The Mega-Cave Shooter Post, because they're totally awesome and sweet
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daaayum! shows how much I know. *crawls back into his cave(pun intended)*
Maybe it's the crappy youtube quality, but the graphics don't look great. Especially those ugly golden tokens.
I thought so too. It seems low res, but that might be because I've been playing DDP Resurrection HD on iPad.
It is low res, it's still the old SH3 hardware. I was talking about the general look of sprites, bullets and backgrounds. Arcade DFK looked better, but maybe it's just this video. Character design is great, though.
sixteen-bit
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masuta!
Muchi Muchi Pink
Member
I thought dfk looked pretty meh on some super-plays. I'm pretty sure it's the yt compression. Also Arcade -> Port was a huge leap in terms of graphics. Btw. if you're in Japan: Hey! Arcade has Sai Daioujou running now.
adversesolutions
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Early info on SDOJ location test from 2ch:
"1UP found, not sure of conditions to produce it."
"Game is easy up to stage 3, but stage 4 and 5 are savagery."
"Stage 3 is so hard I laughed. What was that whole business about 'bringing new players in'?"
"Stage 4 is trying to fucking kill you."
"1UP found, not sure of conditions to produce it."
"Game is easy up to stage 3, but stage 4 and 5 are savagery."
"Stage 3 is so hard I laughed. What was that whole business about 'bringing new players in'?"
"Stage 4 is trying to fucking kill you."
To Far Away Times
Member
The wait for this game just got about a 1,000 times harder. The art style and music were nice.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Man, game looks pretty rad. Been watching that trailer nonstop since it came out.
Still have to put in my preorder for Mushihime... AmiAmi's probably the best place to get it, right? IIRC, it was like $72 there, and like $98 from NCSX.
Still have to put in my preorder for Mushihime... AmiAmi's probably the best place to get it, right? IIRC, it was like $72 there, and like $98 from NCSX.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Oh God it totally is DOJ. What the fuck.
That's how I'd describe most Cave games though, like a moderate ramp up for 1-3 then 4 blows up in your face and 5 (if you get to it) kills you and the rest of your family.
adversesolutions
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EOJ has posted his impressions over at CAVE-STG.
http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1507.msg29012#new
Highlights:
"Easily the best DDP game. Ever. Made."
"This game will wipe the floor with all the scrubs out there. It's old-school Cave done right."
Go read the whole thing.
http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1507.msg29012#new
Highlights:
"Easily the best DDP game. Ever. Made."
"This game will wipe the floor with all the scrubs out there. It's old-school Cave done right."
Go read the whole thing.
Yes because there's such a huge community of shooting game fans that we actually have scrubs :V
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
welp, i'm out
(still can't beat DOJ 1-4)
WIMP
iconoclast
Member
SDOJ sounds pretty awesome. Can't wait until some high level videos start coming out.
Since the Expert ship is going to be harder than the others, I really hope that means it won't have a second loop. Difficulty selection > loops.
Since the Expert ship is going to be harder than the others, I really hope that means it won't have a second loop. Difficulty selection > loops.
adversesolutions
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He said "harder than Futari 1.5 Maniac". Wow...that's a comparison I instantly understand.
With Reco, it's probably the toughest shooter I've beaten (much more doable with Palm). Took me about 2 weeks of constant play to pull it off even after beating almost every other Futari mode (besides Ultra and God of course).
With Reco, it's probably the toughest shooter I've beaten (much more doable with Palm). Took me about 2 weeks of constant play to pull it off even after beating almost every other Futari mode (besides Ultra and God of course).
LeadenStride
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It looks... perfect. Do want!
tearsofash
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I feel like I've fallen out of the loop since the waiting is so long. What's coming out soon? Akai Katana is getting a US release, I'm pretty sure. But are there some NTSC-J region frees coming out soon that I should preorder?
Nope. Mushi 1 is coming, but it won't be region free.
LeadenStride
Member
Seems like there won't be no more region free games coming. At least not for the X360.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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No, sound is crappy.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
This is pretty encouraging. I've wanted Cave to go back to a no-nonsense shmup for a while, and it sounds like this is it.
And the music is so goddamn good. Ima be trancing out more than dodging bullets.
To Far Away Times
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SDOJ looks awesome but I don't think my body is ready.
adversesolutions
Member
Played it for about two hours last night.
I'll defer to other's reviews. For now all I'll say is that we didn't see Stage 5, once. And there were some good players on the machines.
I'll defer to other's reviews. For now all I'll say is that we didn't see Stage 5, once. And there were some good players on the machines.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
DOJ is Daioujou.
We're talking about Saidaioujou, which is the newest Dodonpachi game.
Which is also apparently hard as hell.
Or has hard as my dick when I think about playing a great Cave shmup.
Very.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Sounds awesome. I guess I'll get barked out of this thread for saying that I mainly only play Cave games on my iPad, though. I guess I have played through a handful on console/arcade, but i honestly love how easy it is to control on ios. This new game sounds excellent. Is it a crime to hope this makes it to portable screens?
Edit: Is Daioujou the same as Blissful Death?
I arrived at this thread from playing iOS Cave shmups and I have no shame. I'm just happy to have discovered this stuff. I haven't been this excited about gaming in a long time.
