Phobophile
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Leviathan - Tenth Sub Level of Suicide; Tentacles of Whorror
Parallax Scroll
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Maybe someone here can help me diversify. I looooove Dragonforce. Love love love love it. If anyone wants to give me shit for that, knock yourselves out.
I was hooked the first time I heard them randomly come up in a Pandora stream (the song was Fields of Despair off Sonic Firestorm). I cranked the headphones up and was in complete bliss for the next few minutes. I hadn't heard of power metal before that, so I figured I must have just found the holy grail of music genres. I've listened to some other power metal bands since then, and while some of them are very good, nothing I've listened to can really stand up to Dragonforce. I'd love it if a metal-gaffer could help me find bands or songs with a similar sound.
I usually prefer to listen to full albums in order, and I like concept albums, but I'll often skip the slow song when I'm listening to a Dragonforce album.
The best alternatives I've found so far:
Symphony X - The one sort of powerish metal band I was listening to before I discovered Dragonforce. Good stuff, but for me, Dragonforce was an upgrade.
Kamelot - Karma, Epica, and The Black Halo. Pretty good.
Luca Turilli - So far I've only been able to get into Prophet of the Last Eclipse, but I dig it.
Dragonland - good.
So, any suggestions?
I was hooked the first time I heard them randomly come up in a Pandora stream (the song was Fields of Despair off Sonic Firestorm). I cranked the headphones up and was in complete bliss for the next few minutes. I hadn't heard of power metal before that, so I figured I must have just found the holy grail of music genres. I've listened to some other power metal bands since then, and while some of them are very good, nothing I've listened to can really stand up to Dragonforce. I'd love it if a metal-gaffer could help me find bands or songs with a similar sound.
I usually prefer to listen to full albums in order, and I like concept albums, but I'll often skip the slow song when I'm listening to a Dragonforce album.
The best alternatives I've found so far:
Symphony X - The one sort of powerish metal band I was listening to before I discovered Dragonforce. Good stuff, but for me, Dragonforce was an upgrade.
Kamelot - Karma, Epica, and The Black Halo. Pretty good.
Luca Turilli - So far I've only been able to get into Prophet of the Last Eclipse, but I dig it.
Dragonland - good.
So, any suggestions?
Parallax Scroll said:
If you want to listen to a dragonforce esque band than you can make your own!. Just make a 12 minute guitar part, speed it up to make it 4 minutes, have a double drum beat in the background that makes the same beat for every single song, then start singing about dragons and fire
Parallax Scroll
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Can you name another band that does this?Jarate said:
Back when I was into power metal, my two favourite bands was Rhapsody (Luca Turillis main project):Parallax Scroll said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye6YHQ8AZzU
They are cheesy as FUCK, the lyrics are horrible, but I still love them, it's just too damn fun to listen to. Seeing them live was one of the best experiences ever, all their chorus just works so good in an live evironment. Don't watch the music videos though. You can't wrong with any album between Symphony of Enchanted Lands and Power of the Dragonflame.
... and the other band I was into was Blind Guardian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYdd4fMtW_A
Another great live band, not because of their stage prescence which is abysmal, but because the music let the audience join them all the time. Great band. One good starter album is Nightfall in Middle Earth, but all their main releases are good.
Parallax Scroll
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Thanks for the suggestions so far. Orthrelm is way too experimental for my taste. I'm listening to Vamphyri by Adagio and so far I like it.
I guess the things I particularly like about Dragonforce are that the music is:
- highly structured
- fast as fuck
- melodic
- no offensive lyrics (I generally don't want to listen to songs about corpses and rotting flesh and whatnot)
I guess the things I particularly like about Dragonforce are that the music is:
- highly structured
- fast as fuck
- melodic
- no offensive lyrics (I generally don't want to listen to songs about corpses and rotting flesh and whatnot)
Parallax Scroll
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K, Adagio is 4 for 4 on the songs that came up on their myspace. Checking out the other suggestions now.
Parallax Scroll
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El_Victor said:
That song is fucking dope. What album is it from?
Edit: The best part of that song is the chorus. I don't know the term for it, but I love the drumbeat used in the chorus.
Phobophile
A scientist and gentleman in the manner of Batman.
Parallax:
Check out Dragon Guardian - Dragonvarius
The album title is no doubt a blatant portmanteau of Dragonforce and Stratovarius and the music reflects it. It's the cheesiest, most saccharine power metal I've heard in a LONG time. And it's J-metal, so it's weeaboo as fuck (there are anime-style voiceovers in some of the songs).
