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I've been missing out on my Mass Effect fix - loaded up ME2 to start all over again for one last hurrah.

I wish I had the PC version of ME1, but I had that on my 360 and my disc got stolen. So I have to start from 2. With no Saren.

If there would be a next-gen ME4, can we please go back to the sci-fi style of ME1? Oh, and whilst ME2&3 were super smooth to run and gun in I definitely want more of the uniqueness of ME1 gameplay with more RPG focus again. Weapon clips are dumb in the future, bring back overheating.
There was a save transferrer if I remember correctly, as well as tools to recreate your save.
 

TheHall

Junior Member
If ME4 is just a very fleshed out version of ME3's multiplayer i would still pay $70 on day one.

Dear god, that "tacked on" multiplayer was amazing.
 

Patryn

Member
It would make sense to announce it before PAX and then show it there. PAX is about the Fans and there are alot of cosplayers. If the ME fans would know about a new ME and that it will be at PAX alot of them would show up at PAX in they costumes

PAX East already has some panel where several voice actors will be cosplaying as their ME characters.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
If ME4 is just a very fleshed out version of ME3's multiplayer i would still pay $70 on day one.

Dear god, that "tacked on" multiplayer was amazing.

When you end up spending more time in that multiplayer than the entire ME trilogy you know something's good.

Turian Shocktrooper and N7 Shadow are still my favourite despite the fact , the Shock troppers main defining ability is simply a crappier version of a vanguards charge it feels so awesome doing it.
 

Lucius86

Banned
There was a save transferrer if I remember correctly, as well as tools to recreate your save.

You're right, but alas my original HDD on the 360 got stolen too.

It was more to do with wanting to play ME1 over again more than importing my save - I want that Sovereign chat to get me all goosebumpy. YouTube doesn't cut it.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
I've been missing out on my Mass Effect fix - loaded up ME2 to start all over again for one last hurrah.

I wish I had the PC version of ME1, but I had that on my 360 and my disc got stolen. So I have to start from 2. With no Saren.

If there would be a next-gen ME4, can we please go back to the sci-fi style of ME1? Oh, and whilst ME2&3 were super smooth to run and gun in I definitely want more of the uniqueness of ME1 gameplay with more RPG focus again. Weapon clips are dumb in the future, bring back overheating.

How much is the PC version of ME1? Steam or Origin, i bet its at most 10$. It's worth the price of playing the game at 60 FPS/1080p(especially after hearing how bad the 360 and PS3 versions run), even if there is no controller support.
 

Plasma

Banned
How much is the PC version of ME1? Steam or Origin, i bet its at most 10$. It's worth the price of playing the game at 60 FPS/1080p(especially after hearing how bad the 360 and PS3 versions run), even if there is no controller support.

Yep definitely worth picking up on the PC, I found the combat and controls for the first game to be much better with the keyboard and mouse.
 

Kikujiro

Member
Based on the Digital Foundry analysis, ME2 on PS3 is very comparable to the 360 version, but ME3 suffers a lot in the performance department.

That's good to hear, I'm pretty excited to play ME2 and see all the big improvements they made. I know some people say ME1 is better, but I wasn't blown away by the first episode and I feel like I'm gonna like the second one more.
 
For god's sake...it's 2014 and people is still recommending ME3 to people who have not played the other 2.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106089719&postcount=3080

Why people still do THAT? How can you recommend the last chapter of a 3 chapters story?

Yeah odd that. There is only one thing odder than that and that is Bioware recommending the same damn thing :-

Bioware stooge said:
What we’re trying to do with Mass Effect 3 is that it’s a new beginning for the series. It’s probably a natural entry point. Given the fact this is the beginning of an all-out war with this ancient alien race. We’ve been foreshadowing this war with this race that’s been dormant for 50,000 years. Well now they’ve finally woken up, launching their full scale invasion and trying to wipe out all life as we know it. It’s a natural point for people to jump in.

http://gamerant.com/mass-effect-3-fans-accessible-dyce-99145/

They even went one stage further as to suggest existing fans "experience" Mass Effect 3 for the first time WITHOUT importing a save game (which many had to do anyway because the save game importing was horribly broken and still is for some).

