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The Mega-Cave Shooter Post, because they're totally awesome and sweet

I had no idea Strania was getting an arcade release. Shame about it using the Nessica platform though. I remember complaints about the hardware's "always online" setup when BBCSII came out. That, and importing it would be near impossible.
 
_dementia said:
I had no idea Strania was getting an arcade release. Shame about it using the Nessica platform though. I remember complaints about the hardware's "always online" setup when BBCSII came out. That, and importing it would be near impossible.

I'm not sure if the Arcade version will have any differences, but if it doesn't you might as well just play the XBLA version.
 
adversesolutions said:
I'm not sure if the Arcade version will have any differences, but if it doesn't you might as well just play the XBLA version.
Yeah, no use fretting over the arcade version. I just need to pick up a points card :/
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
I would've preordered it but I'm not too sure about Akai Katana itself. Game still looks kinda crappy. Like a bad console arrange released to arcade.

If they did an Ibara/Kuro double-port with a limited edition like that I'd be all over it though.
 

LiK

Member
Yes Boss! said:
NCSX put it up for $180 yesterday. Too rich for my blood. Kinda silly, but kinda neat for the collectors.

well, it's sold out on their site so any impulse for me is gone. altho i guess i should invest in a JPN 360 first, lol...
 
Aigis said:
I would've preordered it but I'm not too sure about Akai Katana itself. Game still looks kinda crappy. Like a bad console arrange released to arcade.

If they did an Ibara/Kuro double-port with a limited edition like that I'd be all over it though.
I have always wanted to try Ibara. Unfortunately I could never justify the high resale prices of the substandard ps2 port, so I'd be all over that if M2 or Arika or Cave handled it. I really liked the look of it.
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
_dementia said:
I have always wanted to try Ibara. Unfortunately I could never justify the high resale prices of the substandard ps2 port, so I'd be all over that if M2 or Arika or Cave handled it. I really liked the look of it.
The PCB has a pretty low market value it seems (for a Cave PCB), it just seems hard to find someone selling it.

I'd like a good port of it though. Cabs are too expensive and I don't want to invest in a supergun. Running my 360 through a VGA cable to a CRT monitor is so much easier.
 

LiK

Member
_dementia said:
I have always wanted to try Ibara. Unfortunately I could never justify the high resale prices of the substandard ps2 port, so I'd be all over that if M2 or Arika or Cave handled it. I really liked the look of it.

i never played Ibara either but i love the design and art. i bought all the figures and have the artbook and OST. now i want the game rereleased for the 360 so i can finally play it, lol
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Ibara seemed like a fun game, but I couldn't tell what the hell I was looking at half the time in the PS2 version. That game NEEDS a 360 port.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
LiK said:
well, it's sold out on their site so any impulse for me is gone. altho i guess i should invest in a JPN 360 first, lol...
Yeah, it was in my cart a few times this morning but could just not justify it (for the box and all). Plus next month was already at like $500 because I got a Blazblue doll shipping.

And Ibara(s) rock! Those are my favorite Cave titles. I'd fricken' kill for those two titles on an HD-upgrade disc. It has gotta happen eventually. GOTTA.
 
Lazy Jones said:
Ibara will be emulated with demul 0.5.7 along with Mushihimesama, Mushi Futari, Espgaulda 2 and Deathsmiles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlCACFMpaoU

I only played the ps2 version. Hard game made even harder by the crappy port / lousy image quality.



tumblr_lhtgkwuY2v1qhvvnno1_400.jpg
 

Risette

A Good Citizen
Dambrosi said:
(as long as they can get the sound to work, that is).
They won't.

Can't believe people are happy about this anyhow. Cave having the arcade platform they still use be emulated is definitely not a good thing.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
hipgnosis said:
So does this edition come with the PCB box? There isn't a mention in the description.
That is just he normal LE which goes for about $110. The one with the Cave box waa the LE Cave Shop Edition. No longer available.

See you on the the 25th. The Akai Katana LE (normal) should be pretty hot. The special limited edition version hopefully available as DLC. Package, as-is, is pretty hot.
 

Dambrosi

Banned
Aigis said:
They won't.

Can't believe people are happy about this anyhow. Cave having the arcade platform they still use be emulated is definitely not a good thing.
Because hopefully, it'll force them to move on to more modern hardware, which I'm sure a lot of us would like to see.