Check out Dragon Guardian - Dragonvarius
The album title is no doubt a blatant portmanteau of Dragonforce and Stratovarius and the music reflects it. It's the cheesiest, most saccharine power metal I've heard in a LONG time. And it's J-metal, so it's weeaboo as fuck (there are anime-style voiceovers in some of the songs).
Parallax Scroll
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Yeah, I think this is a little too weaboo for me. I would have eaten this up in like 2001 when I still watched anime. Good suggestion though, this is pretty close to what I'm looking for.Phobophile said:
Parallax Scroll
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Thanks. I've heard a bit of Sonata Arctica and HammerFall, I should listen to them some more. The other two are new to me, I'll check them out.Ceres said:
That's from Symphony of the Enchanted Lands, other songs from that album that you should check out are Wisdom of the Kings, Eternal Glory and Riding the winds of Eternity. It's not my favourite album with Rhapsody though, that would be Dawn of Victory or Power of the Dragonflame. The latter has these two gems:Parallax Scroll said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHUHcuXQoxA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k786DZQ3RxE
Anyhow, if you look for power metal just keep digging into Rhapsody and you will find treasure.
Oh and lest I forget, this one (from an EP):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZN1xw-HlI8
It's so ridicously over-the-top epic, 10 minutes of pure, undiluted cheese-metal. You can tell Luca just loved writing this song.
Woffls
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Parallax Scroll said:
Firewind and Hammerfall are okay, Rhapsody are supposed to be very good, but I know for sure that Sonata Arctica's Ecliptica is epically awesome and definitely deserves a listen.
That's the power metal closely related to DF that I care to mention. Thematically similar is probably stuff like Dark Moor or Tears of Anger, that's quite different. You say you liked Symphony X, I can tell you now that they make far better music than DragonForce, but they're hardly comparable because SymX's music isn't so easily catagorised, and because of this you might not want to listen to them just yet.
Parallax Scroll
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Symphony being "better" is a matter of taste. Dragonforce may be a one trick pony, but that trick happens to be something I really enjoy listening to.Woffls said:
OmegaDragon
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corpserot said:
Forgotten Tomb - Songs to Leave
Lifelover - Konkurs
Shining's IV - The Eerie Cold and V - Halmstad are my favourites of the genre
Was looking up metal shows in my area and found this: http://www.bandsintown.com/event/3168822-cynic-philadelphia-pa-live-at-trocadero-on-january-31-2010?artist=Cynic
Can anyone recommend me some bands similar to Swallow the Sun?
I love "The Morning Never Came" especially, but really like everything they have done for the most part. I like the slow/heavy/melodic/doomish(? never really listened to THAT much doom) music with growls/screaming, but haven't had much luck finding anything that style that grabs me as much as their music. I would really appreciate any suggestions.
I love "The Morning Never Came" especially, but really like everything they have done for the most part. I like the slow/heavy/melodic/doomish(? never really listened to THAT much doom) music with growls/screaming, but haven't had much luck finding anything that style that grabs me as much as their music. I would really appreciate any suggestions.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I saw Municipal Waste earlier tonight. Definitely the craziest show I've ever been to.
Witchfinder General
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Poigea said:
Try the following:
My Dying Bride - Turn Loose the Swans
November's Doom - To Welcome the Fade
Morgion - Solinari
Darkflight - Rusted Angel
Daylight Dies - Dismantling Devotion
Shrike_Priest
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Not that they're anything like metal anymore, but Ulver just released their first new track since 2007.
http://www.myspace.com/ulver1
It's a cover of The Electric Prunes' "I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night". Great stuff!
http://www.myspace.com/ulver1
It's a cover of The Electric Prunes' "I Had Too Much To Dream Last Night". Great stuff!
The Bard's Song + right audience = fantastic stuff.El_Victor said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCz-WOXzJ58
And Parallax, you should check Gamma Ray (older stuff like Land of The Free, Somwhere out in Space and Powerplant)
Phobophile
A scientist and gentleman in the manner of Batman.
So 2009 has heralded the resurgence of thrash metal closer to its 1980s roots. Mantic Ritual released Executioner, one of my favorite albums this year, Artillery put out When Death Comes, a great comeback album with some modern thrash elements, but still keeping it true.
And now from Tempe, AZ comes Vektor with Black Future, an album that fucking blindsided me just this past week and I've been fucking hooked since. Coming from an area that's riddled with the shittiest and most trite of modern metal- and deathcore, these guys are quite the opposite. Proggy/techy thrash with an aesthetic a bit reminiscent of Voivod 20 years ago but with more thrash and less boring. Incredibly melodic and Baroque in structure, this album might sound like if Bach made a thrash metal album. The vocals are fucking insane; not so much shouting but more black metal-ish snarls, with high-pitched screams just adding to the psychotic, spaced-out themes in this album.
