icecold1983
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Thats standard SSR behavior, nothing extraordinary about that.
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Dat poor animation
you think those look good??? :/
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The most technically-advanced game for each year
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you think those look good??? :/
Dictator93
Member
Question, do they look poor to you? I can undertand not think they are the best thing ever. But do they look poor?
I think he meant God of War, but your point still stands.
I always thought Crysis 2 had perfectly fine animation
I might have to run through Crysis 2 again with Maldo's textures, so fucking impressive (plus I got it for free on here from a Gaffer).
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I see.With GI it is slightly other way around
capitalCORN
Member
Sure, just make sure to imagine them at 60+ fps
.And to the whole RTCW vs. Halo war, I see how the consolites have ignored my stake at resolution difference :!
They dont look good?
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Pretty solid list OP. The PC really is where graphics technologies are being created, so the list is easily justified.
I will say that Driveclub probably deserves a contending recommendation given it's implementation of G.I and it's weather system that I still don't even see PC games aspiring to just yet.
And it's not to necessarily discredit games like GOW3, given than Sony Santa Monica made the breakthroughs necessary to get MLAA running ridiculously well on the Cell architecture, and instantly pushed GOW3 to mind blowing status for many. That CG look, triple buffered smoothness, and well implemented per object motion blur blew me away.
But anyone trying to just arbitrarily lump console games into the equation will have an uphill batt accomplishments made on a console are there to capitalize on so little, where as on PC it's to explore what's possible. So they're already approaching the technology from different mind sets. I don't think anyone's arguing that console developers aren't talented. They just don't necessarily belong in this thread.
I will say that Driveclub probably deserves a contending recommendation given it's implementation of G.I and it's weather system that I still don't even see PC games aspiring to just yet.
And it's not to necessarily discredit games like GOW3, given than Sony Santa Monica made the breakthroughs necessary to get MLAA running ridiculously well on the Cell architecture, and instantly pushed GOW3 to mind blowing status for many. That CG look, triple buffered smoothness, and well implemented per object motion blur blew me away.
But anyone trying to just arbitrarily lump console games into the equation will have an uphill batt accomplishments made on a console are there to capitalize on so little, where as on PC it's to explore what's possible. So they're already approaching the technology from different mind sets. I don't think anyone's arguing that console developers aren't talented. They just don't necessarily belong in this thread.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Great list.
Only thing I really disagree with is Arma 2. Should have been KZ or UC2.
I also think GOW3 looks better than anything else released that year but I don't know how it stacks up on just a technical front.
Only thing I really disagree with is Arma 2. Should have been KZ or UC2.
I also think GOW3 looks better than anything else released that year but I don't know how it stacks up on just a technical front.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I think MGS2 deserves a shoutout for 2001.
It had real time light shadows, water effects on the camera lens, steam that bursted out of pipes when shot, FUNCTIONING MIRRORS, guards that reacted with different animations dependong on where they were shot, pretty good AI, and slippery bird poop.
Does anyone else agree? Great thread btw op the 1970s stuff is fascinating.
edit: oh and mgs2 ran at a rock hard 60fps with few exceptions
It had real time light shadows, water effects on the camera lens, steam that bursted out of pipes when shot, FUNCTIONING MIRRORS, guards that reacted with different animations dependong on where they were shot, pretty good AI, and slippery bird poop.
Does anyone else agree? Great thread btw op the 1970s stuff is fascinating.
edit: oh and mgs2 ran at a rock hard 60fps with few exceptions
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
This was a good read, OP. Nice thread.
Lol. Come on son.
GeordieMark
Member
That is a quite incredible accusation considering you do exactly the same with Driveclub.
Something about glass houses and throwing stones...
Totally agreed here, though I'm not familiar with Outcast, the graphics look like an N64 title (those blurry textures) and the animation is laughable. Shenmue was in a league of its own that year, IMO.
Veritigo_X
Member
Glad others are pointing out the omission of Elite (1984) and Frontier: Elite II (1993). Those were crazy games back then and the tech that made that possible is still crazy today. It was funny seeing people think planet travel shown in No Man's Sky trailers was a bunch of hot air when we had this in 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt29cTOWgzI
The list isn't bad but there are some titles that deserve a place AT LEAST in the contender section, like the mentioned Driveclub for 2014 or God of War 3 and Killzone 2 that were crazy in their year of release, even more if we take into account the hardware. Damn, Kratos's head was more rounded than 47's in Hitman Absolution lol!
Dictator93
Member
Does Hitman absolution Agent 47 bald head have tessellation? That would be weird if it managed to be rounder.
Any Questions
Member
1974 gun fight = super wagon adventure
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
2009 animation was not so good in games that these are not impressive.
Thanks, you can't have tessellated screws in concrete barriers neither parallax in wall decals like in the gif Dictator93 posted without my mod
I agree with almost everything in the OP.
