No metalcore or deathcore categories, I see.
Fucking heavy ass metal and some people don't even think to consider it. lol
Its so good, too. Listening to some Darkest Hour at the moment.
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Fucking heavy ass metal and some people don't even think to consider it. lol
Its so good, too. Listening to some Darkest Hour at the moment.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I personally don't listen to either Deathcore (I know of NO bands in the genre that I've digested) nor Metalcore (aside from a few), so that's why it's not on the list. That's all there is to it.
I love Converge, DEP, and Botch. I consider those three bands more influenced by Punk MUCH more than Metal. Other than that, I'm simply just not familiar with the genre. That doesn't make it bad, mind you. Not at all.
Don't get pissed off. Don't take it as an excuse to shit on the genre. Not my intention.
well...um... good for you, devo..
Well modern metalcore is firmly rooted in Melodic Death Metal and hardcore.
Regardless, one listen to it and you can tell its miles and miles apart from punk and is one of the 'heavier' styles out there. To try and separate it from metal is lunacy.
I just thought it was funny when you said:
All Metal requires my full attention in that some post before creating the list.
But its cool. I know most don't like it here for some strange reason. I'll be jamming out. Don't mind me.
Andrew Korenchkin
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OK, fair enough. Maybe I should have put ALMOST. I don't listen to the genre, that's pretty much it. You are right, I shouldn't have overlooked that.
But yeah, aside from those bands, I've never sat down and listened to the genre.
Fuckin a' do I love Mercyful Fate
AstroZombie
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The Spectre Within is one of the greatest Power Metal albums ever recorded.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Whatever it is, I like it!
I'm curious about this one. Do you, as metal fans, have any Metal Shames? I suppose that I could count that I used to like Limp Bizkit when I wasn't even 10 years old, but I slept through most of the whinge rawk that was popular when I was in elementary school. Granted, most of us listen to a lot of music where we were younger that we are embarrassed about, so don't be shy about expressing it!
I've never been ashamed of any music that I like period. Why should I be? I like what I like.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Well, I think the term "shame" used in this context is more tongue in cheek (?) than anything else, really. I don't legitimately feel shamed that I used to like Aaron Carter. I was 7 years old and I didn't know any better.
I just think it's funny when we look back at the music we used to like when we were younger, and just think to ourselves "what the hell was I thinking?" Just makes for a lot of funny conversations.
Palagial is so fucking good.
Morrigan Stark
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With very good reason!
AstroZombie
Banned
Damn straight!
Andrew Korenchkin
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Is all Deathcore as shitty as Waking the Cadaver (If they count, that is. A friend of mine says they aren't due to their lack of Hardcore, but other sources such as Metal Storm, Metal Archives, and Wikipedia do)?
AstroZombie
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I've never listened to that band, but all Deathcore bands I've listened to are complete and utter garbage.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Deathcore or not, Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler is still the shittiest Metal albums I've ever listened to. I'd rather listen to some shitty Nu-Metal album, honestly.
That said, I've never listened to Emmure, but I heard they're almost Brokencyde levels of awful.
FelixOrion
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Z..
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Holy shit, how did I miss something as huge as Ne Obliviscaris last year?
Have you guys heard these Aussies? Blackish Prog Metal of the finest fucking order! Rated #1 album of 2012 by the folks over at Metal Storm... How the fuck did I miss this? oO
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Finally gave Wintersun a listen... Massive fan, obviously. That COB meets Black Metal combo is amazing. Jari never disappoints!
Have you guys heard these Aussies? Blackish Prog Metal of the finest fucking order! Rated #1 album of 2012 by the folks over at Metal Storm... How the fuck did I miss this? oO
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Finally gave Wintersun a listen... Massive fan, obviously. That COB meets Black Metal combo is amazing. Jari never disappoints!
ZachDeKoromaru
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I discovered them earlier this year too, they're pretty damn awesome. If you enjoyed them you'd probably enjoy the latest Persefone album which is somewhat in the same vein.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Z..
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Holy shit... this is so random... I've seen those guys live a couple years ago when I was on holiday in Andorra! Oo Completely forgot about them, in the meantime, but I'm glad to hear they're moving in this direction, I shall definitely check it out! Thanks, kind sir!
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Holy shit, kids have improved tremendously. Oo
Well, as someone who's still somewhat of a metalcore fan (but used to be a huge one), my main problem with the genre is that it's so stale. Every album either sounds like Killswitch Engage's Alive Or Just Breathing or Hatebreed's Perseverance, and there's very little variation from those 2 paradigms. There are standouts like Converge, BtBaM or tDEP... but most bands just live on that Unearth/As I Lay Dying "we all sound exactly the same" territory and end up becoming enjoyable but ultimately unimaginative and forgettable. I have fond memories of listening to early Darkest Hour and God Forbid. I enjoy them for what they are, I guess, but in the end nothing too great will ever come out of these bands. I still like them, but I just don't value them that much or rate them that highly.
I never had that either. I pretty much still like to listen to what I listened to when I was 5. My tastes have expanded by virtue of gaining more knowledge through the years.
I feel ashamed when I listen to my shitty nu metal
I don't remember how I stumbled upon them, but yeah, that album is rather fucking sweet.
I don't remember how I stumbled upon them, but yeah, that album is rather fucking sweet.
Yeah it really is. Like any good record the more you listen to it the more it grows on you.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Who the hell is Avenged Sevenfold, aside from the fact that I know they exist?
Seriously, I've never even heard their music.
Seriously, I've never even heard their music.
forknknife
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I just came back from seeing Dillinger Escape Plan and... seriously, that fucking singer and his melodic bullshit choruses have single handedly ruined DEP for me 
I know they have had this singer for a while and I just ignored their new records but I was just hoping to like them live, but nope. Does not help they only played 2 songs from calculating infinity and none from the mullet burden.
