October 16th
holy shit, I love this stuff!
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
The Metal Thread
- Thread starter Diseased Yak
- Start date
- Status
holy shit, I love this stuff!
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Ziltoid is Devin's most progressive stuff...
In the Epicloud commentary, he said he was getting back to progressive metal and that Epicloud is not representative of what he is going to be doing in the future.
Terria? Infinity maybe? Alien maybe? Deconstruction?
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Deconstruction, but that's splitting hairs. Ziltoid is a straight up progressive metal concept album.
Most of his albums have at least a loose overarching theme, but eh.
Seems odd to me to single out Ziltoid specifically.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
It's odd that you would find that odd.
Hmm... Ziltoid does have an overarching concept, but I don't think that specifically makes it any more progressive. I suppose it does have those elements, I just don't necessarily think of it as being as progressive as some of his other albums like Terria, Infinity, or even Synchestra.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
It's more than an overarching concept (which does make it more progressive, by definition), it's a narrative.
This has gotten silly. It's most definitely one of the best examples of progressive metal, Devin Townsend or not.
Ixion
Member
Since we're on the topic of Devin, I guess I'll post the last two albums I listened to:
Strapping Young Lad - Alien
Genre: Progressive Metal, Extreme Metal
Released: 2005
Rating: 4.5/5
This is my favorite album so far from this band. Not only is this a very consistent album, but it's more progressive and has a greater concern for pacing (partly due to the soft piece, 'Two Weeks', which provides a nice reprieve between the chaos). 'Skeksis' might be one of the most structurally interesting metal songs I've ever heard, while 'Shitstorm' vents Devin's anger in a very enjoyable way. In the middle of the song, there's a certain build-up and eventual climax that is very satisfying. Additionally, the occasional use of deep bass drops throughout the album is something I've never really heard before in this type of music, but I felt they were used sparingly enough to emphasize certain moments without becoming tiresome.
The Gathering - Nighttime Birds
Genre: Progressive Metal, Gothic Metal
Released: 1997
Rating: 4/5
Another extremely solid album from these folks. This album sees the band moving more towards progressive song structures, but overall, the sound is still very similar to the preceding album. Every song is enjoyable, but like with Mandylions, it will take quite a few listens to distinguish some of these songs, as this band can sound pretty 'samey'.
Strapping Young Lad - Alien
Genre: Progressive Metal, Extreme Metal
Released: 2005
Rating: 4.5/5
This is my favorite album so far from this band. Not only is this a very consistent album, but it's more progressive and has a greater concern for pacing (partly due to the soft piece, 'Two Weeks', which provides a nice reprieve between the chaos). 'Skeksis' might be one of the most structurally interesting metal songs I've ever heard, while 'Shitstorm' vents Devin's anger in a very enjoyable way. In the middle of the song, there's a certain build-up and eventual climax that is very satisfying. Additionally, the occasional use of deep bass drops throughout the album is something I've never really heard before in this type of music, but I felt they were used sparingly enough to emphasize certain moments without becoming tiresome.
The Gathering - Nighttime Birds
Genre: Progressive Metal, Gothic Metal
Released: 1997
Rating: 4/5
Another extremely solid album from these folks. This album sees the band moving more towards progressive song structures, but overall, the sound is still very similar to the preceding album. Every song is enjoyable, but like with Mandylions, it will take quite a few listens to distinguish some of these songs, as this band can sound pretty 'samey'.
looking forward to the new Krallice
http://www.metalinjection.net/reviews/album-review-krallice-years-past-matter
http://www.metalinjection.net/reviews/album-review-krallice-years-past-matter
choodi
Banned
The album artwork for Wintersun's next album, Time I:
There's supposed to be eastern influences in these new albums, which seems to be reflected in the artwork and lettering. Also, two song snippets will be released in a couple days.
Finally, this had better live up to its predecessor
The album artwork for Wintersun's next album, Time I:
There's supposed to be eastern influences in these new albums, which seems to be reflected in the artwork and lettering. Also, two song snippets will be released in a couple days.
I won't believe it until its out.
This is the equivalent of Duke Nukem.HammerOfThor
Member
I won't believe it until its out.
Or Detox
TOM f'N CRUISE
Member
Krisiun - Violentia Gladiatore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKZWY6SsMQs&feature=related
Krisiun - The Extremist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBwCbpwkz8&feature=related
New Katatonia is very disappointing. Not bad by any means but there are so few memorable tracks on it. It's a shame because they have been on a streak of stellar albums for as long as I can remember.
