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Yes Boss!

Member
Chiaro,

If I recall you live in South America and have a US system. How are you getting games on demand? My US system is here in europe and my US account gets blocked for GoD titles. Even worse, I can not redownload my previous GoD purchases here. Any help?

Also, if anybody might know,

My local store has Princess Debut. Is that one a Cave game proper (to be added to my collection) or is it from a Cave subsidary?
 

CAVE343

Member
According to Siliconera you can't pay with MS Points but only with a CC.

Siliconera said:
Update: Cave have just informed us that Deathsmiles 2X cannot be purchased using Microsoft Points; you’ll need to use a credit card if you want to grab it off Games on Demand.
 
Yes Boss! said:
Chiaro,

If I recall you live in South America and have a US system. How are you getting games on demand? My US system is here in europe and my US account gets blocked for GoD titles. Even worse, I can not redownload my previous GoD purchases here. Any help?

Also, if anybody might know,

My local store has Princess Debut. Is that one a Cave game proper (to be added to my collection) or is it from a Cave subsidary?

It is indeed developed by Cave, but it's not a shmup.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
hikarutilmitt said:
It is indeed developed by Cave, but it's not a shmup.
Oh yeah,

I know it is a fairy-tale dancing game :)

Just kinda wondering if it was by the actual team at Cave that make things like Mushi Bug Panic and the shooters or if it is by a mobile team/second string. Can't really find any info online.
 
Yes Boss! said:
Chiaro,

If I recall you live in South America and have a US system. How are you getting games on demand? My US system is here in europe and my US account gets blocked for GoD titles. Even worse, I can not redownload my previous GoD purchases here. Any help?

Also, if anybody might know,

My local store has Princess Debut. Is that one a Cave game proper (to be added to my collection) or is it from a Cave subsidary?


You have to start and finish the download through a VPN service (the IP checks are at the beginning and end of the download, so you can switch off the VPN in the middle for faster downloading).

The downside of it is that you need a PC with 2 LAN interfaces to do that. You have to access a free or trial VPN service in US, use it in the first LAN interface of the PC (which is connected to ADSL modem/cable/internet), and then share this connection with the 2nd LAN interface (which should be connected directly to Xbox 360). This way your Live connection will go through the VPN service, gaining an US IP address. Looks like a pain, but it is like a 5 minutes job when you get used to it.

And updated: only credit cards payments will be accepted to buy DS2X. No MS points. edited: beated...
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Bah, I don't even have a computer here. Oh well, will download it in a couple of years when I go back to the states...or cart one of my 360s back on leave.

I hope all the titles go up on GoD. The thought of having them all right there on the dash is crazy.

And, DSIIX is fuck-awesome. Don't listen to the hate. As good, or even better than the first.

OMG, downloaded the Akai Katana demo...so cool. Totally my kind of game. Love the frame, too! Awesome art...approaching the neato Ibara stuff! Can't wait till the end of this month.

So many shmups...have not even gotten the Strania or TW DLC yet. Nuts!

Playing some DSIIX this weekend to celebrate its NA release!

Oh yeah: it has always only been credit cards for Games on Demand. Don't know where the confusion began.
 
Yes Boss! said:
Oh yeah: it has always only been credit cards for Games on Demand. Don't know where the confusion began.

Only for Mature games. All other games it is displayed the price in US$, but when you click on it you have the option to swith to MS points.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Chiaroscuro said:
Only for Mature games. All other games it is displayed the price in US$, but when you click on it you have the option to swith to MS points.
Ah,

The only game I ever bought was Dead Space. Well, Psychonauts, too, but that was originally Originals.

Anyways, sucks big time that I can't get my DSIIX next wednesday ;-(
 

Dambrosi

Banned
While the news about DSIIX being on GoD is great, I'm a bit bummed out that there's no news of a Euro release, and we apparently have to pay by card? I hope not in Europe, since the whole PSN fiasco has made me leery of giving my debit card details to anyone if I don't have to.

So, here's hoping for a European boxed release! :D
 

Yes Boss!

Member
tetrisgrammaton said:
Would be happier about GoD if every Xbox wasn't prone to break in the next 2 years, and if their was any guarantee of backwards compatibility.
Your 360 breaks, you can recover your gamertag on any machine. No biggie. I've never had one of my 360s break but I've had no trouble downloading my content to multiple machines.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Everyone who is weary of giving their credit card info to ms should be. I bought some xbla points using a cc on the xbox, and then ms for whatever fucking reason resubscribed me to xbox live gold (which is awesome stuff considering that there is literally nothing worth having gold for, especially with the system's current lineup). I cancelled it last month, and when the gold subscription lapsed, my account somehow got corrupted, so I can't buy any xbla games and can't even redownload the shit I've already bought. I have no fucking idea how much longer they're going to take to fix it. So yeah, I would advise against letting Microsoft anywhere near your credit card.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Gosh,

I've beem buying points for years, since christmas 2005, have about 125 XBLA games, they have half a dozen debit cards on file and no problems.