I'd love to see SDOJ on any platform that I can reasonably obtain/play. Until then I'll have to keep checking my local movie theater for a DDP cabinet (lol). And my fingers are always crossed for more Cave on iOS, I hope their games are selling well enough to facilitate it. My first non-iOS Cave games should be arriving this week though, and I'm super excited to get Akai Katana.
edit: iOS Cave folks add me on GC if you want some (non)competition: "ZethGAF" I'm working on BP2/Futari Hell 1CC. Best on hard is 152mil (Original).
I'd love to see SDOJ on any platform that I can reasonably obtain/play. Until then I'll have to keep checking my local movie theater for a DDP cabinet (lol). And my fingers are always crossed for more Cave on iOS, I hope their games are selling well enough to facilitate it. My first non-iOS Cave games should be arriving this week though, and I'm super excited to get Akai Katana.
edit: iOS Cave folks add me on GC if you want some (non)competition: "ZethGAF" I'm working on BP2/Futari Hell 1CC. Best on hard is 152mil (Original).
Anything that puts money in Cave's pockets to keep making more awesome shooters is good, so no, no laughter
(ok, only a little)
Their portable versions are pretty amazing really, the control is surprisingly tight
Yeah, while Resurrection is Daifukkatsu if you weren't sure about that one.
da_stabbah
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with all the talk about the iOS versions of CAVE shooters, which is the best one to get? more then one good? all are good? I have both a 4S iPhone and iPad 2.
let me know CAVE-gaf
let me know CAVE-gaf
with all the talk about the iOS versions of CAVE shooters, which is the best one to get? more then one good? all are good? I have both a 4S iPhone and iPad 2.
let me know CAVE-gaf
My favorites are Espgaluda II and Bug Princess 2, but Dodonpachi Resurrection and Bug Princess 1 are okay too. I don't really care for Dodonpachi Blissful Death, and Deathsmiles isn't quite as well suited to iOS (it's horizontal, so your finger ends up obstructing the action).
FrontalMonk
Banned
I've been playing these primarily on my iphone, I found that it's surprisingly hard to find a way to hold an ipad at an angle with one hand and tap with my thumb for laser/bomb and to use my other hand to move...it's easier to just move on the phone with my thumb and have a second hand ready to tap laser...but also because cave shmups are just really expensive for me to import right now. I might be able to swing a couple in a month or two (and really want to get Akai Katana), but for the moment, just a little low on funds.
DDP Maximum is the hardest Cave mobile game? This is bananas (spoiler-ish secret final boss at 2:30)
http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm17195169
The guy barely loses...insane skills to even get to that level...funny that half of the comments are "OMG I want to play this, why does it have to be on Windows Phone"
I can't even beat the second 'easy' stage yet...
http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm17195169
The guy barely loses...insane skills to even get to that level...funny that half of the comments are "OMG I want to play this, why does it have to be on Windows Phone"
I can't even beat the second 'easy' stage yet...
mjemirzian
Banned
DOJ Part 2 looks like a great return to form. I think DOJ would have been much better received if it had multiple difficulty levels.
Cave has said they aren't making 360 games anymore, but I'd be pretty disappointed if it didn't make it out of arcades to a console that supported arcade sticks (sorry smartphone lovers).
Cave has said they aren't making 360 games anymore, but I'd be pretty disappointed if it didn't make it out of arcades to a console that supported arcade sticks (sorry smartphone lovers).
They're all solid with the caveat of scoring being kind of hard cause they're all auto shot with a separate shot on/off button, with the exception of Deathsmiles which has a full manual shot option (haven't tried Bug Princess 2 though).with all the talk about the iOS versions of CAVE shooters, which is the best one to get? more then one good? all are good? I have both a 4S iPhone and iPad 2.
let me know CAVE-gaf
Otherwise if you're going to be playing on both devices I'd suggest one of the universal apps just so they fill the screen on the iPad, or ideally one of the "HD" ones (just Espgaluda II and DDP:R for now) since both your devices can play them. Just try the lite versions out. If you're cheap but still want high res, there's separate arcade and smartphone mode versions of Espgaluda II. The smartphone mode is tweaked version with touchscreen specific kakusei mode and new soundtrack, I don't really care for it but some people like the change up.
When playing on iPad I just have it resting on something so I don't have to hold it at all.
Android supports controllers...but the international store situation is still a mess I think. iOS has iCade but that's not an official thing so I don't expect Cave to support that, hopefully official controller support eventually comes. Hell enable apps and the Bluetooth chip on Apple TV and you have the potential for a $99 Cave console (if the single core A5 can handle the games in HD). I've wondered how much it'd cost to make Mac ports with digital input, god knows I've seen a bunch of iOS-Mac ones on the Mac App Store, even lazy listings just using iPad screenshots with fingers and touch inputs.
As for DOJ I was fine with the difficulty as far as survivability, but I couldn't stand playing it for score. The timing window of the chaining system with the level layout made it overly strict for me when trying to score well (and I'm someone that had no problem with Ikaruga).
gunstarhero
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If you're still in the market for this, shoot me a PM - I was about to throw mine up one ebay.