We can only hope lessons have been learnt, though I doubt it.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
ME4 will provide a better template than any, sans the first game, for being a new entry into the series. Regardless of where it's canonically set in the timeline, it's an entirely new story devoid of Shepard and co. Perfect and logical opportunity to get new fans. The "ME3 = perfect entry point!!!" thing was bafflingly stupid, even if it worked out economically.
 

prag16

Banned
For god's sake...it's 2014 and people is still recommending ME3 to people who have not played the other 2.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106089719&postcount=3080

Why people still do THAT? How can you recommend the last chapter of a 3 chapters story?

It was a Wii U topic in which a guy was looking for more games, and I clearly said "If you have no other way to play the series." At around $10 new, you think that's an awful recommendation? I don't.

Gimme a break, man... lol.
 
ME4 will provide a better template than any, sans the first game, for being a new entry into the series. Regardless of where it's canonically set in the timeline, it's an entirely new story devoid of Shepard and co. Perfect and logical opportunity to get new fans. The "ME3 = perfect entry point!!!" thing was bafflingly stupid, even if it worked out economically.

Anymore rumours ? Very keen for any info
 

i-Lo

Member
Would people be interested if the next mass effect game had over 10 folds the content of ME3, more dialogues and more characters but played like Baldur's Gate + Diablo (on consoles) with isometric camera angle? It would funnel the money toward more non-graphical and more pertinent upgrades.

With the changing of gens from SD to HD and programming complexities increasing significantly, the cost of games development had sky-rocketed (graphics is not the sole reason, however) last gen. This generation, both consoles (esp. PS4) are far more straight forward to program for. Most know it was done in the hopes of ultimately reducing game development cost (w/ time), thereby attracting more devs. However, will that change how major developers and publishers treat the consumers, many of who are now conditioned to not only expect but accept the much abused ubiquitous micro-transaction system? Given what EA has done with F2P games on mobile platform, I seriously doubt that they along with Bioware will provide a "complete" game and forgo the route of holding content (developed alongside the original project) hostage behind pay-wall. Even to this day, what they did with Javik disgusts me. I would like to believe in EatChildren's faith in Bioware but their track record in recent years makes me fearful.
 

Maligna

Banned
For god's sake...it's 2014 and people is still recommending ME3 to people who have not played the other 2.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=106089719&postcount=3080

Why people still do THAT? How can you recommend the last chapter of a 3 chapters story?

Honestly I have a hard time recommending the first game to certain people I know just because I fear they'll get to the horribly long Citadel part and then never finish playing. It's happened with a couple people I know already.
 

prag16

Banned
Honestly I have a hard time recommending the first game to certain people I know just because I fear they'll get to the horribly long Citadel part and then never finish playing. It's happened with a couple people I know already.

That's funny. Two guys I know from work that tried it fell victim to that exact part of the game... got bored and never went back to it during that extended citadel section during the first half of the game.
 
There's nothing wrong with the first part of the first game. Problem is modern society and gamers are just too riddled with ADHD to focus on anything important.

I always give games a good long chance, whether it's a long section or hard enemies.
 

royox

Member
It was a Wii U topic in which a guy was looking for more games, and I clearly said "If you have no other way to play the series." At around $10 new, you think that's an awful recommendation? I don't.

Gimme a break, man... lol.


"If you have no other way to play the series...don't play ME3". Easy as hell.

Me1 and ME2 can be sold for 5$ each other (or both at the same time) on Steam sales or Origin.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Anymore rumours ? Very keen for any info

Nothing. They've done a good job of keeping a tight lid on things. Summary:

What we know fo sho:
- It's not called "Mass Effect 4".
- No Shepard and crew, totally new story and direction for the series.
- Powered by Frostbite 3.
- Will feature "all the staples elements of the franchise".

