I'm cautiously excited, but I can't for the life of me remember a single song from The Crucible of Man. Actually, I don't think I've enjoyed anything they've done since Horror Show. I also did not know that Barlow left again, but even he couldn't save The Crucible of Man so I guess I'm ok with that.TheLastCandle said:
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Lionheart1827
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TheLastCandle said:
I would recommend getting Andromeda Unchained as it is easily the most listenable, then The Detached, and if you're still interested, A Perfect Forever(different singer). Stay away from Purification(their first).
TheLastCandle
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Doomshine said:
I thought Glorious Burden was ok, and I actually very much enjoyed Framing Armageddon, but Crucible was just so, SO boring. Good lord. All i want from Iced Earth is to get pummeled over the head with gallops and wailing lead vocals and I hope they deliver with this.
Lionheart1827 said:
Will do. I'll give the first two a listen when I get the chance.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Giant Robot said:
Their first three albums (Orchid, Morningrise and Your Arms, My Hearse) were mainly Melodic Death Metal with Prog elements and long songs. The following albums (Still Life, Blackwater Park, Deliverance and Damnation) amped up the Prog, especially the last three of those four albums as they were produced by Porcupine Tree's Steven Wilson. The albums following (Ghost Revereies and Watershed) maintained some of the Prog but there was a distinct drop in quality as some members of the band had left and it felt that some of the unique soul of the band was missing.
The new album looks likely it will right the wrongs of thei last two, especially seeing as Steven Wilson is back on board (for mixing duties not producing) and his influence can only be a good thing.
Opus Angelorum
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malfcn said:
Interesting direction for Chimaira, I like it.
Witchfinder General said:
I never understood this evaluation. GR is quality all the way through, and W, while breaking in a new drummer (come back to us Lopez!!) and guitarist, has moments of unbelievable brilliance. I know that we are arguing over trifles, as all their albums are great, but stating that both of those albums were a distinct drop in quality just does not compute. And the soul of the band has always been Akerfeldt.
Witchfinder General
punched Wheelchair Mike
Help Me! said:
Eh, Opeth have always been spotty when it comes to album quality.
Orchid: Shit
Morningrise: Excellent
My Arms, Your Hearse: Mostly bad except for Demon of the Fall which is only good live.
Still Life: Very good, if a little bloated and uneven
Blackwater Park: Their magnum opus
Deliverence: Very good although it could use a little bit more variety
Damnation: Very good but would have been better had it been released with Deliverance as a double album liked the band wanted
Ghost Reveries: Technically accomplished but ultimately dull and mechanical
Watershed: This album is so dull I have no memory of a single song off it
I don't think I would call any of them "shit," but I like some better than others. Still, most of their stuff is better than 98% of the stuff out there, so I guess I might rate them too highly.
Today I would rate them as: My Arms, Your Hearse>Ghost Reveries>Blackwater Park>Damnation>Still Life>Deliverance>Watershed>Morningrise>Orchid: Tomorrow may be different.
Today I would rate them as: My Arms, Your Hearse>Ghost Reveries>Blackwater Park>Damnation>Still Life>Deliverance>Watershed>Morningrise>Orchid: Tomorrow may be different.
SpartanForce
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My God Opeth its fucking glorious.
British Monsoon
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Witchfinder General said:
Those two are the wrong way round.
Phobophile
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HammerOfThor said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0001ARCFA/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Bought these after getting a recommendation from a metalhead at work who's been using these for almost 30 years. He's only on his second pair. The first one fell apart. The hardware worked fine; but everything else just fell apart. I read some reviews and snagged them a week ago when they were on sale for $80.
I'm a big fan of trying to listen to an album as accurately as the band or artist would want to present it. And I'd like to think these studio headphones do a good job in that. You can really appreciate an album's production value so much more with these than just bookshelf speakers and a sub.
TheLastCandle said:
iced earth best stuff was all pre burnt offerings, self titled and night of the stormrider have some bad ass riffs. and burnt has the monster dante's inferno. they started getting bad with all the barlowe/paul stanley ballads. i haven't really listened to them since something wicked though.
Korranator
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Witchfinder General said:
the fuck? This post is all kinds of backward.
Regarding Orchid:
The twilight is my robe is not shit.
My Arms, Your Hearse is actually better than Morningrise, and Still Life is their Opus.
Vanillalite
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Witchfinder General said:
Not sure if it's a Symphony X vibe, but I'm digging this way more than their last few albums. Something just never clicked with me on their last few albums. Not sure if it was the new drummer or the they handled the added in keys or what... but I'm digging this... though something about the keys really did annoy me especially on the watershed album...
Secks4Food
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Giant Robot said:
That new song really doesn't sound like anything they've done before, but yeah the prog has always been there and getting more prevalent over time.