I do know that it is like two button presses from startup to buy Gold...almost hit it a few times by accident when the TV was changing HDMI signal and I wad handling a stick.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
I, myself, would chalk it up to bad luck, but seriously... What complete bullshit. The most annoying thing was the first two times I had to talk to customer service. They kept going on and on about how it was definitely a problem with my system and said that I'd need to send it in... And I'm like "yeah, other gamer tags work fine on the system, I've tried logging in on two different consoles and games for windows live to no avail... It's a problem on your fucking end.". It sounds like they're actually going to fix it, but it won't be till next week.

It's just retarded... All I want xbox live for is to buy xbla games and stuff, and they're trying to dodge my throwing money at them.

More on topic, though... If deathsmiles 2 comes with the dlc, I'm sold. Otherwise I will probably just pick up the disc version like I'd originally planned.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
What was the DLC?

The preorder bonus (don't remember if that title had one or not), or something else? I don't remember buying anything DLC-wise for the title.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Yes Boss! said:
What was the DLC?

The preorder bonus (don't remember if that title had one or not), or something else? I don't remember buying anything DLC-wise for the title.

IIRC, there was some preorder dlc card that gave you an arranged soundtrack in the game... Not sure if there was some black label mode or something released afterwards, but yeah... I'd at least like that content in the version released in the US. Since there is no other way to get it short of shelling out for it on eBay or something.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Not that I'm complaining.... but this is a really inappropriate time of the year to be releasing a Christmas-themed game :p
 
Started playing Death Smiles 1 again, trying to get the 200m achievement. I spent a few hours learning the volcano recharge, and I think I've got it down pretty consistently now. It's kinda annoying how fickle that technique is. That's one thing I appreciate about DS2 - timing recharges is much easier and far less costly if you mess it up.

But anyway, chapter 4 (Hades Castle) is awful in Death Mode. I already hate the idea of suicide bullets, but at least they're pretty easy to deal with on the first six stages because they're slow and sparse. But of course, on the castle, they move like twice as fast and there are twice as many of them, so they're hard as hell to deal with until you've memorized a route through the stage. That's really the only thing I don't like about this game. Death Mode should have given you harder bullet patterns to dodge, instead of spamming you with a mess of suicide bullets.

Meh, just felt like ranting for a minute. Now I guess it's time to hit training mode. 200m+ shouldn't be too hard if I can actually get the clear.

edit: actually, screw Death Mode. The game is simply not fun with suicide bullets, and 200m looks very possible in a mixed rank run (I've heard of 300m and even 400m mixed rank runs, but I can't find any of them on nico). Adding up all of my best scores gets me around 200m, plus the all clear bonus at the end would be enough to push me over. Now I just need to have a perfect run. Or maybe I should reconsider my stage order... ...and that's actually one thing I really love about this game. It has tons of freedom and customization that DS2 lacks (in arcade mode, anyway).
 
Yay, got 215m on my very first credit today. No missed the entire game on a mixed rank run, but I fucked up at the end and bombed too early on Tyrannosatan, so I wound up getting hit right before I killed him. Ah well, at least I got my achievement. My replay is up on the NA Arcade mode leaderboards as well, if anyone wants to check it out.

Oddly enough, more people have the Death Smiles Virtuoso achievement (1cc version 1.1 with all maps at rank 3 + EX map) than the one for scoring 200m, so maybe I should give that a shot next.
 
iconoclast said:
Yay, got 215m on my very first credit today. No missed the entire game on a mixed rank run, but I fucked up at the end and bombed too early on Tyrannosatan, so I wound up getting hit right before I killed him. Ah well, at least I got my achievement. My replay is up on the NA Arcade mode leaderboards as well, if anyone wants to check it out.

Oddly enough, more people have the Death Smiles Virtuoso achievement (1cc version 1.1 with all maps at rank 3 + EX map) than the one for scoring 200m, so maybe I should give that a shot next.

I have neither :cry:

I'm almost positive I could never hit 300m, what about you?

Really should back and go for the 200 though. This is a good time to clean up some of the challenges still remaining in some of the games that already came out.
 
adversesolutions said:
I have neither :cry:

I'm almost positive I could never hit 300m, what about you?

Really should back and go for the 200 though. This is a good time to clean up some of the challenges still remaining in some of the games that already came out.