Rumour #1: PAX private fan demo leak:
- Two new species: one arrogant and skeletal, the other ancient space golems.
- Turian/Asari/etc return, renders shown.
- Greater diversity and detail in alien facial structures.
- More detailed armour customisation.
- Vehicles return to some degree.
- Core themes: exploration and discovery.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.

Rumour #2: My info, based on an old build:
- Titled "Mass Effect: (something)".
- Core themes: exploration.
- New species.
- PC/Xbone/PS4 only. No last gen port planned.
- Multiplayer.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.
- Designed similarly to previous entries: third person, powers, etc.
- Implied that the PAX leak details are believable.

Rumour #3: Guy who successfully leaked very detailed Citadel DLC story/content months before release:
- Titled "Mass Effect: First Contact".
- Prequel, set during the First Contact War.
- First person shooter.
- Greater emphasis on action and shooting over role playing.

That's all we go.
 

royox

Member
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.


But the trilogy has 4 kind of endings and several variations on red and blue endings (red beam destroys everything, red beam destroys everything but organics, red beam only destroys Synthetics...)

How can you contiue that?
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
But the trilogy has 4 kind of endings and several variations on red and blue endings (red beam destroys everything, red beam destroys everything but organics, red beam only destroys Synthetics...)

How can you contiue that?

Iono. If it's actually a sequel I figure their options are:

a) Set it so fucking far in the future and try to canonise any possible ending/universe state that they're all made irrelevant.
b) Retcon in some post-ending events that trivialises the choice into a new canon.
c) Try and save import ending/universe variations and fail miserable.
d) Say "fuck it" to players desperate for their ending to be canonised and instead pick one or craft a new one and make it that.

Personally, if it's a sequel, I hope to fuck they go with option d. And I hope that just means "Reapers are dead, synthesis didn't happen, and there was no arbitrary "synthetic" genocide. The universe is post-Reaper war. The end." Like I just want them to go with the in a universe of many possibilities, here is one direction instead of pandering to fans who demand their choices matter, instead emphasising that this is just one possible outcome and no it might not be yours but get the fuck over it the trilogy is over it doesn't matter rennaghghdfg.
 
Iono. If it's actually a sequel I figure their options are:

a) Set it so fucking far in the future and try to canonise any possible ending/universe state that they're all made irrelevant.
b) Retcon in some post-ending events that trivialises the choice into a new canon.
c) Try and save import ending/universe variations and fail miserable.
d) Say "fuck it" to players desperate for their ending to be canonised and instead pick one or craft a new one and make it that.

Personally, if it's a sequel, I hope to fuck they go with option d. And I hope that just means "Reapers are dead, synthesis didn't happen, and there was no arbitrary "synthetic" genocide. The universe is post-Reaper war. The end." Like I just want them to go with the in a universe of many possibilities, here is one direction instead of pandering to fans who demand their choices matter, instead emphasising that this is just one possible outcome and no it might not be yours but get the fuck over it the trilogy is over it doesn't matter rennaghghdfg.

I think those are about the only plausible options. I really don't care what they do as long as they break away from the organic vs. synthetic crap.
 

royox

Member
Personally, if it's a sequel, I hope to fuck they go with option d. And I hope that just means "Reapers are dead, synthesis didn't happen, and there was no arbitrary "synthetic" genocide. The universe is post-Reaper war. The end." Like I just want them to go with the in a universe of many possibilities, here is one direction instead of pandering to fans who demand their choices matter, instead emphasising that this is just one possible outcome and no it might not be yours but get the fuck over it the trilogy is over it doesn't matter rennaghghdfg.

That would piss everybody who choose green, blue....or even shoot da fucking kid.

If BW wants to continue ME saga they need the indoctrination theory to become true. Blue, Green = indoctrinated. Red = Not indoctrinated. Shoot the Kid = alternative not canon ending.
 

Patryn

Member
Nothing. They've done a good job of keeping a tight lid on things. Summary:

What we know fo sho:
- It's not called "Mass Effect 4".
- No Shepard and crew, totally new story and direction for the series.
- Powered by Frostbite 3.
- Will feature "all the staples elements of the franchise".