I respect Witchfinder General's list, I'd say it goes more like:
Orchid: Amateur, unpolished, but ambitious and you can hear a very promising band in the making. Has some very long songs, the prog influence is obvious.
MorningRise: Pretty much what Orchid should have been, still kind of uneven but mostly excellent. Even longer and more progressive songs.
My Arms Your Hearse: Has it's moments but pretty forgettable overall, Demon of the Fall and Credence are great songs though. Sets the pace for future albums of songs songs that are less than ten minutes long, but not much less.
Still Life: This is where all the pieces begin to fall into place, amazing riffs and song structure, drums and bass aren't quite up to snuff yet...still some of the best stuff they've ever done.
Blackwater Park: Mendez and Lopez find their niche in the band alongside the great guitars and vocals, the drums are much more expressive and the bass much more prominent, usually considered their best work along with Still Life.
Deliverance: Sounds rushed, many recycled riffs, sounds heavy just for the sake of heaviness, song lengths increase...it's decent but definitely my least favorite album.
Damnation: Gets rid of the heaviness, no death growls or double bass drumming here, very 70's, very jazzy, very good, easily the most instrumentally balanced album of the bunch.
Ghost Reveries: Excellent album, and the last one to feature the classic lineup; the use of open D-minor 9 tuning is truly inspired, just a really cool guitar tuning that suits them perfectly. Also, they only dabbled in keyboards previously, this is the first album with very prominent hammond/mellotron parts. Probably the album the bests balances the death metal/progressive rock thing.
Watershed: I hated this album at first, but I've grown to really like it...the addition of a new guitarist and drummer along with woodwinds, strings, increased keyboard presence, a lot of dissonance and weird art rock bullshit thrown in makes it an interesting album, to say the least. It's still pretty progressive, but not in your standard 70's kinda of way.
Here's the songs that best represent each album since Blackwater Park imo:
Deliverance-Deliverance (live)
Damnation-Windowpane (live)
Ghost Reveries-Ghost of Perdition
Watershed-The Lotus Eater
Give Horror Show a listen if you haven't, it's not bad at all.yacobod said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i758tgh7J48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5JSYiNrcc
eudaemonic
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New Gojira...
... fiending...
GAHHHH!
Anyone happen to listen to the new EP early? Besides the YouTube track that is.
... fiending...
GAHHHH!
Anyone happen to listen to the new EP early? Besides the YouTube track that is.
makingmusic476
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Horror Show was my favorite IE album for a long while, and it's still up there, duking it out with the Dark Saga depending on my mood.Doomshine said:
There are so many awesome riffs melded into each song, Barlow's vocals are at the top of their game, and it's when they really hit their stride from a production standpoint. The form of their tracks was tightened and fine tuned progressively from Burnt Offerings, to Dark Saga, to Something Wicked, to Horror Show, and they've been at that level ever since. It's like that's the album where Jon really got it, if you know what I mean.
If only the riffs and melodies of Framing Armageddon and the Crucible of Man were on the level of their older stuff. They seem to have lost something with the new albums. The form seems the same, but it just doesn't grab my attention like the older stuff did.
I presume this:evlcookie said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBB5W2nQ8Ms
From the youtube description:
Featuring Devin Townsend and Fredrik Thordendal (Meshuggah), off the untitled Sea Shepherd EP.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Not toooo sure about the new Opeth song. The music is good, but something about Åkerfeldt's vocals seem off. No doubt it just needs to grow on me. I felt similar to Tool - 10,000 Days.
Watershed is amazing. Ghost Reveries is the dud.
corkscrewblow said:
Watershed is amazing. Ghost Reveries is the dud.
SOME-MIST
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Blotted Science has a preview for their 2nd CD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvZfHcX8s3c&feature=share
Kind of bummed that Charlie Zeleny (behold... the arctopus) isn't drumming on this CD, but Hannes Grossmann (Obscura, Necrophagist) does just fine.
Lineup for this EP will be much like the last with the exception of Grossmann. Ron Jarzombek (Spastic Ink, Watchtower, Gordion Knot) on Guitars, and Alex Webster (Cannibal Corpse) on Bass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvZfHcX8s3c&feature=share
Kind of bummed that Charlie Zeleny (behold... the arctopus) isn't drumming on this CD, but Hannes Grossmann (Obscura, Necrophagist) does just fine.
Lineup for this EP will be much like the last with the exception of Grossmann. Ron Jarzombek (Spastic Ink, Watchtower, Gordion Knot) on Guitars, and Alex Webster (Cannibal Corpse) on Bass.
Giant Robot
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SOME-MIST said:
Ah man, I had forgotten about this project band.
I'd wish Ron and Bobby would go back and re-record the first Spastic Ink album.