I feel like they got a little carried away with all the strings, synths, layers, and effects on this one. Something seems lost in the confusion.
I feel like they got a little carried away with all the strings, synths, layers, and effects on this one. Something seems lost in the confusion.
Saw someone post some Blasphemy and Sarcofago. Nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nArj8xSvUkE
Hades Archer. I've been addicted to that album since it came out, and their EP Penis Metal as well. A pity their release this year didn't live up to expectations, but it's still okay.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nArj8xSvUkE
Hades Archer. I've been addicted to that album since it came out, and their EP Penis Metal as well. A pity their release this year didn't live up to expectations, but it's still okay.
Wait until a better quality version is out and give it a few more spins.
Shame to hear. I've been on a Katatonia and Anathema kick lately.
MezzoForte
Member
never thought I'd see a Hades Archer rec on a forum like this.
I concur. Honestly it's their worst since Discouraged Ones, and one of their worst releases overall. It's still good music, just not quite as good as a lot of their other albums, unfortunately.
fredrancour
Member
DNF works better as a comparison for GAF even though it's not music because it's mainly a gaming board. I'd imagine many ppl in this thread (me included) had to google what Detox is.
HammerOfThor
Member
What is with this devin townsend guy? Ive looked up his music a few times and it seems completely unremarkable. This sort of stuff was played out by the 90s. When genres like crust punk / dbeat / powerviolence exist any kind of metal that calls itself extreme just seems laughable.
What stuff did you check out? If you're talking Strapping Young Lad (and it sounds like you could be), that stuff is good for what it is, but I could see not being particularly impressed with it. It's his solo work that is crazy amazing.
Ixion
Member
"Extreme Metal" is used when a band is just as extreme as Death, Black, etc, but doesn't fit in those categories. It doesn't mean it's the most extreme form of metal. The two bands that are notorious for this categorization are of course Strapping Young Lad and Meshuggah.
I could just call Strapping Young Lad a Progressive Metal band or an Industrial Metal band, but then you'll expect something like Dream Theater or Nine Inch Nails, yet Strapping Young Lad can get much heavier than those bands.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
I feel that way sometimes when listening to Devin. A lot of his stuff is rooted in the 90s.
i gotta admit after skimming some of this topic i do feel a bit out of place. whatever though!
(bestial) black is 'extreme' enough. i have to agree about devin though. meh.
Ixion
Member
Why, what kind of metal are you into Mr. Pablito?
I like a lot of Townsend's stuff, but I also find a good chunk of it to basically be unlistenable.
I find many genres to be pretty laughable to begin with. They should exist to help classify and describe, not wave your dick about.
Hungry Ghost
Member
Hi metal-gaf hop(?) this is my first post ever here and while I don't listen to much metal I would love to start. So I am asking the metal gaf overlords for some recommendations for some death metal bands.
I really like behemoth, not sure if there 'death' metal though, but anything similar would be greatly appreciated!
I really like behemoth, not sure if there 'death' metal though, but anything similar would be greatly appreciated!
Ixion
Member
If I want to dig into a certain genre, I usually type it into the rateyourmusic.com charts and listen to the top albums. These are the top 25 death metal albums according to them:
As you can see by the genre descriptions, you can sort the charts by something more specific if you're only into certain types of Death Metal, whether it be Technical Death Metal, Melodic Death Metal, Brutal Death Metal, or Progressive Death Metal.
Finally got around to putting together some Maryland Deathfest 2012 playlists on youtube. These are full sets. They are not my videos but I just wanted to share what is already out there. These shows were awesome live and these videos help me re-live that awesome weekend.
YOB - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA56973A9BEFA5153
Nashgul - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0A933E838FB8A10F
Nasum - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF82359F6AEBB84EE
Agalloch - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFAA7F70FD04B1590
Church of Misery - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8F605070EAEA287C
Electric Wizard - (First US show in 11 years) http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9D2A5DC5E98897A2
Noothgrush - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB46F8395CED050D4
YOB - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA56973A9BEFA5153
Nashgul - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0A933E838FB8A10F
Nasum - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF82359F6AEBB84EE
Agalloch - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFAA7F70FD04B1590
Church of Misery - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8F605070EAEA287C
Electric Wizard - (First US show in 11 years) http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9D2A5DC5E98897A2
Noothgrush - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLB46F8395CED050D4
^Wow, waaaaaaay too much Death and Opeth on that list.
