubs me the wrong way that his only qualms were with the graphics and the 'this isn't last gen' tone doesn't help.
Astral Dog
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Uhhh
. Uncharted 4? Bloodborne? FFXV? Witcher 3? Ratchet and Clank? Xenoblade X? Sunset Overdrive?
Unless you mean only cel shaded thats a bit weird
Because BotW uses gyro, you won't be able to use the Pro Controller on Wii U.
I think
And you're basing the lighting off of the E3 preview build, when the game has clearly eliminated them to have a better framerate. Right...
This is another reason why I can't take the guy seriously. I did a very quick search for "Dualshockers Uncharted Golden Abyss" and the first result has the same guy praising that game's (admittedly great) graphics for a handheld game. Why is he judging the game's graphics entirely on the fact that you can, if you want, play it on your TV?
bloodborne is a good call. still prefer the look of BotW. the others? nah, not for me
You're removing the idea that the reviewer himself isn't entertaining their own biases for the console (or brand) of their choosing or liking. You don't have to be a fan of a particular game to have bias influence your review, you could simply have a bias towards the opposing company. You critique Nintendo fans for said bias, but fail to acknowledge the bias that DOES exists for other companies.
Cucurbitacée
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Yes, they are the same. The only real difference of the Switch build is the better environmental audio. Everything else better on the Switch is because of the hardware( faster loading time, less clipping and less frame drops).
OrbitalBeard
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Gyro is optional. Aonuma stated the entire game can be played on Wii U with the Pro Controller.
Gyro is optional