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Ravager61

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Mastodonkey said:
I'm looking for some black metal recommendations. I'm into earthy atmospheric stuff in the vein of the cascade stuff like Wittr, fauna, etc.. I'm not into symphonic stuff or super depressive low quality stuff.. mostly just want something very nature driven, very atmospheric etc..

bands im already into:

wolves in the throne room
fauna
enslaved
immortal
burzum
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I think you'll dig Ash Borer's self titled album.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vN_G9NFwJU
 
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OmegaDragon

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Mastodonkey said:
I'm looking for some black metal recommendations. I'm into earthy atmospheric stuff in the vein of the cascade stuff like Wittr, fauna, etc.. I'm not into symphonic stuff or super depressive low quality stuff.. mostly just want something very nature driven, very atmospheric etc..

bands im already into:

wolves in the throne room
fauna
enslaved
immortal
burzum
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pablito already covered Negura Bunget and Blut Aus Nord (though I'd recommend either this or this to start with BAN).

I also quite enjoy the new Lunar Aurora.

You might already know I and Demonaz, both very fun Immortal related projects. Something about Inquisition also reminds me of Immortal.

Something a bit different. Code has (well had :/) Kvohst as vocalist, he has a really nice voice imo. It fits codes rather unique, spooky BM sound: http://youtu.be/hXKvnRikcSw and http://youtu.be/taciiVhGTuw . Sólstafir isnt black metal but has BM influences. http://youtu.be/3uuSgFrbVsA and http://youtu.be/b-PrdrK5zck
 
Sanctuary

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Not really sure if this is the right thread, but the new Soundgarden is unexpectedly good. There are flashes of Audioslave and Cornell's solo stuff here and there, but they are thankfully brief and rare. King Animal really picks up where Down on the Upside left off with enough "modern" to sound relevant. Cornell doesn't have his Badmotorfinger range back, but he easily sounds his best since around 2000.
 
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maxxpower

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Mastodonkey said:
I'm looking for some black metal recommendations. I'm into earthy atmospheric stuff in the vein of the cascade stuff like Wittr, fauna, etc.. I'm not into symphonic stuff or super depressive low quality stuff.. mostly just want something very nature driven, very atmospheric etc..

bands im already into:

wolves in the throne room
fauna
enslaved
immortal
burzum
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I highly recommend Midnight Odyssey, his albums don't have the best production but they are goddamn atmospheric. Here's my favorite Midnight Odyssey song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFZ5lxrviGA
 
Melchiah

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The Spacepope said:
Hey Wrath, I may be way behind here but is it true that Hellwind Inferion is doing the vocals in the new incarnation of EC? I love his work with Desolate Shrine.
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As do I. I love the upcoming new DS material, and his work with Sacrilegious Impalement. He's a long-time friend of mine, and I think it's better that someone I know and honour continues it, when I no longer wanted to do so.


choodi said:
Whoa dude, no need to get all defensive and definitely no need to pull out the "I'm more hardcore than you" card!

I am a fan of black metal and have been since around 1993. I remember when all of the church burnings and murders were happening in the Norwegian scene and kept myself up-to-date via underground zines and mainstream metal magazines. Do I need to pull out my Impaled Nazarene Sadogoat 7", my Emperor/Enslaved split album or heaps of other demo tapes and other things that I am sure I have lying around to prove my "trueness"?

We are just having a friendly debate about black metal and you actually confirmed what we were all talking about with a couple of statements.
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I may have been a bit too aggressive when I posted that, as I was drunk at the time, but it still doesn't change how I, and many of us old timers, feel about the subject. And I suspect it's a different viewpoint, no matter the years, if you've been looking at it all from the outside, but I can't really comment on that as I view things from a different perspective. By saying so, I don't mean my perspective is necessarily better, but it's perhaps more insightful?


choodi said:
Yes, the very idea that a band that denies christian religion would actually subscribe to the christian ideological concept of Satan is ludicrous.
Black metal as an ideology is more linked to nihilism than it is to Satanism. The Satanic imagery and lyrics are often used as a way of perverting the christian ideals and ethos. BUT, Satan is still a christian concept and if you think of it that way, then by the very essence of being a satanist, you are giving power and authority to christianity. It's a paradox and I think plenty of black metal bands actually cottoned on to that fact a long time ago. Hence the shift towards nihilism and viking mythology as a thematic concept for many black metal bands.

