Depends on how you think Count Dooku portrayed himself to his troops and how close Jack Black was, versus what he WANTS folks to think. I'm guessing the Mando writers have a jaded cynicism towards ANY government system in Star Wars, be it Republic, Empire, OR New Republic, so it's pretty understandable they would cast the Separatists in a pseudo-favorable light when it is plot convenient. So Dooku was probably the face of the Separatist movement, anyone who couldn't get ahead in the Republic due to class, lack of contacts, or just being born on the wrong planet probably saw a lot of "good" in that movement that did carry over to the Empire. The Galaxy's Edge guys (not the Disney experience, but the alt-Star Wars book series) did a great job of showing why the Republic, away from the POV of it's favored children, the Jedi, had a lot of flaws that allowed the Empire to flourish in the first place, no Sith treachery needed. Andor does this as well.
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See, I don't see Jack Black as the buffoon, that was Lizzo. Black was an opportunistic pioneer who worked his way to the top of the food chain by being a trophy husband, all he has to do is climb on top of Lizzo every few weeks and he probably has a droid for that as well. He has a sly cunning, as evidenced by his way of manipulating Bo with the hollow offer of Mandalorian legitimacy. My guess is he was embezzling stacks of gold pressed latinum or credits or whatever the fuck Star Wars uses for hard currency out of that place and had his escape all planned out.
BlackTron
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Ok, I don't think he was a buffoon at his real job of being a manipulator. Just at being a leader in his supposed job. But it didn't matter, you are right he had things figured out and was no doubt embezzling hoards of money.
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Personally I don't feel like Pascal fits mando physically, his face I mean. The voice is pretty good but easily replaced I think.
He won't even take off is helmet. He prob asked why is he in the show since in this season he's completely redundant.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I find the idea of Pascal blowing up at those he works with and for dubious, but stranger things have happened in Hollywood.
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
There was nothing in this episode for me.
Fuck Jack Black and old ass Christopher Lloyd.
It's the Bo Katan show.
Fuck Jack Black and old ass Christopher Lloyd.
It's the Bo Katan show.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
is this show a certified flop?
ManaByte
Member
He won’t take off the helmet because he’s not in the suit anymore. He just does ADR for the dialog in a studio.
HoodWinked
Member
Well that's disappointing. I've been trying to remain optimistic about this season but Disney's need to shove in these dumb novelty appearances really kills my motivation to keep watching.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Just casually dropping spoilers?
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Ulysses 31
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ManaByte
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They publicly showed it at Celebration today.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Still huge spoilers to those who don't follow entertainment news 24/7, like me.
Bragr
Banned
I don't hate this season as many seem to do, visually it's still impressive, even if there is a clear drop in quality from the first 2 seasons.
But now, after this cum-stained fucking episode, with Jack Black and Lizzo as celebrity cameos, I had enough.
The entire story this season has seemed almost pointless til now, I feel like I am watching nothing of substance, but after this absurd celebrity cameo nonsense, that familiar Disney exploitative feeling creeps in, it's tainted now.
But now, after this cum-stained fucking episode, with Jack Black and Lizzo as celebrity cameos, I had enough.
The entire story this season has seemed almost pointless til now, I feel like I am watching nothing of substance, but after this absurd celebrity cameo nonsense, that familiar Disney exploitative feeling creeps in, it's tainted now.
PaddyOCanager
Member
Mandalorians were cooler before Lucas introduced the Darksaber and yet again tied everything in this shallow universe to the Jedi. The whole concept of a Mandalorian Jedi and Mandalorians considering a Jedi weapon sacred is lame as hell. They should be wiping Jedi off the face of the universe in these:
Hopefully in the series finale they throw the Darksaber and Grogu into a volcano. Then they bunker down in Mandalore space, sit out the entire events of the sequel trilogy, and emerge to wage war against Rey's New Jedi Order.
Hopefully in the series finale they throw the Darksaber and Grogu into a volcano. Then they bunker down in Mandalore space, sit out the entire events of the sequel trilogy, and emerge to wage war against Rey's New Jedi Order.
Kev Kev
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NickFire
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Episode 6 felt like the "Revenge of Bobba Fett's Writers". It was that bad. Not a single redeeming quality IMO.
I've got no behind scenes knowledge or insight, but it feels like the entire IP is in a giant tug of war between people who love Star Wars cannon and people who want to change the world. At this point I don't care who wins. I just want one side to prevail and the other to be fired so we know what to expect before starting a season, movie, etc. I'm happy to stay watching if they get serious again, but not going to cry if it's time to turn the page.
The entire IP has become one giant bait and switch IMO. Every time I have reason for excitement, we get: a pathetic tear down of Luke while some purple haired grandmother talks crap about pilots; a merciless bounty hunter turned mob boss who won't hurt people and deputizes kids on rainbow colored mopeds; and now a complete pivot from a story about the TITLE character to a secondary character, starring Jack Black, and following some of the laziest writing possible in prior episodes this season.
Did you hear the one about Mandalorians who let some flying dinosaur eat their kids because their jet packs have fuel limits?
Wait, what do you mean that wasn't a joke?
Edit - Obi Wan did live up to my expectations though. I loved that show. Give us Season 2 already.