No way I'll hit 300m without playing rank 3 on every stage, and since I can't stand playing the final level in Death Mode, I'll probably never try it. The game's just not fun that way imo.

But yeah, I've been putting some time into my older games lately. I might just skip Akai Katana for now and play the stuff I already have. Maybe by the time I get around to it, Cave will have it up on the NA GoD store. :D
 

Nikashi

Banned
Got my Deathsmiles today! Been poking around at it a bit, Have NO idea how I'm gonna get 100m, I guess you just stay at 1000 power the whole time and item collect? Either way, having lots of fun :)
 

Daigoro

Member
_dementia said:
TBH the cave logo ones are the only ones I'd consider buying, but even then I'd have a hard time leaving the house with one on XD
Could be much worse though, they're rather minimalistic as far as game shirts go at the very least.

not sure why. no one ever has any idea what my shirt refers to at all. shit is niche!
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Nikashi said:
Got my Deathsmiles today! Been poking around at it a bit, Have NO idea how I'm gonna get 100m, I guess you just stay at 1000 power the whole time and item collect? Either way, having lots of fun :)
Jeez, shit took forever. The mother was supposed to just push it through to Canada quick-like but sent it to euroland instead. Then I was away for work for the end of april. Usuallly these things get sent fast but this one just got delayed :-( Good that you finally recieved it.
 

Nikashi

Banned
Yes Boss! said:
Jeez, shit took forever. The mother was supposed to just push it through to Canada quick-like but sent it to euroland instead. Then I was away for work for the end of april. Usuallly these things get sent fast but this one just got delayed :-( Good that you finally recieved it.


Thank you again so much, and don't worry, I was happy as heck to get it and have been playing it a ton :)
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Looks like Cave has launched a new website for the overseas audience. Good news to see them continue their dedication to fans outside Japan. And Akai Katana art is used on the website.. make of that what you will ;)

http://caveinteractive.com/
 

hipgnosis

Member
BocoDragon said:
Looks like Cave has launched a new website for the overseas audience. Good news to see them continue their dedication to fans outside Japan. And Akai Katana art is used on the website.. make of that what you will ;)

http://caveinteractive.com/
This is pretty good news, good thing they are focusing on the western audience more and more.

Rising Star Games is announcing new titles next month, I'm almost sure there will be some new CAVE games for the 360, hoping they'll announce Daifukkatsu or Akai Katana.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
BocoDragon said:
Looks like Cave has launched a new website for the overseas audience. Good news to see them continue their dedication to fans outside Japan. And Akai Katana art is used on the website.. make of that what you will ;)

http://caveinteractive.com/
Honestly, it's about time they did. No different than at least including English subtitles for DSII.

Which I did pick up today with my Spacebucks ^_^. Hopefully the rest which aren't Regional-free will follow. Be awesome to get Akai... and maybe even the 5pb ports.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
shintoki said:
No different than at least including English subtitles for DSII.

The lack of English subtitles in DSII doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I get the impression the alternative would be no release at all. It was a proposition from Microsoft. "That game no one wants to localize, Cave? Why not release it yourself for zero effort or moneys?"

Besides.. it's a SHMUP and many of us have imported region free Japanese Cave games before... this just delivers it to us immediately instead of making us do the importing. And it's too late to region free the disc (they were probably hoping for an Aksys localization when they locked it... but sales of DS1 killed that hope?)

How many retail imports have been given English translations in digital versions anyway? Most VC and PS1 downloads have been untranslated. Sin and Punishment 2 and soon Monster World IV are some of the rare, rare exceptions.. and those are from big guns Nintendo and Sega. Even Square has never translated an import VC game. Cave certainly won't!

What did bother me is the surprise lack of Canadian release XD (Cave's working on that error).
 
BocoDragon said:
Looks like Cave has launched a new website for the overseas audience. Good news to see them continue their dedication to fans outside Japan. And Akai Katana art is used on the website.. make of that what you will ;)

http://caveinteractive.com/
Interesting. Of all thier console ports, Akai seems most likely for a DSIIX style digital release, what with the 16:9 and all. :p
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
_dementia said:
Interesting. Of all thier console ports, Akai seems most likely for a DSIIX style digital release, what with the 16:9 and all. :p
I'd almost expect a full retail release for this.

I suppose we'll find out at E3. Then we will figure out if Aksys or someone else is still interested in North American retail releases of Cave SHMUPS...

If not, then this Games on Demand thing will be our savior....
 
Got the Virtuoso achievement in Death Smiles. It actually wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be; it only took me a few hours of practice once I learned how to deal with Jitterbug's final attack. My run went horribly, too - I went in to the final stage with 1.5 lives, but I no miss'd everything up to Tyrannosatan and killed him by the skin of my teeth. Was kinda surprised I did it, since I was ready to ragequit and start over after finishing the Canyon.