You DO NOT need to be a satanist or sing about satanic themes to be a black metal band. Being anti-religion is a legitimate theme, being nihilistic is a legitimate theme. Black metal is not only about the lyrics, it is a concept that combines dark music, atmospheres, lyrical themes and imagery into one diverse genre of metal that has grown to encompass bands from all over the world...even from places that don't have any affiliation or subscription to christian ideas of god and satan.

I don't know how this discussion turned heated, but I hope that everyone can take a step back and keep this thread civil. I certainly hope that what I have contributed has not been taken as rude or aggressive. If it has then I apologise, I didn't mean to offend, just wanted to give my thoughts about a genre that I think often straddles the line between parody and serious musical and lyrical content.
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What we call Satan essentially derives from several different cultures, of which many predate christianity. Before chistianity came to Finland, there was Tuoni, which is one of the many entities around the world that are synonymous with Satan. Every mythology had their own "Satan", that predated christianity. Which is to say, those entities had nothing to do with christianity, whereas the so called religious black metal bands seem to derive purely from that particular doctrine.

I agree, that there're certain nihilistic tendencies within the idea, and the individuals, but there's also something more than just believing in nothing. Yet, I personally find odd the ideas of "bettering the world" within the genre, not to mention the national socialist aspects.

You're right, that many bands started, and continue to do so, as purely driven by blasphemy, without any deeper ideology behind. But some of those bands, that defined the genre, lived up to its ideals, and I'm not talking about the criminal activities, but living according to their principles; "practise what you preach". Which is why, I personally think you have to be one to become one; you can't just play black metal and be it.

That all being said, perhaps we should just agree to disagree. and drop the subject. ;)
 
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I thought that Xasthur guy was extremely depressed, almost borderline suicidal. The dude from Leviathan seems a bit more chill, but still kinda sad. The other is just LOL, so forced.

I don't really understand something, they are that sad but don't seem like they seek professional help or anything, they just write the music to they depression go even further. They enjoy the darkness they live. I don't get it. We should seek happiness, not this life without a life they live.
 
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Ravager61

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Especially in the case of Striborg and Xasthur, their music seems to be a justification for their anti-social tenancies. Wrest from Leviathan has actually been through some shit though. He's also not nearly as much of a loner. He has a job, is in other bands with his friends (Twilight), and posts on his Facebook page every 5 seconds.

I feel genuinely bad for Xasthur. He probably does need help. I think you can see his cutting scars in some scenes. Striborg just comes off as a goofy nerd playing at being "kvlt." Also, Striborg kind of sucks.
 
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Greg

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I was looking into Xasthur's Nocturnal Poisoning project because of OMM, and I came across his facebook page. Between the comments he made in the interview I posted, the comments he made on his page about how displeased he was with OMM, and the way he interacts with his fans on his page... it seems like he was either misrepresented or he was really playing up his 'character' for the filming.
 
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maxxpower

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Greg said:
I was looking into Xasthur's Nocturnal Poisoning project because of OMM, and I came across his facebook page. Between the comments he made in the interview I posted, the comments he made on his page about how displeased he was with OMM, and the way he interacts with his fans on his page... it seems like he was either misrepresented or he was really playing up his 'character' for the filming.
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What the fuck, I too just went to his Facebook page and honestly he seems like a "regular" guy, though maybe when quit Xasthur he decided to give his depressed "character" a rest.
 
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SpartanForce

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Ravager61 said:
Especially in the case of Striborg and Xasthur, their music seems to be a justification for their anti-social tenancies. Wrest from Leviathan has actually been through some shit though. He's also not nearly as much of a loner. He has a job, is in other bands with his friends (Twilight), and posts on his Facebook page every 5 seconds.