I've got no behind scenes knowledge or insight, but it feels like the entire IP is in a giant tug of war between people who love Star Wars cannon and people who want to change the world. At this point I don't care who wins. I just want one side to prevail and the other to be fired so we know what to expect before starting a season, movie, etc. I'm happy to stay watching if they get serious again, but not going to cry if it's time to turn the page.
The entire IP has become one giant bait and switch IMO. Every time I have reason for excitement, we get: a pathetic tear down of Luke while some purple haired grandmother talks crap about pilots; a merciless bounty hunter turned mob boss who won't hurt people and deputizes kids on rainbow colored mopeds; and now a complete pivot from a story about the TITLE character to a secondary character, starring Jack Black, and following some of the laziest writing possible in prior episodes this season.
Did you hear the one about Mandalorians who let some flying dinosaur eat their kids because their jet packs have fuel limits?
Wait, what do you mean that wasn't a joke?
Edit - Obi Wan did live up to my expectations though. I loved that show. Give us Season 2 already.
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sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
The problem IMO is Kathleen Kennedy, she ruins everything in Star Wars she touches.
Dave Filoni and John Favreau should be put 100% in charge of Star Wars at Disney.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I haven't seen the new season of Mandalorian but I loved the first and second season. Probably one of the best things Disney has done with Star Wars.
I wonder when Vic Fontaine will appear in an episode?
I wonder when Vic Fontaine will appear in an episode?
Bragr
Banned
I would agree, the first two seasons are really good, and I usually hate Disney stuff.
In the third season though, every episode is like an episode of McGyver, it's self-contained with very few overarching stories, and when you start to wonder why it's not built like the first two seasons, then suddenly Jack Black and Lizzo pop up, and Lizzo can't act, she's only in the show because she is fat and famous.
Then it dawns on you, Disney is out to destroy Star Wars, they are shredding this universe bit for bit and are vomiting out content to fill up Disney+.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
It seems I am one of the few people in the world enjoying this season and loved the Jack Black episode. They're even doing the Jean-Claude Van Damme splits over top this and taking a dump on it over at Reddit - a sub that typically finds joy in every episode somehow.
Ah well. At least I'm getting my money's worth out of my Disney+ sub
Ah well. At least I'm getting my money's worth out of my Disney+ sub
I really like this season. There's some interesting big picture stuff that seems to be getting overlooked, and I kind of like it that way. I find myself wondering how can these threads can be overlooked. Maybe the next gen will appreciate showing not telling more. No matter, I like the feeling. That cyborg really kicked it off well for me after the setup in the prev ep with Bo Katan. Before her isolated world was destroyed and reforged by the Armorer after a visit to Mandalore...
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Kev Kev
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Another good episode. Grogu in the droid was pretty great. Had me laughing out loud a couple times, and it was interesting how they used him in certain scenes. I'm loving the whole apocalyptic atmosphere of Mandalore and watching this team of bad ass, futuristic, space warriors navigating their way through it.
I loved the atmosphere of the city when that Imperial spy chick was walking through. Oh and the scene where they were talking about Thrawn is very revealing in what direction they are talking the show, and even the whole franchise. I have a feeling that Thrawn is going to play a major role and this is just the beginning. I read the Thrawn trilogy back in the day and he was a fantastic character. I'm really looking forward to finally see him on the big screen.
No idea how they are going to end this season but I can't wait for the conclusion next week.
I loved the atmosphere of the city when that Imperial spy chick was walking through. Oh and the scene where they were talking about Thrawn is very revealing in what direction they are talking the show, and even the whole franchise. I have a feeling that Thrawn is going to play a major role and this is just the beginning. I read the Thrawn trilogy back in the day and he was a fantastic character. I'm really looking forward to finally see him on the big screen.
No idea how they are going to end this season but I can't wait for the conclusion next week.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
That cyberpunk vibe at the start. I need more of that.
ManaByte
Member
Filoni’s movie that wraps up the shows is the New Republic vs Thrawn’s armada.
Ironbunny
Member
Most likely. Sackoff is kinda lame in this though and her face always looks like shes holding off letting a fart go.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
The shots from behind as she walked the cityscape reminded me of the original Blade Runner, that's a good thing. A darker and more mature tone like that is where Star Wars peaks for me.
When she talks or fights etc she is solid, when she non-verbally reacts it's bad. They really need to edit/write/direct better to stop repeating that sort of thing. Time for some fresh air.
Ironbunny
Member
True, its not her fault. Its the lack of talent in the team behind the camera.
ManaByte
Member
I’m old enough to remember people fellating Filoni and Favreau just a couple of years ago.
Stitch
Gold Member
It’s mostly Favreau now, Filoni is busy with Ahsoka
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
This is amazing and so true!! I wish she would just say this to Mando and get it over with
BlackTron
Member
With a little time for the episode to settle, Gideon REALLY stole the show. I can't stop thinking about his scenes both at the start and end of the ep. He is the ultimate bad guy.
The notes of his music theme are timed perfectly during his monologue at the end. What a motherfucker. Best villain since Jafar
The notes of his music theme are timed perfectly during his monologue at the end. What a motherfucker. Best villain since Jafar
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
This is the way