Rumour #1: PAX private fan demo leak:
- Two new species: one arrogant and skeletal, the other ancient space golems.
- Turian/Asari/etc return, renders shown.
- Greater diversity and detail in alien facial structures.
- More detailed armour customisation.
- Vehicles return to some degree.
- Core themes: exploration and discovery.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.

Rumour #2: My info, based on an old build:
- Titled "Mass Effect: (something)".
- Core themes: exploration.
- New species.
- PC/Xbone/PS4 only. No last gen port planned.
- Multiplayer.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.
- Designed similarly to previous entries: third person, powers, etc.
- Implied that the PAX leak details are believable.

Rumour #3: Guy who successfully leaked very detailed Citadel DLC story/content months before release:
- Titled "Mass Effect: First Contact".
- Prequel, set during the First Contact War.
- First person shooter.
- Greater emphasis on action and shooting over role playing.

That's all we go.
Rumor 3 is like all my worst nightmares combined. I literally hate every aspect of that.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I think those are about the only plausible options. I really don't care what they do as long as they break away from the organic vs. synthetic crap.

I think, regardless of canonical placement, it'll be about "first contact" style situations. A reverse on ME1's core theme, which was humanity's introduction and presence in the galactic circus. This'll be the other way around: meeting new species that want in on some of that good blue stuff.

That would piss everybody who choose green, blue....or even shoot da fucking kid.

GOOD.

Like, I think it's impossible for them to make a post-trilogy game without pissing off fans desperate for their universe to continue. I believe it's fundamentally impossible to do this successfully unless we live in a fantasy universe where BioWare has unlimited time, money, manpower, and talent to make the ultimate game.

If it's post-trilogy I view Mass Effect 4 as very much a new season, a new story, set in whatever universe state best suits that story. I really wish more fans would see from this perspective and realise that the next game set in a new universe doesn't invalidate their choices, because their universe still exists, it just happens to be not the focus of the franchise future.

Rumor 3 is like all my worst nightmares combined. I literally hate every aspect of that.

The worst part is that what the dude leaked about the Citadel DLC makes him verifiable someone who was or is in a position to know shit that goes on at BioWare. Like if this were a GAF poster with that track record you'd assume he was on point.

For what it's worth, his rumour is by far the oldest of the lot. My theory is, based on various rumour mongering, public statements, and time passed, Montreal probably was originally going to work on a first person shooter prequel set during the First Contact War. But the massive ending backlash and fan disinterest in any prequels lead to a huge overhaul of early plans to make something more traditional. Yanick Roy has pretty explicitly said "noooo no no it's gonna be a traditional mass effect with all the stuff you love please don't worry!!!!!!!".
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
I think, regardless of canonical placement, it'll be about "first contact" style situations. A reverse on ME1's core theme, which was humanity's introduction and presence in the galactic circus. This'll be the other way around: meeting new species that want in on some of that good blue stuff.



GOOD.

Like, I think it's impossible for them to make a post-trilogy game without pissing off fans desperate for their universe to continue. I believe it's fundamentally impossible to do this successfully unless we live in a fantasy universe where BioWare has unlimited time, money, manpower, and talent to make the ultimate game.

If it's post-trilogy I view Mass Effect 4 as very much a new season, a new story, set in whatever universe state best suits that story. I really wish more fans would see from this perspective and realise that the next game set in a new universe doesn't invalidate their choices, because their universe still exists, it just happens to be not the focus of the franchise future.



The worst part is that what the dude leaked about the Citadel DLC makes him verifiable someone who was or is in a position to know shit that goes on at BioWare. Like if this were a GAF poster with that track record you'd assume he was on point.

