Cucurbitacée
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Maybe the embargo is different for printed press, after all the Edge critic is already known. But the enemy shown here was definitely on the embargo list for the Youtubers.
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Preview Thread
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There are definitely times that I think it looks really nice, like in your gif. I also think character models (including enemies and animals) look good. But there's a lot of times, more often >30ft away from Link than close up, that I think it looks pretty terrible. Lighting is also inconsistent, sometimes looking pretty beautiful, and sometimes looking washed out and lacking. The low amount of geometry also hurts, I think.
We often talk about how much art style matters over graphics quality, but graphics quality can 100% make an art style better.
CharminUltra
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Will the wonders ever end with this game.
BluePigGaming
Neo Member
I thought he was talking about the structure of the game itself
I'm not going to attack someone for an opinion of game I haven't played but I'm not too worried about it either given the wealth of reports saying otherwise.
There goes the 95+ though
Well, it looks like you don't have to worry about that. He says in one of the comments that he isn't reviewing the game.
I'm used to obsessing over visual perfection with my PC and sitting up close to a monitor, I really don't think I'll have an issue with this game running at 900p on a properly calibrated TV while sitting six feet away. Naturally I know everyone has different setups and that will impact their tolerance.
This game does need texture filtering bad, though. I'm hoping for a graphics patch.
He mentioned personal taste so for you to list other beautiful games doesn't contradict his statement. I think all of those games are spectacles and Zelda carves its own niche.
Jonneh3003
Banned
All look fantastic but none of them are as visually appealing as Breath of the Wild in my personal opinion. Better textures and technical performance for sure (maybe not Xenoblade X) but in terms of pure beauty BotW wins for me. Like FFXV looks brilliant but there's not really anything distinct about it, Bloodborne is the only game that rivals Zelda for me.
brandonh83
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Red flags all over the place. It's apparently hard for a lot of people to have an opinion without trying to drag others through the mud in a weak effort to prop up how they personally feel.
Discomurf
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Broken Hope
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The complete lack of AA or any sort of decent texture filtering.
Stop talking about the dualshockers dude. He could review the game and give it a 1/10 for all I care. He has different priorities and he has his own opinions. Yeah, his arguments are pretty shitty, and he is demeaning a lot of other reviewers, but that's on him. And if it lowers the MC, so what? Were you all pumped to play Zelda with a 95+ MC but just won't be able to find the same fun if it's 92 or lower?
The start of the DualShockers post was a valid criticism, but then he started to talk about "rose tinted glasses" and "not giving zelda a pass" and it started to sound like an excuse to give the game a bad score and generate clicks. If he needs to make excuses that even doesn't make sense because only 2 reviews leaked until now, it says a lot about his intentions.
I want criticism in reviews to not be disappointed when I play the game, but criticize the game and not other reviewers.
I want criticism in reviews to not be disappointed when I play the game, but criticize the game and not other reviewers.
Because he's a professional reviewer, so his opinion is important no matter what he says
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Criticism of technical image quality in a Nintendo game in 2017 seems so... is pointless the word I'm looking for? We all know what Nintendo is going for at this point. We know they place art and gameplay over texture and resolution. They've done it this way for two generations now.
My default expectation for Nintendo games is that I'm getting a cohesive, tailored experience, not that it will be packed with more texture detail than I will ever appreciate. That's Nintendo's "thing" now, and everyone should be fairly wise to it.
We don't watch Star Wars for the Oscar-caliber acting performances, you know?
Anyone feeling the need to run Zelda through the mud for resolution and texture shortcomings is either not paying attention to Nintendo or feeling the expectional need to be heard, IMO.
My default expectation for Nintendo games is that I'm getting a cohesive, tailored experience, not that it will be packed with more texture detail than I will ever appreciate. That's Nintendo's "thing" now, and everyone should be fairly wise to it.
We don't watch Star Wars for the Oscar-caliber acting performances, you know?
Anyone feeling the need to run Zelda through the mud for resolution and texture shortcomings is either not paying attention to Nintendo or feeling the expectional need to be heard, IMO.
Vampirolol
Member
I don't know if I'm more hyped for the game or the review thread. So many grey nicknames...
Oh.
Eh...not really worth getting a Pro Controller for, IMO.
I am glad the Switch Pro Controller has all of that stuff built in, though.
Man, it's crazy that you don't think Ratchet and Clank is as visually appealing. It's even stylized to the extent that BOTW is with a very cohesive art style, and it's technically leaps and bounds above BOTW.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
There's nothing distinct about Rachet & Clank?
Jonneh3003
Banned
It's very sad when a professional critic sounds like a GAF troll. Just do your job of being an open minded critic rather than comparing the visuals of a native Wii U game to that of Horizon Zero Dawn.
ASilentProtagonist
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One of the few games where i'm genuinely looking forward to the reviews.
OrbitalBeard
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Ratchet & Clank looks like a Dreamworks / Illumination film. So yeah, I don't find it appealing either. It's technically impressive, for sure.
You mean Splatoon and MK8?
Trying to launch an old man
I love that NPC reaction at the background lol.