I feel genuinely bad for Xasthur. He probably does need help. I think you can see his cutting scars in some scenes. Striborg just comes off as a goofy nerd playing at being "kvlt." Also, Striborg kind of sucks.
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Yeah even so, I for instance went on some very traumatic situations, and I have depression but even so I'm always trying to get off that and seek good moments, happy ones with friends. I enjoy being alone sometimes but I don't take as a lifestyle. Even when my suicidal thoughts come I think, this will pass, I will get over this.

The dude from Xasthur said people made him what he is, one big fucking lie. There are good people and bad people everywhere you can't simply blame all mankind with some misanthropic bullshit. I said early on some pgs that I saw it a bit of me on the Xasthur guy, but fuck it, he just a weak person.

EDIT: So he was just acting? WTF I don't even
 
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pablito

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art for the new Lantern album. due early 2013

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hype as fuck!
 
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Gaspode_T

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Sanctuary said:
Not really sure if this is the right thread, but the new Soundgarden is unexpectedly good. There are flashes of Audioslave and Cornell's solo stuff here and there, but they are thankfully brief and rare. King Animal really picks up where Down on the Upside left off with enough "modern" to sound relevant. Cornell doesn't have his Badmotorfinger range back, but he easily sounds his best since around 2000.
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Dude, Soundgarden concert back in the day was one of the best concerts I have ever been to, they are heavy as any other band of that time especially live seeing hail twirl like crazy
 
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The Spacepope

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Melchiah said:
As do I. I love the upcoming new DS material, and his work with Sacrilegious Impalement. He's a long-time friend of mine, and I think it's better that someone I know and honour continues it, when I no longer wanted to do so.
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Cheers for answering Wrath. Did not know you two were buddies, that's cool. Yeah, I was really impressed with Tenebrous Towers, Hellwind did a great job. Loving the sound of that preview.
 
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FelixOrion

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Gonna share some of my favorite "unknown"
that may or may not be that unknown
metal artists that I have a fondness for.

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The Analyst - Summoning the Wretched

Great modern death metal/deathcore album. Change the formula enough to keep things interesting and avoid many the pitfalls of deathcore. Vocalist is pretty good for what he does, imo.

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Gru - Cosmogenesis

If you don't have this album yet, GO GET IT. It's free from the artist and some amazing guitar work in an instrumental prog metal style similar to John Petrucci and the like. Seriously. Go get this album. It is an utter gem.

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Kekal - The Habit of Fire

Really forward thinking metal. They started out as black metal and slowly evoluved into an avant-garde metal band incorporating electronics into their fold. Can be very bizzare but very interesting.

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Nuclear Rabbit - Mutopia

Another avant-garde metal band that has bizarre, often humorous lyrics, a vocalist who is very skilled and makes characters for each song, and bassist playing 9, 11, and 12-string basses (often double hand tapping) and wacky song styles. Might be hard to get into, but I've really enjoyed their albums.
 
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Ravager61

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SpartanForce said:
Some info on the Spiritual Healing reissue:

http://loudwire.com/death-leprosy-live-at-streets-march-17-1990-exclusive-song-premiere/
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What, no vinyl? (Yeah, I'm one of those guys)
Amazing album though. LIVING MONSTROSITY! FREAK FOR LIVE HE'LL ALWAYS BE!

Death are just an amazing band. Their early stuff is spectacular old school death metal. I love that early 90's, Morrisound Studios death metal sound. Modern death metal doesn't do a whole lot for me. Too over produced. Their later stuff though is some of the only "progressive" death metal I enjoy. Except their last album, never cared much for that one.
 
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Ravager61 said:
What, no vinyl? (Yeah, I'm one of those guys)
Amazing album though. LIVING MONSTROSITY! FREAK FOR LIVE HE'LL ALWAYS BE!