Well, really sad night.
I know they have had this singer for a while and I just ignored their new records but I was just hoping to like them live, but nope. Does not help they only played 2 songs from calculating infinity and none from the mullet burden.
Well, really sad night.
Morrigan Stark
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Ignorance is bliss. Trust me.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I'll take your word for it. I think I vaguely remember Beast vs Harlot (?), or some other name, back in High School. I don't remember anything about the music.
Electric_ Cthulhu
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For somebody who is more open minded about metal Avenged Sevenfold can be pretty enjoyable. City of Evil is their best and most diverse album. The influences of the band (Maiden, Metallica, Pantera, Guns & Roses among others) are very obvious but they suit the music well.
Andrew Korenchkin
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I gave them a shot. Sorry, didn't like what I heard.
I'm not close minded about Metal, I gave them a chance. I didn't like their music.
Morrigan Stark
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No no don't you see? If you don't like a shitty band the Open-Minded Crowd (tm) likes, you're close-minded, automatically. Sorry, that's just how it goes. You're probably an elitist, too. And kvlt!
Andrew Korenchkin
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Brilliantly said. I've unfortunately have felt pressure before by certain individuals regarding music I genuinely just don't like.
Electric_ Cthulhu
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Well, I said they can be enjoyable. I never said that you are closed minded if you don't like them. So please read more precisely before you start twisting my words.
He listened to them and didn't like them. The case is closed. But at least he gave them a chance. This is what matters. Don't be afraid to widen your horizon. You may like what you hear. It doesn't have to be Avenged Sevenfold.
Lambda Pie
Banned
i would be bored out of my mind if i listened to metal only.
Eurobeat, Italo Disco, Classical, Russian Orthodox Choirs, Gospel (mostly Johnny Cook) are on my daily rotation.
Morrigan Stark
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Sorry, I just hear that kind of "open-minded" bullshit way too often, and the implications are usually very clear.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Did we ever have this question? Oh well.
What is Metal-GAF'S favorite Metallica songs? I'm going with:
Whiplash
No Remorse
Fight Fire With Fire
For Whom The Bells Toll
Fade To Black
Creeping Death
Master of Puppets
Welcome Home
Disposable Heroes
And Justice For All...
Eye of The Beholder
The Frayed Edge of Sanity
What is Metal-GAF'S favorite Metallica songs? I'm going with:
Whiplash
No Remorse
Fight Fire With Fire
For Whom The Bells Toll
Fade To Black
Creeping Death
Master of Puppets
Welcome Home
Disposable Heroes
And Justice For All...
Eye of The Beholder
The Frayed Edge of Sanity
Ixion
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Just name every one of their songs, why don't ya!
Disposable Heroes and For Whom The Bell Tolls for me.
Andrew Korenchkin
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Well to be fair, I could probably put the entirety of Ride the Lightning on it and be done with it. Other than that, picking favorites off anything else they did in the 80's would make for a much shorter list.
Morrigan Stark
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Hit the Lights, Creeping Death, Four Horsemen, Blackened.
MetalGuardian
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Z..
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Personally... Orion, Fade To Black and For Whom The Bell Tolls are the bigger standouts.
If FWtBT was a bit longer and packed a solo it would be the ultimate Metallica song, imo.
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Guys, I'm trying to get a friend into Death Metal. He's gotten to the point where he's started enjoying some Tech-Death stuff and wants to start listening to more traditional Death Metal, so I recommended he started with Death's Human (he's already a fan of their last 2 masterpieces) as a transition point, and now I'm wondering which straight-up Death Metal albums I should tell him to listen to first...
Basically, what do you guys think are the best albums to introduce someone to the genre (just straight up Death Metal, please... no melodic death or brutal death)?
Personally, I'm leaning towards Necroticism and Altars Of Madness... they seem to perfectly encapsulate everything I love about the genre in just the perfect way, each in it's own way.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Dyers Eve and Creeping Death are my two favorite Metallica songs.
Morrigan Stark
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Andrew Korenchkin
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Altars of Madness IMO is one of the best albums ever, so I would recommend that one over Necroticism (not like that album is a bad one; carcass rule). Hard to say, since Death Metal by and large is far more diverse in overall sound than initially meets the ear for a newcomer, varying from region to region and even band to band at times (tell me if Obituary and Nocturnus sound alike).
Altars I think all around is one of the best Death Metal albums ever, so give them the good stuff right there and there.
Hell Yes! Bolt Thrower FTW!
Altars I think all around is one of the best Death Metal albums ever, so give them the good stuff right there and there.
Hell Yes! Bolt Thrower FTW!
Z..
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Zos Kia Cultus (or Demigod) is an awesome idea! I got so wrapped up in it being just death metal I completely forgot the modern scene.
War Master by BT? I've never listened to that one (started with IVth Crusade and ended up never visiting anything before that, just kept going)... Anyway, yeah, BT have a very basic yet compelling approach to their writing that makes them very easy to get into, so that's a great idea. Would you say War Master is better than Those Once Loyal (personally, their finest hour)?
I have a bit of a love affair with Necroticism, which is why I rate a tad bit higher than it probably deserves. As far as Carcass go, I quite like Heartwork and can occasionally enjoy SoS, but Necroticism just clicks with me in a way nothing else in the genre ever has (not even in Carcass' other releases, unsurprisingly), to the point of me considering them my favourite Death Metal band (even though I still consider both Morbid Angel and Death to be better) solely based on the strength of that one album. It has such a unique sound...
Morrigan Stark
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Honestly, I picked War Master 'cause it's the first BT album I heard, but you can't go wrong with any of theirs. Those Once Loyal is absolutely phenomenal as well.
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