fake might not have been the right word. i don't know of any game that uses the real ray tracing method. only the voxel cone approach, which is an approximation.
The Making Of Uncharted 4 - Pushing Technical Boundaries
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fake might not have been the right word. i don't know of any game that uses the real ray tracing method. only the voxel cone approach, which is an approximation.
Tripolygon
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They've done several technical-like talks. They did one at PSX and several at GDC, check on youtube. This is a promotion/marketing video.
Ray tracing is also an approximation.
Lys Skygge
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Does the E3 footage look a little better now than it did before to anyone else? I haven't seen the E3 footage in a few months so I could be imagining things 
it just looks so damn good!
it just looks so damn good!if we're being pedantic, then it is an approximation of reality, yes.
from what i understand though, voxel cone tracing is a cheaper approximation of ray tracing. hence why we're even seeing anything like it real time atm.
Ninja Sharingan
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Looks amazing, can not wait to play it! the section shooting at the truck, I just see a huge reticle in the middle of the screen. I hope those sections arent just hold down R2 to shoot
LordOcidax
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The level of detail is God tier. ND and EAD Tokyo, Retro are the best in the business. Nothing come close to this guys in that department.
Not if you've seen the recent story trailer.
Not really any.
Well, tuxfool replied to you, but I'll just say that The Tomorrow Children does use ray traced global illumination if I'm not mistaken. The technique is called Cascaded Voxel Cone Ray Tracing, I think.
Looks about the same to me. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's the same footage.Does the E3 footage look a little better now than it did before to anyone else? I haven't seen the E3 footage in a few months so I could be imagining things
Thanks, so it's a pretty disappointing video I guess, but not spoilery, ND can't win here
Does the E3 footage look a little better now than it did before to anyone else? I haven't seen the E3 footage in a few months so I could be imagining things
Nah, same footage as E3. Would love to see an updated build of that section. The latest footage really reduced the artifacting caused by their AA solution, which was present at E3
You can't win when there's a bunch of enthusiastic forum dwellers who want to know the engine inside out and demand new footage every time.Thanks, so it's a pretty disappointing video I guess, but not spoilery, ND can't win here
No, that is actually not quite the same thing. Along with SVOTI and VXGI I suppose you could call it an approximation of ray tracing.
Oh, I see. Sorry, my bad. So the technique used in The Tomorrow Children is still voxel cone based?
Mr.Marston
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VeryNicePerson
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Bonus mode with unlockable skins and outfits please. Also, bring back Drake's finest outfit for the singleplayer too. (it's a pre-order bonus for the multiplayer)
blastprocessor
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Man that was meh.
Was expecting something more technical with deeper insight.
Was expecting something more technical with deeper insight.
Yes. I don't see any reason for them to change, the voxel based GI solution seems like a fundamental component of their engine.
And it looks so damn good.
Indeed, thanks for the clarification. I read the technical slides long before I knew much about global illumination and I must have misinterpreted it.
Wow, transitions smooth like butter.
If you mean bounce light from environment to the car it's usually done with baked environment-map probes,
Didn't notice any case where the light hitting the car would bounce into the environment,
They do seem to have a bounce light for flashlights. (better than what they had on TloU)
This is separate method and most likely do not have anything to do how they bake the ambient/bounce light to their environment.
This is mostly the part I'm wondering the most about. Is the bounce light from the flashlight some form of real time GI or baked textures hand placed by the artists? I hope ND can confirm it.
3D scanning.
I don't know about QB but TTC uses it only for two bounces.
Wishmaster92
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looks amazing!
It won't be GI because it is only the flashlight.
It's still fully real time, isn't it? As far as I know, there is no baked GI in The Tomorrow Children.
Hmm, good point. So what would it be called then? Just bounce lighting?
Even if the footage was mostly from the E3 Jeep demo, it still reminded me how much better this game looks than anything else out there, it's technical and art perfection, they reached such a unique cartoony- realism look, and it's a beautiful thing to look at.
I can easily see a full movie including the gameplay parts that looks like this, not sure I can say it on any other game,
I can easily see a full movie including the gameplay parts that looks like this, not sure I can say it on any other game,
XxRampage07xX
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Didn't the guy being shot at die too quickly? He was hit only twice and I don't think two bullets are enough to kill a person, unless it's a headshot.
amstradcpc
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If you look closely, he got shot by someone else before.
About that gif, I love how much weightier it looks than the past Uncharted games.
Psychological Intellect
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You don't think 2 bullets are enough to kill a person?
You can see him getting shot by a sniper or something just before Nate finishes him off.
XxRampage07xX
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Yeah I saw it too. The first shot was from Sam (most likely) and the second was from Drake (he hit the guy but not that much, only by a bullet or two).
From what I saw, those shots only hit the chest and shoulder parts of that guy so yeah I don't think that was enough.
PeregrinSe7en
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wow but not surprised ND always setting the standard for what games should look like technically
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mejin
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Nice bullet casings.
It's a lot like the SVOGI removed from the UE4 that made everyone go berserk. It uses voxel cone tracing to achieve that result, which is awesome for modern rt graphics, but faaaaar from full raytracing. That's stuff for modern CGI (Monsters University and forward), and it takes weeks to render on render farms hundreds of time more powerful than current gen consoles.
RevolverRoden
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Looks awesome. I hope the bigger worlds and all that doesn't ruin the pacing like it does for a lot of games. Though it looks like ND understands that so I'm not too concerned.