Death are just an amazing band. Their early stuff is spectacular old school death metal. I love that early 90's, Morrisound Studios death metal sound. Modern death metal doesn't do a whole lot for me. Too over produced. Their later stuff though is some of the only "progressive" death metal I enjoy. Except their last album, never cared much for that one.
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SOME SAY SHE'S NAIVE. SHE'S A STUPID BITCH!

I love Death up until Human. Pretty curious to hear what a Spiritual Healing remaster sounds like since the Human remaster was fucking awesome.
 
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OmegaDragon

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FelixOrion said:
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Kekal - The Habit of Fire

Really forward thinking metal. They started out as black metal and slowly evoluved into an avant-garde metal band incorporating electronics into their fold. Can be very bizzare but very interesting.
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I like Kekal, but I stick to 1000 Thoughts of Violence and Acidity, 1000 Thoughts being my favourite. It has just the right combination of avant-garde and black metal, Acidity is more avant-garde/prog. I've listened to Habit of Fire a couple of times, it couldn't hold my attention, but that's a long time ago.

BTW, those three albums (upper three on their site) can be freely downloaded from their bandcamp. I really recommend 100 Thoughts of Violence for people interested in (black metal influenced) avantgarde metal.
 
Melchiah

Melchiah

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Jon Nödtveidt (AKA Rietas) of Dissection/The Black & It of Abruptum/Ophthalamia/Vondur

The text on the poster is particularly fitting.
 
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MetalGuardian

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DanaInPurple said:
I am currently very into the new stuff from Trick or Treat, very good shtuff!!

False Paradise - Trick or Treat
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I... have no idea how to even form an opinion on this song. Somebody else give some input, please

SpartanForce said:
This song is just so... powerful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2WDhx0VHa0
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Hell yes. As my friend once said, "if you sing about the woes of addiction and DON'T inevitably die of an overdose you are nothing but a poser"
 
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TOP SHOTTA

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I can't believe how good the new Testament is.

It is called Dark Roots Of Earth

I mean holy hell. It's wonderful. It got good reviews but I am personally saying it is bananas how good these guys are. Gene Holgan on the bongs sounding like some studio-faked shit and you KNOW it isn't because he does it live every time Dethklok plays.
 
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LUCKY DEVIL said:
I can't believe how good the new Testament is.

It is called Dark Roots Of Earth

I mean holy hell. It's wonderful. It got good reviews but I am personally saying it is bananas how good these guys are. Gene Holgan on the bongs sounding like some studio-faked shit and you KNOW it isn't because he does it live every time Dethklok plays.
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Yes.

YES.

YEEESSS!!!

It's amazing a band that has been around as long as they have still releases such amazing material. Plus the album sold well so you know this lineup is most likely going to release another album soon. Which is good because Skolnick is amazing on solos.
 
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Phobophile

A scientist and gentleman in the manner of Batman.
I've been really fucking hooked on Corsair's S/T after hearing SKR picked them up. Went to the band's own Bandcamp instead since they were still offering their CD cheaper.

http://corsair.bandcamp.com

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Heavy/trad metal with 70s prog/hard rock influence. Huge Thin Lizzy vibe from the harmonies and rock chord progressions.
 
Sanctuary

Sanctuary

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Do you like Opeth (Deliverance), Tool, Amorphis or Katatonia?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p68kjlEUmfY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En9W7wyAG4o

I can't believe how good the new Testament is.

It is called Dark Roots Of Earth

I mean holy hell. It's wonderful. It got good reviews but I am personally saying it is bananas how good these guys are. Gene Holgan on the bongs sounding like some studio-faked shit and you KNOW it isn't because he does it live every time Dethklok plays.
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Yeah, it's really good. I think Throne of Thorns is the standout though by far.
 
