I agree that the Andromeda Initiative videos have been really great so far. Anyways, I love the vibe the screenshots give off, if nothing else. They are obviously compressed, but I love the neon palette and that planet vista shot with the Tempest. It's going to look so great in 4K boy oh boy.
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DevilDog
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I think my problem is with all these lights and lines. Everything looks so unnatural and unappealing.
Lighting looks kinda off, the way everything is illuminated is... off puting, anyone know why? Also purple circles around a red eye, green razer lights on that little droid whatever, a floor with more green lines what the hell am I even looking at here?
I suspect this just looks better in motion and is better to look at in game.
But I shouldn't be giving them the benefit of the doubt from these screenshots, they're supposed to be selling me, they're not.
Apart from that tempest in the air ones. Those are kinda sweet.
I mean, I know the pic below doesn't look great but at least I know where everything is:
Heckler456
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They're presumably screenshots taken from a technical video being shows at the Nvidia CES conference. People who view that sort of stuff should be invested enough not only in the game itself, but gaming in general to not need eye-popping or whatever you consider "interesting" screenshots. To me, these screenshots are perfectly fine, and perfectly complimentary to the rest that they've shown thus far.
Also, how can you say that the "marketing" has been rough when you yourself think the Ark info video was "awesome", and know that they're clearly taking a shortened marketing approach towards release? I feel like people keep parroting this stuff without really thinking about it, because seriously, which other developer does shit like Dragon Age Keep or The Andromeda Initiative? Like seriously, nearly every single game out there takes a really conservative marketing approach, and here you have Bioware trying something different, and yet they're getting hammered because of it. Because why? Because people are impatient? I don't get it.
I think my problem is with all these lights and lines. Everything looks so unnatural and unappealing.
Lighting looks kinda off, the way everything is illuminated is... off puting, anyone know why? Also purple circles around a red eye, green razer lights on that little droid whatever, a floor with more green lines what the hell am I even looking at here?
I suspect this just looks better in motion and is better to look at in game.
But I shouldn't be giving them the benefit of the doubt from these screenshots, they're supposed to be selling me, they're not.
Apart from that tempest in the air ones. Those are kinda sweet.
No one screenshot is supposed to be selling you anything. Also, those things look unnatural because they are unnatural. I don't even know what you're talking about here.
Like, with all due respect, but you're kind of overthinking things a little.
I'm going to be in on those cinematic tools asap.
Tony Redgrave
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I don't think the screenshots look bad but they seem like gameplay screencaps and the game will look much better in motion, the Remnant techy-lines for example look nice when you see the light pulsating through them etc.
The use of complementary color palettes and the models are nice, the Tempest looks great too IMO (from a design point of view) so I don't know what else people want.
The use of complementary color palettes and the models are nice, the Tempest looks great too IMO (from a design point of view) so I don't know what else people want.
DevilDog
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Your overthinking is my normal thinking
Right now I'm just struggling to see where the light is coming from in those pictures. It seems to come from everywhere and nowhere.
Dandy Lyin
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I wish they had the digital deluxe edition... I want that pet pyjack, damn it!
They are standing in shadow so they are in front of a big structure or something you can see where the moonlight(I assume it is) hits the ground outside of it and the red light is just behind the character.
It looks fine to me, its a bad taken screenshot but technically it seems completely fine.
It looks fine to me, its a bad taken screenshot but technically it seems completely fine.
Heckler456
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Your overthinking is my normal thinking
Right now I'm just struggling to see where the light is coming from in those pictures. It seems to come from everywhere and nowhere.
There's a top-down bright lit night sky presumably from the gigantic celestial bodies present in the other screenshots, and a bottom-up orange light from lava pools. What other light sources don't make sense to you?
That might be becuase its not nighttime, there just seems to be some kind of thunderstorm or whatever.
http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/MassEffectAndromeda/CES 2017 Screenshot 05.jpg
http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/screenshots/MassEffectAndromeda/CES 2017 Screenshot 05.jpg
Heckler456
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But you said it doesn't make sense and is unnatural. Except it isn't, because look at how big these celestial bodies are.
That is presuming these are the same planet of course, but there are other explanations as well, as is shown in the comment above this one.
Bright moonlit nights exist on earth too.
shinobi602
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You're comparing it to what we know as "night". It's an alien planet with storms, volcanic ash and it's own weather.
And night doesn't have to mean pitch black.
Heckler456
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Or actually, it might be due to this thing in the top middle part of this screenshot.
Hey and look, it seems to cast its light rather accurately. As does the glow of the lava pool from the right. Have we sufficiently established that Bioware is able to place light sources accurately now, as if that was something we should even be wringing our hands about, seeing as how this game is running on Frostbite.
