What? It has been on Origin since they were released.
Unless you meant on sale? Or not with Bioware points? Then, i guess no.
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What? It has been on Origin since they were released.
Unless you meant on sale? Or not with Bioware points? Then, i guess no.
anexanhume
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Kojirospath
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Every time this thread is bumped and there still is no remaster announced I die a little inside. Don't know why I keep expecting it at this point.
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I remember that post and think you should read the whole thing and look at the timeline of his comments at this point.
SliChillax
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Because it has been discussed by a Bioware developer? Fucking hell guys just wait.
Yeah I really meant those other things.
The Artisan
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I have a question - I know time is relative, and we're taught that looking at the night sky, some of those stars aren't the same from the way we're looking at it.
However, throughout the ME trilogy, the "year" all around the galaxy is ~2180, yeah? How is this possible? I suppose Me1 did the explanation for with the FTL travel and such, but now that I think about it, I've never understood how this has been firmly established.
However, throughout the ME trilogy, the "year" all around the galaxy is ~2180, yeah? How is this possible? I suppose Me1 did the explanation for with the FTL travel and such, but now that I think about it, I've never understood how this has been firmly established.
ThoseDeafMutes
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What's your question exactly?
ME1 is 2183, ME2 is 2185, ME3 is 2186.
ME1 is 2183, ME2 is 2185, ME3 is 2186.
SliChillax
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I think he's trying to ask why is the date and time in different planets the same as ours on Earth. Shouldn't Ilium for example be another year and date altogether or just have a different way to evaluate time.
Mutanthands
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So, you're thinking relativity and light speed travel, and time dilation, correct? Mass effect fields trump time dilation for...reasons, and communication uses the same reasons to allow faster than light communication. It's vague, beyond the entire ezero+electricity=zero mass. No explanation for FTL without the mass relays, or with the mass relays for that matter.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Oh.
Well since instantaneous communication across interstellar distances is possible and does not appear to cause time paradoxes in the ME universe we can infer that special and general relativity are tossed into a trash can somewhere. Simultaneity is possible at a distance in this world for some unexplained reason and therefore everyone can keep steady clocks regardless of where they go or how quickly they get there. People are measuring years against Earth time in the Alliance because it's the capital and most populous world. When foreign terminals are talking to you in English they translate the dates into alliance dates for convenience.
Ivory Samoan
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This is my point of no return too (regarding Remaster news), my inner Niftu Cal is telling me if it's not there.... it's not coming.
...and I always listen to my inner Biotic God.
Communication is based on quantum entanglement, which is a real concept. Although we're not certain it could be used the same way Mass Effect does it.
As for time, it's ~2180 in the human sense, but that's just the way that humanity measures time. Do we have any indication what the current calendar or whatever is for other species?
I suppose they talk about things being X years back or whatever, but I have to assume that it's just a shorthand for the player to easily understand.
As for the question about the stars being different, that's just because it takes so long for the light from the stars to reach us. So, yes, the stars we're seeing on Earth is the light that left the star thousands of years ago. But that doesn't really affect anything in the game, because most of those stars are still there, or will just be vaguely different.
Ganzlinger
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Obviously Einstein got it wrong lol
foxdvd
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Give me true space exploration with planets and missions off the main path that make you feel small and isolated in a huge universe.
Let me explore those planets and reward me for that exploration
Give me combat that is both exciting and tactical.
Let me work out a combat strategy that lets me get through an encounter, keeping me on the edge of my seat, but also making me feel powerful.
Give me characters I care about, even if they are flawed.
Let me explore those characters with fully fleshed out side missions
Give me items and weapons and attachments that really let me customize my experience
Let me choose what combination I want to use and not give me one clear cut "best" item in each area
Give me the next Mass Effect game
Let me explore those planets and reward me for that exploration
Give me combat that is both exciting and tactical.
Let me work out a combat strategy that lets me get through an encounter, keeping me on the edge of my seat, but also making me feel powerful.