Symbolic is also probably the least death-metaly album from Death too. I mean, it's great, don't get me wrong, but yeah... I also think it's kinda weird how Autopsy - Mental Funeral is ranked on here, but Severed Survival (a much better album imo) doesn't show up at all.
Vader's a pretty dead-on recommendation for "bands like Behemoth". At least i'd imagine they are, both bands being Polish and all. Never really listened to Behemoth much, but I do love me some Vader.
Symbolic is also probably the least death-metaly album from Death too. I mean, it's great, don't get me wrong, but yeah... I also think it's kinda weird how Autopsy - Mental Funeral is ranked on here, but Severed Survival (a much better album imo) doesn't show up at all.
Vader's a pretty dead-on recommendation for "bands like Behemoth". At least i'd imagine they are, both bands being Polish and all. Never really listened to Behemoth much, but I do love me some Vader.
This is an older list but I like a lot of what's in it.
Top 50 Extreme Metal albums.
link
Unfortunately all the album art pics seem to be busted. It's a great site if you are into more traditional metal.
Sees Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
obligatory mention of Chapel of Ghouls
Dead - your god is dead
Fools - your god is dead
Useless prayers of lies
Behold Satan's rise
obligatory mention of Chapel of Ghouls
Dead - your god is dead
Fools - your god is dead
Useless prayers of lies
Behold Satan's rise
nothing fancy, really. generally speaking if it's raw and aggressive, then it's right up my alley. tons of acceptions, of course. here's some favorites.
black metal
hades archer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JIjPePGUMA
already posted this one, but here it is again!
blasphemy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLkFvT8g_Jg
sarcofago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4niZjOyoMa8
antichrist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE4Fntrec6A
diocletian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjwrVkq1vC8
beherit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNGyJok0YDI
death metal
demilich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bibAtA8VMAw
timeghoul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9pROgk3J3A
lantern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOfaCZTe-2U
antediluvian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI1y9x_qn-w
metalcoreish (not that kind)
catharsis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5CRu9fG2dg
gaza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8e0dv9kOpY
infernal stronghold
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRrbSzJGc4w
these 2 aren't metal, but i really love them and they scratch a similar itch
coachwhips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w-6ArB0ZBY
satan's satyrs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsKa58a3FXY
i know i'm not completely out of place here. some of these were named (and i only skimmed 15 or so pages. i'm new!), and there's some general favorites that everyone shares that i also like. but yeah, that's me.
i can agree with that to an extent. some genres don't need its own name (viking metal comes to mind), but for recommendations it's pretty useful. i can go "rec me some black metal," be looking for a particular type, but that's the only genre name i know. i could get names like blasphemy, negura bunget, or emperor. they'd all be right, but they sound pretty different.
Ixion
Member
Also, if you want to check out the best Death Metal albums that aren't too famous, then you can choose the 'Esoteric' option, which is great for more experienced Death Metal fans...
For example:
But yeah, rateyourmusic is a great site that seems to help a lot of people find music a lot faster. Just thought I'd share in case you guys didn't know about it yet. No, I do not work for them. lol
For example:
But yeah, rateyourmusic is a great site that seems to help a lot of people find music a lot faster. Just thought I'd share in case you guys didn't know about it yet. No, I do not work for them. lol
morbid angel - altars of madness.
death - human, symbolic. i don't actually like death that much, but that's just me. tons love them.
immolation - close to a world below
suffocation - pierced from within
i'd probably go with symbolic first. if you're going to need to be eased into death metal, that's a good album for it i guess.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Marduk
I don't think he needs to be 'eased' into death metal at all, considering he says he's already a fan of Behemoth.
MezzoForte
Member
our tastes in metal are exactly the same, and that's not stretching the truth one bit.
here are some of my favorite merch items to illustrate this:
that last one was a joke based on the subject of some guy trying to bootleg some RBC merch; never got to use it but there it is.
Also, if you want to check out the best Death Metal albums that aren't too famous, then you can choose the 'Esoteric' option, which is great for more experienced Death Metal fans...
For example:
But yeah, rateyourmusic is a great site that seems to help a lot of people find music a lot faster. Just thought I'd share in case you guys didn't know about it yet. No, I do not work for them. lol
That Electrocution album is awesome. I think I've heard Drawn and Quartered before, but the rest of that I'll need to definitely check out sometime.
RYM's a great site for cataloging your CD collection too.
Ixion
Member
Only obscure Black & Death Metal for you it seems! The only band I have from there is Demilich, as you probably saw. I'll try and check out the others when I get a chance.
- Status