DevilDog
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Yeah definitely, but I've seen way too many "nights" in the Frostbite engine being just blue filters on top of really lit environments, like this one. They're like this because according to the devs working on frostbite titles, night time isn't fun.
Or actually, it might be due to this thing in the top middle part of this screenshot.
That looks like a weird eclipse? Maybe its a black hole or something? Maybe its devouring a star and it's producing light.
I still don't like the lighting however. I don't know why though.
Heckler456
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Well, not much discussion to be had then I suppose, if you can't express why you don't like it.
To me, the game looks amazing. I haven't really seen any polished metal yet, but I wonder if they've fixed the flickering that would occur on that type of material in DA:I. At any rate though, every looks really well realized and very detailed.
To me, the game looks amazing. I haven't really seen any polished metal yet, but I wonder if they've fixed the flickering that would occur on that type of material in DA:I. At any rate though, every looks really well realized and very detailed.
I have to agree, even if I'd be the first to criticize ME3, positive comments are nice to read sometimes even if I don't agree with them lol
So, the new stuff will be shown in about 35 minutes or did I mess up my time zones ?
DeadlyParasite
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My understanding is that the conference itself starts in 30 minutes but Mass Effect is just one small part of it and could appear at any point so we might have to watch through a lot of other NVIDIA tech stuff.
If that's the case I'm gonna put the stream on my TV and continue to work on my laptop, keeping my ears open for the words "Mass Effect" in the middle of the technobabble I don't understand
Officer.Sanchez
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DeadlyParasite
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Oh god the audio desync.
There are three streams I think, Twitch and two others. Try everything !
Dude on stage was talking about Artificial Intelligence. How fitting is it to talk about Mass Effect in the same conference.
DeadlyParasite
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Here we go. Aaryn Flynn is up on stage.
Officer.Sanchez
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OH GOD THE TRAILERRRRR, PLEASE BIOWARE
Heckler456
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Need me a link to a decent video!
DeadlyParasite
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Well then, that was certainly brief.
At least we've got menu footage to pick through and decipher.
At least we've got menu footage to pick through and decipher.
Officer.Sanchez
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is... that... all?
DeadlyParasite
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I see they deliberately stuffed PeeBee face footage in there but no Cora who was also in the squad.
That would've been like the perfect way to reveal.
That would've been like the perfect way to reveal.
Tony Redgrave
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Well that was nice and... awfully short. We had pretty much seen everything in today's images. The skill trees will no doubt be juicy but I had hoped for something new, anyway looks great so we can only wait until the next tidbit.
DeadlyParasite
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Apologies for the shitty, quick screencap grab but here's a look at the character and abilities screen(?)
The first thing that stood out to me was the Nexus Level in the top right, which we also saw in the Game Awards footage. Seems to imply that we're going to have to help build up the Nexus since it only arrives in Andromeda as one part of a whole station (as implied by the Ark and Nexus video).
There's also all the different submenus at the top, I can probably guess the gear at the right is the options menu.
The first thing that stood out to me was the Nexus Level in the top right, which we also saw in the Game Awards footage. Seems to imply that we're going to have to help build up the Nexus since it only arrives in Andromeda as one part of a whole station (as implied by the Ark and Nexus video).
There's also all the different submenus at the top, I can probably guess the gear at the right is the options menu.
Yep. What they show isn't bad, but... As far as gaming goes, I don't remember being ever as frustrated as I've been with the Andromeda presentations. And I've been hyped for tons of games.
Oh well, let's wait for the next month, like we've been doing all year long in 2016
The game comes out in less than three months anyway, but I'd love at least one amazing trailer
Heckler456
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Fuck yes. An enhanced version of DA:I base building is all I really wanted, love that kind of stuff.
I sure hope so.
Though it'll be hard as hell to top Mass Effect 2's Launch Trailer.
Still gives me chills.
Officer.Sanchez
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Yeah, it's really frustrating.
The menu is a horrible benny hill sequence I have to pause and repeat to decipher what the hell is going on.
I really don't understand the complaints about the animation in combat. "Junk" ? "Clanky" ?
What ? I play tons of action games and to me the way it moves seem absolutely fine.
Yeah I shouldn't even stop to think about it. Some people are voicing valid concerns, and other seem to be regurgitating words that are devoid of all sense at this point.
Anyway, one thing I noticed in the video, is that abilities can now be charged. It says that one press on the button will launch Overload on one enemy, and holding the button a bit will charge the ability so that it hits one additional enemy. I like it.
What ? I play tons of action games and to me the way it moves seem absolutely fine.
Yeah I shouldn't even stop to think about it. Some people are voicing valid concerns, and other seem to be regurgitating words that are devoid of all sense at this point.
Anyway, one thing I noticed in the video, is that abilities can now be charged. It says that one press on the button will launch Overload on one enemy, and holding the button a bit will charge the ability so that it hits one additional enemy. I like it.
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