Give me characters I care about, even if they are flawed.
Let me explore those characters with fully fleshed out side missions
Give me items and weapons and attachments that really let me customize my experience
Let me choose what combination I want to use and not give me one clear cut "best" item in each area
Give me the next Mass Effect game
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
That means 100% nothing. He just wanted to get people's hopes up, but the facts remain.
EA doesn't do remasters. It's 100% fact. They never have and they never will. They can NEVER change their business policies. Companies like EA NEVER change with the times and cannot do something new. That's not how business works. PANTHEON has spoken. He knows.
Again, EA has never done remasters and they clearly NEVER will. Aaryn showing up was just a smokescreen. Bioware needed to get one last troll attempt in since people had finally let the ending go.
So much rage coming from that post. You need to relax a bit. And Aaryn's post never felt like a troll attempt, like he said "just a wish list" if it was to happen.
Magic Mushroom
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Good points. I would also like missions/quests that can be solved in a non-violent matter.
anexanhume
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Well, QE is used for the Normandy's communication link to IM. Otherwise, FTL communication is handled via the mass relays, just like ship transportation is. That's why QE is termed secure since it does not have to go through those channels.
In terms of the main plot, absolutely. In terms of virtually everything else, nah, ME2/ME3 please.
I could see a way that a loose and light main plot like Mass Effect 2's would work. If we do have a situation where, for instance, you have a ship that's stranded in a new galaxy, the episodic thing would work. You'll have the barebones backing of trying to find a way home, and then episodes of the crew dealing with various planets and species. I mean, there's a reason that Star Trek is so popular.
Honestly, my biggest problem with it is that that narrative structure doesn't work in the least for the middle chapter of a trilogy. Where Mass Effect 2 should have been about raising the stakes and really getting people invested in the Reaper storyline, we instead spent the majority of the game getting to know our crew instead. Instead, the lightweight main plotline becomes this odd self-contained story that can practically be excised from the series and it would still make sense.
And, of course, to add insult to injury, we didn't really have any of the new crew introduced in ME2 on our squad in ME3, rendering the whole thing even more pointless.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
All I am saying that EA doesn't do remasters. They never have. Why would they start now? It doesn't work that way. If they have never done something before it means they can NEVER do it.
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Fimbulvetr
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I'd say more in terms of tone.
prag16
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Relax, man. I have no idea why you have so much invested in this, and why having people disagree with you affects you on such a visceral level. We should all just sit tight until E3. If they announce something then, all the "lulz EA remaster" people will have to eat some crow.
That's probably a given based on what they've said. It'd certainly be a mistake to craft another game with ME3's tone, as appropriate as it was for that game. Apocalyptic war atmospheres can take five for this round.
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I never said any of that. They have done remasters of a sort. They just don't do remasters, presently, especially in any capacity to support your claims. That's the responsive context I have noted this in. You decry speculation and then continuously speculate. Don't be aggressive with me for not buying your assumptions and overzealous inferences.
The Artisan
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pretty much, yeah. you said it better than I did. I remember during the shadow broker dlc where there was a paragon interrupt and shepard trying to talk reason to liara, justifying time to talk by saying "the jump we're gonna take will be at least a few light years away, so we have time to talk" or something like that. so i've been thinking about that and like.. that doesn't really matter considering the relays.
hm. well even if it doesn't make sense in the real world, it's something that still works for the purpose of the story/setting I guess. the elements of the lore didn't stretch to complete nonsense imo till Me3.
is it really unexplained, or can we infer that once humans discovered the diverse galactic civilizations that they helped normalize and make it uniform as a galactic society?
But in the ME-verse, I'm guessing even though the stars in the night sky may different at the normal speed, but thanks to the ftl mass relays, simultaneity throughout the galaxy is achieved. yes?
I guess so. dead dude gets way too much cred
IM=illusive man?