Yea, can folks in this thread make a pact to not try and discredit reviewers based on their score when the review thread goes up, and try to talk down any who do? I have a feeling the US Gamer review is gonna start an avalanche of shit posts, while others will be digging through old reviews of the one 6 the game gets.
I agree with the general sentiment that you are your own reviewer, as many of my favorite games are sitting on low 70s MCs. Just read their points and see if you find that in your play through, or if what they said resonates with you and what you want out of the game, maybe wait and see. Laugh off stuff like the dual shockers stuff, it's not even worth it.
I agree with the general sentiment that you are your own reviewer, as many of my favorite games are sitting on low 70s MCs. Just read their points and see if you find that in your play through, or if what they said resonates with you and what you want out of the game, maybe wait and see. Laugh off stuff like the dual shockers stuff, it's not even worth it.
yeah exactly. not trying to be controversial or anything but something like U4, while impressive in its own right, just doesn't really appeal to me artistically. realism rarely does for me. I'll look at the incredibly detailed world and technical aspects of the game and sort of come away like "yep, that's what a forest looks like".
the facial animation stuff in ND games is seriously impressive though, TLoU and U4 blew me away in that regard. but the graphics as a whole? ehhh
Jonneh3003
Banned
Whoops I was referring to FFXV when I meant visuals not being distinct, Ratchet and Clank is dripping with charm and there are few games that feel as visually alive as it. I simply prefer the art style Breath of the Wild achieves. I think each game that was brought up looks amazing.
I disagree. The "problem" with BOTW is that alot of the textures have a hint of realism in them mixed with the cel shade in other areas. Sometimes it looks beautiful, othertimes ugly. Ratchet and Clank doesnt have much of those so kinda a lower ceiling, higher floor type thing.
One of those is still a new game.
Skittzo0413
Member
One of the things that seems 2017-level (or beyond) technically about Zelda is the animation. Some of Link's animations look weird because they don't want to remove player control at any time (so a design choice) but all of the enemies, NPCs, and animals have extremely detailed and impressive animations from everything I've seen.
Moreso than many other games I've seen recently.
Moreso than many other games I've seen recently.
Deckard Chapel
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Incidentally, isn't dualshockers a primarily PlayStation site?
As in they usually review PlayStation titles more favorably? I could be mistaken here.
Jawbreaker
Member
Nothing wrong with having a preferred art style. I see people with the opposite opinion all the time, so there's no reason why this one can't exist, too.
I've heard this said about quite a few of the Zelda games, but I've come to a realization lately that makes me think that it's absolutely not rose-tinted glasses that make people love Zelda even when it's not at its best.
The games are designed differently from anything out there. It's the only 3D series my wife can play confidently and have fun with. There's a sort of accessibility that other games just don't have. It's that Nintendo factor.
That being said, no idea if it will be here with BotW, but I hope so.
This one is funny, he could've just grab those metal chests with the magnet runeProblem solving
Cucurbitacée
Member
Sure.
Sometimes I over think a problem.This one is funny, he could've just grab those metal chests with the magnet rune
This one is funny, he could've just grab those metal chests with the magnet rune
Where's the fun in that?
exactly. and to be clear my main gripe with that dualshockers post was his high and mighty attitude and attempted undermining of the opinions of his peers around the industry. as I've said a few times already it was both childish and unprofessional.
Jawbreaker
Member
Yeah, it comes off as dismissive — as if the game can't be fantastic on its own merits, without relying on a player's nostalgia or whatever.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I agree with you, Ratchet and Clank is consistently stunning whereas Uncharted 4's visuals took a back seat as the game went on. I started off being wowed with every small detail but as the hours clocked by I was less interested in the technical achievement and more interested in the gameplay. Facial animations were always a joy to watch though.
I think I prefer more abstract art styles, realism is only impressive initially for me.
kunonabi
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Other than being ugly? No, not really.
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Deleted member 752119
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You're over thinking it in the extent that everyone just has their own opinions and things the value/care about in games, be it professional reviewers or random posters on forums like GAF.
No one is wrong for being critical of Nintendo as they love their gameplay but hate that they keep doing underpowered hardware and art styles they dislike.
No one is wrong for loving the art styles etc. that Nintendo does and disliking more realistic graphics.
Different strokes for different folks and all that. I mean I get your point that it is what it is with Nintendo at this point. Hell, the Switch may end up the first Nintendo platform (other than virtual boy) that I don't own due to that and just slowly accepting I don't like enough of what they do anymore to shell out for their hardware that also doesn't fit my preferences. But I still have every right to express disappointment as someone who grew up on Nintendo and misses the "now you're playing with power" days when we got their incredible gameplay on decently powered consoles and were regularly wowed by them pushing graphics with things like the FX chip, the DKC games, pushing 3D with Mario 64 et al etc.
FreedomFighter
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What was the second review? I just know of the Edge one.
Jawbreaker
Member
Fair enough!
Pathetic lol. But he also said he isn't the one making the review.
Cucurbitacée
Member
GamePro (German magazine) 94/100.