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rObit

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Phobophile said:
I've been really fucking hooked on Corsair's S/T after hearing SKR picked them up. Went to the band's own Bandcamp instead since they were still offering their CD cheaper.

http://corsair.bandcamp.com


Heavy/trad metal with 70s prog/hard rock influence. Huge Thin Lizzy vibe from the harmonies and rock chord progressions.
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FelixOrion said:
Gru - Cosmogenesis

If you don't have this album yet, GO GET IT. It's free from the artist and some amazing guitar work in an instrumental prog metal style similar to John Petrucci and the like. Seriously. Go get this album. It is an utter gem.
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Damn, you two just made my day way better. I love checking in on this thread every so often to find great stuff like this.

I don't generally have much to contribute myself, but I just found out about Intronaut, and they seem pretty great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgnZe8LjOyM&feature=g-u-u

P.S. Unbelievably stoked for Epica and Insomnium this Sunday, the ticket has been pinned to my wall for months.
 
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FelixOrion

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Zero Hero said:
I'm really liking this. THanks!
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Delightful Oonsk said:
Damn, you two just made my day way better. I love checking in on this thread every so often to find great stuff like this.

I don't generally have much to contribute myself, but I just found out about Intronaut, and they seem pretty great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgnZe8LjOyM&feature=g-u-u

P.S. Unbelievably stoked for Epica and Insomnium this Sunday, the ticket has been pinned to my wall for months.
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Glad I could help! I only wish Gru wasn't so reclusive. All I've heard from him are a cover (a Katy Perry cover, but damn it's good), a few mixtests on soundcloud, and few guest solos on his friend Widek's EPs, and that's it. No posts or updates really of any kind since that album came out a few years ago. He needs to get back on it.

Speaking of which, you guys should also check out Widek too:

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Widek - Aurora Borealis

OmegaDragon said:
I like Kekal, but I stick to 1000 Thoughts of Violence and Acidity, 1000 Thoughts being my favourite. It has just the right combination of avant-garde and black metal, Acidity is more avant-garde/prog. I've listened to Habit of Fire a couple of times, it couldn't hold my attention, but that's a long time ago.

BTW, those three albums (upper three on their site) can be freely downloaded from their bandcamp. I really recommend 100 Thoughts of Violence for people interested in (black metal influenced) avantgarde metal.
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yeah I know what you mean, more so for their newest stuff. "Audible Minority", "8" and "Autonomy" are hard drudging. But when you're a band that somehow exists with NO active members, I guess it can be hard to make really engrossing music.
 
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TOP SHOTTA

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Sanctuary said:
Yeah, it's really good. I think Throne of Thorns is the standout though by far.
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I like that song too. But the standouts for me on the new Testament are:

"Cold Embrace" - because that key/tempo change at 1:30 gives me chills - chuugggg "Come take my hand!" chugg chuug cchuug chuug chuuuuuuewwnnggg "Follow the path to infinity!!" chugg chugg chug chuuugggg.

But Dragon Attack, for me, is the standout of standouts. That song goes hard, I just love the drums. It reminds me of old Testament the most, and it's just a fucking fun song to listen to. It's really melodic too. It reminds me of what Aerosmith could sound like if they could get a boner.

Dragon Attack
 
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Melchiah said:
Here's another song from the just released album of Baptism.

The Prayer
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Wow fuck yeah. This place... This thread and the GAF-HOP threads are my new best friends. I'd never know about this sort of shit if I didn't come here. This song is awesome. I am into drums so listening to that it is hard for me to imagine someone moving their arms and legs that fast and for that long. This song is great. Thanks!
 
Melchiah

Melchiah

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SpartanForce said:
Is you singing?
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No, it's a band of a friend of mine, but I did some vocals on another song; Casus In Tenebris

There was a handful of Finnish BM people featured on the album.


LUCKY DEVIL said:
Wow fuck yeah. This place... This thread and the GAF-HOP threads are my new best friends. I'd never know about this sort of shit if I didn't come here. This song is awesome. I am into drums so listening to that it is hard for me to imagine someone moving their arms and legs that fast and for that long. This song is great. Thanks!
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Nice to hear that. I particularly like how the clean vocals of Infection (Horna/Sotajumala) turned out. The drummer plays in Deathchain as well, BTW.
 
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