Goddamn this album is good. It's over an hour long but it sure as hell doesn't feel it.
Giant Robot
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Phobophile said:
So 2009 has heralded the resurgence of thrash metal closer to its 1980s roots. Proggy/techy thrash with an aesthetic a bit reminiscent of Voivod 20 years ago but with more thrash and less boring. Incredibly melodic and Baroque in structure, this album might sound like if Bach made a thrash metal album. The vocals are fucking insane; not so much shouting but more black metal-ish snarls, with high-pitched screams just adding to the psychotic, spaced-out themes in this album.
Goddamn this album is good. It's over an hour long but it sure as hell doesn't feel it.
great album. Definately one of the best during this stupid 2nd wave of "retro-thrash". Really great since i think it's the closest thing we are going to get to Voivod, something that no ones dared touch.
I still cant get over the Voivod logo worshhip though:lol
Maybe check out Galneryus?Parallax Scroll said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxr3W564gUg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQy4UbRxIBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-jPBVPuxqQ
Giant Robot
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and since I've been on a Martin Van Drunen kick, one of his newer bands, Death By Dawn, is fucking killer. Catchy and hooky Dutch death metal. Check out their debut album "One Hand One Foot And A Lot Of Teeth". Really tongue-in-cheek, but well crafted old school death metal flavor. Especially if you are a fan of Drunen's other bands:
Pestilence
Asphyx
Pestilence
Asphyx
Gettysburger
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Parallax Scroll said:
axenstar, freedom call, avantasia, ensiferum, nigthwish/epica/after forever (if you like female vocals), wintersun
H.Cornerstone
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For all you fans of Pantera out there, here is a Band that emulates their sound very well.
http://www.myspace.com/southerncrossband
http://www.myspace.com/southerncrossband
Giant Robot
Member
Wrath2X said:
nothing will ever touch 80's thrash.
the Vektor recommendation above was a good one. Everything else sounds like a second rate thrash band. Municipal Waste's first 2 albums were alright (Waste 'Em All, Hazardous Mutation), everything after that sounds too much like D.R.I./Nuclear Assault.
Giant Robot
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H.Cornerstone said:
and for all the Pantera fans, here is a band that Phil Anselmo ripped off of:
http://www.myspace.com/exhordernola
DieNgamers
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I don't think so. Old discussion but the only album where Kyle sounds a bit like Phil would be The Law, imo. 1992 both bands were doing their very own thing for quite a while already, though. Bit of a shame that Exhorder didn't go on after that, I really like their stuff. It's maybe not as memorable as Pantera's output but really heavy as well.
I don't really like most Pantera (or band- in general)clones. Why would you emulate the sound of one band?
I don't really like most Pantera (or band- in general)clones. Why would you emulate the sound of one band?
Never posted my impressions from The Faceless/Dying Fetus. It was a really small venue, probably about 300-500 people there. Only about 50 in the pit, if that. I was right up against the stage. Everyone went crazy for Dying Fetus. Enfold Darkness, Suffokate, and Beneath the Massacre played as well, and all of them were awesome. Really great show. I'd definitely go again.
DieNgamers
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http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=131967
So there will be a "big four" tour after all! In Europe. Sounds good!
So there will be a "big four" tour after all! In Europe.
Sounds good!yacobod said:
They are all from the same area aren't they?
I don't really care for them either, would rather have Exodus or Testament fit in for them, but seeing Megadeth and Metallica share a stage would be pretty amazing. Chances of this actually happening though? I'd say it were slim.
Giant Robot
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FFChris said:
Anthrax is from NY, the others from CA.
They were just one of the bigger thrash bands of the time. Exodus would have been more fitting IMO.
Phobophile
A scientist and gentleman in the manner of Batman.
Wrath2X said:
If you fuckers don't like Mantic Ritual - Executioner, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with out.
Giant Robot
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DieNgamers said:http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=131967
So there will be a "big four" tour after all! In Europe.
that fucking already happened called "Thrash Of The Titans" (benefit for Chuck Billy) back in early 2000-something in San Francisco.
Vio-Lence, Forbidden, Exodus, and Death Angel were enough reasons to celebrate the Bay Area thrash scene revival. And even Tom Araya, Dave Lombardo, and Lars Ulrich were there backstage.
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