Well, that puts me up to 925/1000 on the NA version. I probably won't bother going for the final two achievements (300m and defeat Bloody Jitterbug in MBL (lol)), so I think I'll move on to another game for now. I'll probably go finish the last Ketsui achievements once I get the new dashboard update.

Awesome game though, definitely one of my favorites.
 

Nikashi

Banned
Well beat the game, no continues till hades castle, continued ONCE to get to Jitterbug then maybe 2-3 total to finish the game after that. I think I can manage a 1cc if I keep practicing.

Also played some MBL and 1.1, 1.1 is NUTS with the bonus items haha.
 

Dambrosi

Banned
_dementia said:
Isn't Akai Katana kinda bad for a cave game though?
I was grinning like a moron all through the demo (which gave me major Progear vibes, but I liked Progear, so take that as you will), so I can't see how it could be bad.

Speaking of which, the demo was sweet as. Two whole levels and all three ships available to blast through them, it's quite a sizable morsel to chew on. And like I said, I liked Progear no Arashi, while I know certain shmup fans didn't for some reason, so your mileage may vary, but it did feel a lot like Progear to me.

Oh, btw - does anyone have any news of a UK Deathsmiles 2 release? Anyone? Beuller?
 

Nikashi

Banned
Tain said:
You can definitely get the clear, especially if you're getting both extends. gogogo


And I just finally decided I AM good enough to clear shit on Level 3 too haha. I can get both Life ups and at LEAST 1 extend that way. I love seeing maxed out power up items with the shower of +10000s, so satisfying. I almost always do C1 > A2 > A1 > C2 > B2 > C2 now, is that a pretty good path? I like to get the 1000 on C1 and just bust it out a little ways into A2, then do the same from the end of A2 > A1, then use it again on C2 where there's a SICK amount of points from the volcano. I almost unintentionally got a 0 > 1000 powerup by hitting the large green cyclops just as it was ending on B2 as well, but I haven't replicated that yet.
 
Nikashi said:
And I just finally decided I AM good enough to clear shit on Level 3 too haha. I can get both Life ups and at LEAST 1 extend that way. I love seeing maxed out power up items with the shower of +10000s, so satisfying. I almost always do C1 > A2 > A1 > C2 > B2 > C2 now, is that a pretty good path? I like to get the 1000 on C1 and just bust it out a little ways into A2, then do the same from the end of A2 > A1, then use it again on C2 where there's a SICK amount of points from the volcano.

There are a few good paths, but I'd say the easiest one for a clear would be: B1 > C2 > C1 > A2 (rank 3) > A1 (rank 3) > B2 (rank 2). That way you'll get 4 health pick ups before going into the final stage. Just make sure you play at least two stages on rank 1 or 2 so you don't trigger suicide bullets. And remember to kill Jitterbug without bombing, because he drops a cake that restores two bars of health as well.

I almost unintentionally got a 0 > 1000 powerup by hitting the large green cyclops just as it was ending on B2 as well, but I haven't replicated that yet.

Yeah, this is the recharge technique. You can immediately refill your meter if you trigger lots of gold crowns just as your power up is about to end. There are a bunch of different areas you can do this on, but the easiest one to learn is on B1. Right before you reach the boss, where there are lots of those snake/vine enemies, hit your bomb and hold A+B. It'll wipe out all of the enemies and the screen will be full of gold crowns. You'll get back up to 1000 instantly.
 

Gaspode_T

Member
Asada said in an interview that they fixed all the complaints about arcade Akai Katana for the home release, which is probably part of why it miraculously is getting good reviews even from Weekly Famitsu
 
So Cave just announced Mushihime-sama version 1.5.

ss08.jpg


Elixir said:
- Max power is optionally selectable from the beginning with four options, but the initial number of bombs starts at 1 (max 6). Enemies are stronger in this mode.
- Music's entirely different, by Ryu Umemoto (of Galuda II and Akai Katana fame)
- To be sold at the end of next weekend between 5/27 12:00 through 20:00 JST, and 5/28 12:00 until 20:00 JST.
- Includes PCB, illustration set, and B1 poster.
- 180,000 yen.

More pics at the link: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=36751

Very surprising. Hopefully they'll do an HD port that includes both 1.5 and 1.0.
 
That's a brand new Mushi 1 PCB version for Arcade , will take a while for a 360 port I think but that would be great because the PS2 version of Mushihimesama looks pretty bad !

Not sure why they decided to change the original music , I loved it .
 
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