Seriously, if it can be emulated on a mid-to-low-range PC without any problems, a for-profit company probably shouldn't be working on it.
Wii and DS notwithstanding, of course.

Plus, it means that more people can play Ibara in nearly the way it looked and played in the original arcade release, rather than the horrid PS2 version that gives the game a bad name.

Besides:

Lazy Jones said:
They can still release their games, even under their own name, and we'll still buy them, yes?
 
Nice to see DS2 getting released over here. I'll double dip (once it hits the bargain bins) if it has a separate achievement list since the game's pretty easy to 1000/1000. :D

It's a good game, I'd recommend it. Although I'd say DS1 is better in every way.
 
I've been playing a ton of Mushi Futari 1.5 Maniac over the last week or two and I'm finally starting to make some real progress: got a 365m score just now, but I screwed up a few areas and barely made it half way through stage 5. I can definitely hit 400m if I stop fucking everything up all the time. :|

The stage 2 boss is what's really driving me crazy. I've fought him for hours and hours in training mode and I still can't score on him with acceptable consistency. The first phase is no problem at all, I always get a huge gem refill on it. His second and third phase, however, curbstomp me all day. Either I let the second pattern run twice and cash in on his final attack for a good ~50m points, or I wait until his final phase and cash in for ~40-45m points. Either way, both phases have a pattern that are a complete roll of the dice for me. It's kinda hard to describe, but the second phase has that pattern where he shoots walls of bullets and crystals to both sides of the screen (that shoot aimed shots at you) and you have to weave left and right to get through them. Most of the time I get completely closed in by the bullet walls and have no way to get through it. I don't understand this pattern at all. And his third phase is of course the two rings of bullets that are practically impossible to dodge on reaction.

TL;DR: I mad.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
So happy we're getting DeathSmiles 2X! I know it's not supposed to be the best Cave game, but I don't want them to skip any of their titles for Western release (or they can region unlock them).
 
iconoclast said:
I've been playing a ton of Mushi Futari 1.5 Maniac over the last week or two and I'm finally starting to make some real progress: got a 365m score just now, but I screwed up a few areas and barely made it half way through stage 5. I can definitely hit 400m if I stop fucking everything up all the time. :|

The stage 2 boss is what's really driving me crazy. I've fought him for hours and hours in training mode and I still can't score on him with acceptable consistency. The first phase is no problem at all, I always get a huge gem refill on it. His second and third phase, however, curbstomp me all day. Either I let the second pattern run twice and cash in on his final attack for a good ~50m points, or I wait until his final phase and cash in for ~40-45m points. Either way, both phases have a pattern that are a complete roll of the dice for me. It's kinda hard to describe, but the second phase has that pattern where he shoots walls of bullets and crystals to both sides of the screen (that shoot aimed shots at you) and you have to weave left and right to get through them. Most of the time I get completely closed in by the bullet walls and have no way to get through it. I don't understand this pattern at all. And his third phase is of course the two rings of bullets that are practically impossible to dodge on reaction.

TL;DR: I mad.

I never learned the squid loop in 1.5 but I was able to approximate it in Black Label. I can't remember which one it's easier in, possibly 1.5?? But yeah, the 2nd boss was definitely put in there to dangle a cherry in front of your face that can cause you to fuck up the whole run. In BL I think you can get something like 150 mil off of the squid balls alone, so it's pretty essential.

I know what you're talking about re: the bullet wall, for me I always found that it starts kind of randomly so it demands too much improvisation than I'm able to manage in those tight circumstances.

You going to go for 1100 on MF? 1100 is complete for that game as far as I'm concerned.

Hardest achievement up to that point is definitely Reco's Maniac 1.5 clear. Pretty hellacious IIRC.
 

Tain

Member
BocoDragon said:
So happy we're getting DeathSmiles 2X! I know it's not supposed to be the best Cave game, but I don't want them to skip any of their titles for Western release (or they can region unlock them).

It's solidly better than Deathsmiles, so even better.

iconoclast said:
TL;DR: I mad.

Futari Maniac is something on my todo list. I've been meaning to go back to Espgaluda and clear it first, but I've been seduced by belt scroll action games lately.