The Artisan
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agreed. TIM was good as the enigmatic, questionable character opposing shepard in Me2 but I hated how he was the main villain of Me3.Need someone like him to be in ME IV; Illusive Man felt too exposed in the end.
Ganzlinger
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They should have added the Illusive Man as a love interest for FemShep. It would make things a lot more interesting.
The Artisan
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EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
it's been so long since mass effect anything
Boombloxer
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it's been so long since mass effect anything
I had to fire up the PS3 to transport my BL2 save to the PS4, and was tempted to play some MP. I miss it so much.
it's been so long since mass effect anything
Why isnt this a turian skull? Humans get to be special in everything, dont they?
Ganzlinger
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For real. Shepard is 32 and the Illusive Man is probably on his later 40s (Mass Effect: Evolution spoilers)
He was a young merc during the First Contact War, if we give him 20 years old back then he will be 48 in ME3).
Even in the age of space travel cigarettes are hell.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Is your spoilered response serious? I can never tell with you.
The Artisan
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I get that they're both adults but I always feel like these sort of age gaps are.. just a bit iffy for couples.
however, with age aside, a developing romance between tim & femshep would've be an interesting road to look at.
yes it is serious, johnny.
Ivory Samoan
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I would hook up with TIM with my Femshep for sure, what's age when interstellar loving is abound?
In other news, hnnnnggg for the new IP mentioned by Shinobi a couple pages ago... my E3 predictions have changed slightly for BW:
New IP mentioned/concept art + possible working title
ME Remaster announced, N7 Day 2015 release
ME4 full trailer with real name shown, crowd swoons: I may or may not pass out with hnnngg
In other news, hnnnnggg for the new IP mentioned by Shinobi a couple pages ago... my E3 predictions have changed slightly for BW:
New IP mentioned/concept art + possible working title
ME Remaster announced, N7 Day 2015 release
pls BioWare, for the love of all that is good and holy
shinobi602
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You'll have the extended ending so the issues won't be prominent much as with pre-patch.
Joe does a decent job of going through the exact reasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M0Cf864P7E
Nah.
At this point it there isn't a reason to do it. Even if you don't find it terrible, it's just a videogame ending. You are good just youtubing it or better yet, making up your own.
Like, Harbinger gathers 4 buddies and challenges Shepard to a game of bball for the fate of the galaxy. Unbeknownst to you he assimilated some Earth superstars talent while you were busy with the Illusive man crap or whatever. BUT, turns out Javik was not a Prothean, but Michael Jordan himself disguised and helps you beat them. You pull some globetrotters bullshit in the end, drop some wisecracking oneliners like "stay out of my tearf" (get it?), credits roll to the space jam theme with videos of your crew dancing. The End.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You're weird.
Don't forget that the asari are several hundred years old and date much younger.
The Artisan
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Ivory Samoan
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If you play Leviathan+Citadel in your playthrough with EC (Extended Cut): 90% of the ending problems are negated IMO.
Totally ending feels vs. Vanilla confusing feels.
prag16
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90% is a little aggressive imo but 60%+ sure. Still not a huge fan, but it's almost certain there would have been no enormous shit storm if EC/Leviathan had been in the base game.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The extended cut and Leviathan provide complimentary material that expands upon existing material for a more thorough and comprehensive conclusion to the narrative as it was. And that's great.
But the fundamental problems within the narrative itself and the absurd thematic inconsistencies of the climax remain. If those were a source of frustration, which I'm sure they were for many like myself, there is no fix. Just fluff.
Regardless, EC + Leviathan are more or less essential and the best we've got. Meanwhile Citadel is the meta send off, if canonically nonsensical, to the series as a whole.
But the fundamental problems within the narrative itself and the absurd thematic inconsistencies of the climax remain. If those were a source of frustration, which I'm sure they were for many like myself, there is no fix. Just fluff.
Regardless, EC + Leviathan are more or less essential and the best we've got. Meanwhile Citadel is the meta send off, if canonically nonsensical, to the series as a whole.
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