For what it's worth, his rumour is by far the oldest of the lot. My theory is, based on various rumour mongering, public statements, and time passed, Montreal probably was originally going to work on a first person shooter prequel set during the First Contact War. But the massive ending backlash and fan disinterest in any prequels lead to a huge overhaul of early plans to make something more traditional. Yanick Roy has pretty explicitly said "noooo no no it's gonna be a traditional mass effect with all the stuff you love please don't worry!!!!!!!".
I think Casey Hudson deciding to do a new IP seeming very late in the process also got Montreal's game upgraded to Mass Effect 4.
 

Salcin

Banned
Rumor 3 is like all my worst nightmares combined. I literally hate every aspect of that.

Hoping for #3 man, FPS with good gunplay (imagine Halo with frostbite graphics) together with some sweet sweet mechanics for biotics/engineering/etc (a la Bioshock plasmid/salts).

dreams..
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I think Casey Hudson deciding to do a new IP seeming very late in the process also got Montreal's game upgraded to Mass Effect 4.

ja ja

Basicalllyyyyy (give or take due to cross studio work):
Edmonton #1 = Dragon Age: Inquisition
Edmonton #2 = Hudson's new IP
Montreal = Mass Effect 4
Austin = New project(s)

Hoping for #3 man, FPS with good gunplay (imagine Halo with frostbite graphics) together with some sweet sweet mechanics for biotics/engineering/etc (a la Bioshock plasmid/salts).

dreams..

I'd buy it, but I'd also buy a turd with N7 stamped on it.
 

royox

Member
Hoping for #3 man, FPS with good gunplay (imagine Halo with frostbite graphics) together with some sweet sweet mechanics for biotics/engineering/etc (a la Bioshock plasmid/salts).

dreams..

No! Just no! Stop destroying my games!
 
Nothing. They've done a good job of keeping a tight lid on things. Summary:

What we know fo sho:
- It's not called "Mass Effect 4".
- No Shepard and crew, totally new story and direction for the series.
- Powered by Frostbite 3.
- Will feature "all the staples elements of the franchise".

Rumour #1: PAX private fan demo leak:
- Two new species: one arrogant and skeletal, the other ancient space golems.
- Turian/Asari/etc return, renders shown.
- Greater diversity and detail in alien facial structures.
- More detailed armour customisation.
- Vehicles return to some degree.
- Core themes: exploration and discovery.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.

Rumour #2: My info, based on an old build:
- Titled "Mass Effect: (something)".
- Core themes: exploration.
- New species.
- PC/Xbone/PS4 only. No last gen port planned.
- Multiplayer.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.
- Designed similarly to previous entries: third person, powers, etc.
- Implied that the PAX leak details are believable.

Rumour #3: Guy who successfully leaked very detailed Citadel DLC story/content months before release:
- Titled "Mass Effect: First Contact".
- Prequel, set during the First Contact War.
- First person shooter.
- Greater emphasis on action and shooting over role playing.

That's all we go.

Rumor #3 would be an absolute unequivocal disaster. It would be franchise suicide at a point where story driven FPSs seem to be a dying genre. If that happened, EA are even stupider than they appear to be.
 

AJ_Wings

Member
Nothing. They've done a good job of keeping a tight lid on things. Summary:



Rumour #3: Guy who successfully leaked very detailed Citadel DLC story/content months before release:
- Titled "Mass Effect: First Contact".
- Prequel, set during the First Contact War.
- First person shooter.
- Greater emphasis on action and shooting over role playing.

That's all we go.

I really, really hope this turns out to be false.
 

Andodalf

Banned
Nothing. They've done a good job of keeping a tight lid on things. Summary:

What we know fo sho:
- It's not called "Mass Effect 4".
- No Shepard and crew, totally new story and direction for the series.
- Powered by Frostbite 3.
- Will feature "all the staples elements of the franchise".

Rumour #1: PAX private fan demo leak:
- Two new species: one arrogant and skeletal, the other ancient space golems.
- Turian/Asari/etc return, renders shown.
- Greater diversity and detail in alien facial structures.
- More detailed armour customisation.
- Vehicles return to some degree.
- Core themes: exploration and discovery.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.