Too many good games.
 
adversesolutions said:
I never learned the squid loop in 1.5 but I was able to approximate it in Black Label. I can't remember which one it's easier in, possibly 1.5?? But yeah, the 2nd boss was definitely put in there to dangle a cherry in front of your face that can cause you to fuck up the whole run. In BL I think you can get something like 150 mil off of the squid balls alone, so it's pretty essential.

I know what you're talking about re: the bullet wall, for me I always found that it starts kind of randomly so it demands too much improvisation than I'm able to manage in those tight circumstances.

You going to go for 1100 on MF? 1100 is complete for that game as far as I'm concerned.

Hardest achievement up to that point is definitely Reco's Maniac 1.5 clear. Pretty hellacious IIRC.

I haven't tried the squid loop in BL yet, but I think I'll give it a shot today since my BL Maniac score is kinda crappy (323m 1cc I think). And on a side note, I used to think that BL Maniac was waaaaay more fun than 1.5, but I'm actually starting to lean more toward 1.5 the more I play it. I guess I just needed to really sink some time into it for it to click.

I'd like to get 1100 on Futari eventually, but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. I've been playing Reco almost exclusively in Maniac, and to beat Larsa, I'll need to get to her with at least 2 lives in stock and maybe a spare bomb or two. I'm not even thinking about fighting her any more, I'm just trying to score as much as I can before facing her and inevitably getting crushed. She's the one fight that really makes me miss Palm.

Getting 100,000 counter in Black Label has been pretty hard for me too. The most I've had is like 85,000 during stage 5, but of course one death basically means your entire run is screwed. BL Original is evil.
 
I think I've nearly got the entire milk loop down for the stage 2 boss. The bullet wall+crystal pattern isn't really causing me trouble any more, I found a good path through it thanks to this video. Now the part that's causing me trouble is the first time you cash in against him, when he does the two ball attacks. Most of the time I can't destroy the ball before it reaches me, and then I have to roll the dice and dodge through 2 pixels of open space. And if I do manage to do that, I usually die while trying to refill my multiplier on his other balls. But if all goes well, I get about 95m points off him, so it's worth it.

TL;DR: I still mad.
 
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

Just no missed stages 1-3 in Futari Maniac, died once on stage 4, and then I chooooked in stage 5, dying like 3 times before fighting Larsa. God damn it. I got a 428m score though, so I'm happy about that at least. Ranked #37 right now.

I should definitely be able to clear 450m, since I screwed up the stage 2 boss milking, which cost me 40m points. Oh well, maybe next time.
 
iconoclast said:
FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU

Just no missed stages 1-3 in Futari Maniac, died once on stage 4, and then I chooooked in stage 5, dying like 3 times before fighting Larsa. God damn it. I got a 428m score though, so I'm happy about that at least. Ranked #37 right now.

I should definitely be able to clear 450m, since I screwed up the stage 2 boss milking, which cost me 40m points. Oh well, maybe next time.

Damn dude, looking forward to hearing your score after you connect everything up.

That Sapz guy on shmups just claimed the western record the other day for Original, which is pretty amazing. Made me want to hunker down and try to put in a great score on a game for the first time in awhile.
 
adversesolutions said:
Damn dude, looking forward to hearing your score after you connect everything up.

That Sapz guy on shmups just claimed the western record the other day for Original, which is pretty amazing. Made me want to hunker down and try to put in a great score on a game for the first time in awhile.

Yeah, I watched his replay on youtube and it's pretty impressive. No missing the entire game is ridiculous, especially since there are several patterns that are really hard to dodge without bombing. Good stuff.
 

Lambtron

Unconfirmed Member
Holy crap yes, I'm so excited about DeathSmiles IIX. Day one. I hope it sells well and we get the rest of the games they haven't yet released.

Please don't be digital only.
 

danmaku

Member
Nice to see that someone else is still playing Futari. I reached stage 5 once on Maniac 1.5, but with a much lesser score (about 320 millions). I have a pretty consistent strategy for stages 1-3, but in 4 and 5 I can only survive and my score is abysmal.

If you haven't saw it already, you should watch the 1 billion run by Clover-TAC. He takes crazy risks, but he also shows a lot of good strategies that can be adapted for safer ( = less insane) play. Oh, and it will blow your mind.
 
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