SOME-MIST
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that would be incredible! I'm just sure it would be hard to get all the old members together for even a single session. Watchtower (one of Ron's bands - Bobby isn't in it tho) was going to record their latest album but Ron and the band has been stuck looking for a vocalist :/Giant Robot said:
Giant Robot
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SOME-MIST said:
As long as it isn't Jason McMaster on vocals. I actually like Alan Tecchio's vocals. Just the right bizaareness for Watchtower.
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I've been listening to Fenriz's A Fist in the Face of God mixtapes and stumbled across this song: Whiplash "The Burning of Atlanta."
Giant Robot
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Nunslaughter did a hilarious live radio show a long time ago. In between tracks were nothing but stupid cmoedic gold. You can hear them laughing at themselves too.
Nunslaughter - The Dead Plauge (Live Radio Damnation)
Nunslaughter - The Dead Plauge (Live Radio Damnation)
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
bounchfx said:
Ghost Reveries is the most boring album Opeth has released, yet I'm the only person I know who feels this way
.Spectacular Dr Dawg
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Grave are playing near me in august. Has anyone seen them live recently? Are they still worth seeing?
Also Godflesh are playing in helsiniki in september and they're playing mostly material from streetcleaner this tour. Hopefully I'll be able to see them then.
Also Godflesh are playing in helsiniki in september and they're playing mostly material from streetcleaner this tour. Hopefully I'll be able to see them then.
Giant Robot
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Spectacular Dr Dawg said:
:bow
expect some technical difficulties at Godflesh
What material will Grave play? Either way, they are pretty decent and brutal live.
Spectacular Dr Dawg
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FUCK! Grave aren't playing near meGiant Robot said::bow
expect some technical difficulties at Godflesh
What material will Grave play? Either way, they are pretty decent and brutal live.
fucking youtube said that they are playing but it' s some band called Dead Elvis & His One Man Grave. Why did they include that function when it clearly doesn't work.Well atleast Godflesh are still playing with some band called pedigree from estonia supporting.
Here they sound like ministry + later Pitchshifter
Here they sound like Godflesh
Not very exciting :/
That new OPETH song is sick as fuck! I probably shouldn't have listened to it so late at night while I'm home alone. Now I'm freaked out haha!
I had a similar impression. I was totally into the music from the beginning, but when the vocals started I was put off a little.EatChildren said:
TheLastCandle
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Verano said:
Still Life is the most boring release.
I feel as though I've heard every single opinion regarding Metal over the years and years I've been following it... but this would be the first time I've heard someone call Still Life the most boring Opeth album. I'd probably go with Orchid.
StealthGoblin
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TheLastCandle said:
Same. Still Life is universally proclaimed as a 'feels good man' album.
Giant Robot
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TheLastCandle said:
I gave Still Life a few listens and could never get into it. Haven't listened to it since release. I'm quite the opposite as most people in here and think Orchid was fucking great. Stiff production and all.
Giant Robot
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Morningrise is so good.
The song Godhead's Lament was great. I remember that one sticking out. I guess I'll have to give Still Life a listen again.
friend sent me this:
Metallica - Fight Fire With Fire slowed down. Sounds like Boltthrower!
Slayer - Raining Blood slowed down. Sounds like Repulsion!
The song Godhead's Lament was great. I remember that one sticking out. I guess I'll have to give Still Life a listen again.
friend sent me this:
Metallica - Fight Fire With Fire slowed down. Sounds like Boltthrower!
Slayer - Raining Blood slowed down. Sounds like Repulsion!
EatChildren said:Ghost Reveries is the most boring album Opeth has released, yet I'm the only person I know who feels this way
I felt like that for a long time. I was very disappointed with the album when it was released. Now I think it's the best Opeth album.
Preordered Heritage CD+DVD today. The new song is one of the best Opeth songs I've heard. Can't wait!
TheLastCandle
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I really like the 2 newest Opeth albums, but that could be because I am a god damned sucker for some tasty organ.
Morningrise is really awesome though, especially the bass playing. It bounces all over the frigging place. The only Opeth albums I find myself never listening to are Orchid and MAYH, aside from the obligatory Demon of the Fall.
And all this Opeth talk has me recalling my favorite Opeth memory; watching them play at Gigantour and listening to a lawn full of ancy Lamb of God fans heckle them and call them every name in the book. It was the best thing ever watching Akerfeldt troll them by announcing Windowpane and then proceeding to torture their shirtless, camo shorts wearing asses with 8 minutes of acoustic deliciousness.
Morningrise is really awesome though, especially the bass playing. It bounces all over the frigging place. The only Opeth albums I find myself never listening to are Orchid and MAYH, aside from the obligatory Demon of the Fall.
And all this Opeth talk has me recalling my favorite Opeth memory; watching them play at Gigantour and listening to a lawn full of ancy Lamb of God fans heckle them and call them every name in the book. It was the best thing ever watching Akerfeldt troll them by announcing Windowpane and then proceeding to torture their shirtless, camo shorts wearing asses with 8 minutes of acoustic deliciousness.
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