Rumour #2: My info, based on an old build:
- Titled "Mass Effect: (something)".
- Core themes: exploration.
- New species.
- PC/Xbone/PS4 only. No last gen port planned.
- Multiplayer.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.
- Designed similarly to previous entries: third person, powers, etc.
- Implied that the PAX leak details are believable.

Rumour #3: Guy who successfully leaked very detailed Citadel DLC story/content months before release:
- Titled "Mass Effect: First Contact".
- Prequel, set during the First Contact War.
- First person shooter.
- Greater emphasis on action and shooting over role playing.

That's all we go.



Any possibility that there are two games? First contact might be a cross gen FPS made by... Somebody. And then a new ME game made by Bioware?
 
Nothing. They've done a good job of keeping a tight lid on things. Summary:

What we know fo sho:
- It's not called "Mass Effect 4".
- No Shepard and crew, totally new story and direction for the series.
- Powered by Frostbite 3.
- Will feature "all the staples elements of the franchise".

Rumour #1: PAX private fan demo leak:
- Two new species: one arrogant and skeletal, the other ancient space golems.
- Turian/Asari/etc return, renders shown.
- Greater diversity and detail in alien facial structures.
- More detailed armour customisation.
- Vehicles return to some degree.
- Core themes: exploration and discovery.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.

Rumour #2: My info, based on an old build:
- Titled "Mass Effect: (something)".
- Core themes: exploration.
- New species.
- PC/Xbone/PS4 only. No last gen port planned.
- Multiplayer.
- Implied, but not confirmed, that it's canonically post-trilogy.
- Designed similarly to previous entries: third person, powers, etc.
- Implied that the PAX leak details are believable.

Rumour #3: Guy who successfully leaked very detailed Citadel DLC story/content months before release:
- Titled "Mass Effect: First Contact".
- Prequel, set during the First Contact War.
- First person shooter.
- Greater emphasis on action and shooting over role playing.

That's all we go.

Be gutted if it's FPS, thanks for the summary anyway
 

Vashetti

Banned
I want more quiet missions.

There's one in the Leviathan DLC where you have to go to this base, and all the people there are really standoffish and you can tell that something is wrong with them.

The general atmosphere is really creepy and sinister. I spent the whole time wondering when these people were gonna swarm me, sadly they don't.

But not every mission has to be guns blazing, balls to the wall, explosathon.
 

prag16

Banned
"If you have no other way to play the series...don't play ME3". Easy as hell.

Me1 and ME2 can be sold for 5$ each other (or both at the same time) on Steam sales or Origin.
Your opinion is noted. Mine differs. Deal with it. Rudely shouting down those who disagree won't get you far.
 

Gurthang

Banned
I want more quiet missions.

There's one in the Leviathan DLC where you have to go to this base, and all the people there are really standoffish and you can tell that something is wrong with them.

The general atmosphere is really creepy and sinister. I spent the whole time wondering when these people were gonna swarm me, sadly they don't.

But not every mission has to be guns blazing, balls to the wall, explosathon.

yeh me too. Some of the missions in Mass Effect had a great creepy and cool atmosphere to it. All of which was lost in next Mass Effect games.
 

prag16

Banned
Rumor #3 would be an absolute unequivocal disaster. It would be franchise suicide at a point where story driven FPSs seem to be a dying genre. If that happened, EA are even stupider than they appear to be.
This..

It would be a heinous atrocity if they turned Mass Effect into another dime a dozen lazy FPS slaughter fest.

If it's a spinoff game... okay... (but that would mean the wait for the next "mainline" game is probably even longer)... if it's the next mainline game... I'll still buy it because like EC I would buy an N7 turd if they sold them..

But didn't somebody from Bioware actually confirm at one point that they went 3rd person again? Or am I remembering incorrectly..
 
Rumor #3 seems like a spinoff game, or a lesser game made within the universe that isn't really the "main" game, like Dead Space:Extraction or whatever the lightgun game was. Why can't there be two different games, maybe alternating between off release years?
 
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