These would be my only changes:
1997: Harley Davidson & LA Riders -> Virtua Striker 2 / Time Crisis 2
1999: Outcast -> Shenmue
2000: Giants: Citizen Kabuto -> Dead or Alive 2
2001: Return to Castle Wolfenstein -> Rogue Leader
2005: FEAR -> Project Gotham Racing 3
These would be my only changes:
1997: Harley Davidson & LA Riders -> Virtua Striker 2 / Time Crisis 2
1999: Outcast -> Shenmue
2000: Giants: Citizen Kabuto -> Dead or Alive 2
2001: Return to Castle Wolfenstein -> Rogue Leader
2005: FEAR -> Project Gotham Racing 3
SystemUser
Member
Yeah, Street Fighter 2 on the SNES is fun but how could it be the most technologically advanced game of that year when it wasn't even the most technologically advance Street Fighter 2 game that year?
Spaced Harrier
Member
Dead rising felt very nextgen at the time. 2006 wasn't it.
Do you even know what GI is? This does not equate to instant day night cycle at all??!With GI it is slightly other way around
If you want to play the "if" game, if DC was on PC you could no doubt get the same visuals at 60fps with even better image quality provided you have the hardware. Just because a game is on a closed platform limitation doesn't make it unimpressive. DC is also locked at 30fps with no drops, so the game has to be running somewhere above 30fps anyway.
The Gears of War mentioned in the OP is on 360. By the next year when the PC version released it was destroyed by Crysis.
What year's do you think he's overlooked them for?
I can kinda see 2014 with Driveclub (even if I don't agree personally)... but I'd love to hear what year you think Nintendo should have won.
On PC I'm sure it does and 47's head is as rounded as Kratos' BUT the first uses raw power and a has quite a heavy impact on performance, the second uses MLAA that gives great results while asking for less resources. In my opinion we should give more credits to these methods rather than throwing the most resource-demanding games in the list.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
It came out in 2014, though I personally would place it above Unity as I can't separate Unity from it's myriad of technical problems. Yes it was stunning but it ran at the same framerate as a PowerPoint Presentation
bananafactory
Banned
Infamous Second Son was 2014. And even in 2013 it would have been topped by Killzone: Shadowfall
The game was poorly optimized for consoles but that doesn't completely invalidate the tech behind it. Unity has some of the most impressive technical features and visuals seen this generation so far, so while it runs like dogshit on PS4 and XB1, it is indeed extremely impressive on a high end PC.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I think most of the stuff on PS4 and above will probably be non contenders. The hardware just isn't very capable in comparison. If a company really pushes technology in a certain direction, (which I personally feel Driveclub accomplished), I could see it, but sheer image quality and framerate? Nah. PS4 is drastically under powered compared to modern PC's.
Now PS3 and 360 were a different story, when they first dropped, they had arguably more power than a typical good pc.
Winterfang
Banned
That early SEGA domination. Brings a tear to my eye.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That's pretty much all it seemed to have besides the PBR and reflective streets, the world didn't feel very alive at all. Was very disappointed.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Be that as it may, I played the game on a console that was a year old and should have been more than capable of playing a stable version of the game with it's graphical features more or less present. That makes the game in general technically unimpressive to me.
While true, performance should not be ignored (not bugs, performance issues due to bad coding and stuff), otherwise I'd say that even more games are missing from the list, starting with the mess that was Gran Turismo 5 in 2010.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
See but this isn't a thread about most technically impressive on fixed hardware. If the PC is part of this equation then all gloves are off lol.
This ... Early PS2-gen and early Ps3/360 gen were the only real time consoles could challenge PCs.
derExperte
Member
Yep, a list like this just doesn't work without at least mentioning Doom for '93, it was one of the biggest jumps ahead ever. And +1 for Strike Commander, crazy good looking.
I would also add Wing Commander '90 and Comanche '92.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
I know the OP mentioned something along these lines, but I still think these 'rules' should be a but more open to interpretation.
bananafactory
Banned
I guess, maybe I misunderstood the thread then.
There should be a clarification if we're simply talking about what games contain the most impressive technical features and systems, irregardless of performance, or if we're looking for the most "well rounded" games, ones that have quite a bit going on but also run solidly across all systems.
There's a whole lot of variables here though so I don't know if it's possible to come to a consensus. What platforms do we take into consideration? What's acceptable performance? How do we decide which game is more "technically advanced" when you have one that APPEARS better visually but runs like ass, vs one that maybe is less complex but is a smooth 60 fps.
I don't think we'll ever get agreement.
DirgeExtinction
Member
So from the OP, it seems this is "what were the prettiest/best looking games" list rather than "what were the most technically advanced(as in work done under the hood) games" list.