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[gogogow]

this thing just came out, considering every nintendo fan knows this is nintendo next home console and handheld, of course it's gonna have a good launch, don't get me wrong it's great handheld, but as a home console it's not good hardware. the only reason nintendo combined them cause they don't feel there home consoles have a market anymore.

Wth are you even talking about!? Have you read the article? Have you even read the OP?
The article isn't about the success of the Switch launch. It's about the positive experience people are having with the device. Maybe don't just read the thread title next time. But gotta go fast with downplaying of a positive Nintendo article.

 

[Sami+]

And what difference does that make...if it was true?

I mean it kinda sucks if you primarily use it as a console and don't care much for the handheld part. I'm warming up to it though, Zelda just wasn't a very good launch game for me- Mario Kart would have sold me on the concept a lot more since it's a game I enjoy both at home and on the go, whereas Zelda isn't something I really want to play anywhere but on a decently sized TV.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

ive no idea about sales stuff, buti t deserves to sell more than the wii, because its BETTER than the wii.

love mine

 

[reKon]

When the first souls game arrives to Switch it's all over

That's some dangerous shit we're talking about here. People have real lives!

 

[Omnistalgic]

Battery life is awesome for what the system does. Haven't even reached close to any low battery problems while playing on the go. Haven't had issues with the wifi either. Remember how bad the PS4's is? It doesn't even support wireless AC. Trophies are arguable, don't really care one way or the other as I haven't hunted achievements since the early 360 era after breaking 100K GS.

You're free to spend your time however you want. Personally I've been finding it hard to stick with a slow paced game like Persona 5 as a console experience. Same goes for Gravity Rush 2 which I finished and thought was fairly boring and is one of the few games that I've actually fallen asleep to. Switch has been an excellent complement to my gaming PC where I'm covered for most games, but the flexibility of Switch has me playing it way more than anything else right now.

PS4 has an ethernet slot though man, Wifi in my area is just unreliable. I hardly ever go online anyway, so it's not a big deal, just tried a few times with Mario kart and it's not smooth, plenty of people have had the same issue in MK8 thread. I don't trophy hunt either, i just like to see the Plat for games I really really get into, there's a whole community based around it though so I fail to see why Nintendo keeps ignoring it.

GR2 is great fun for me and P5 is GOTY stuff, I have Nioh, Nier, and builders to get to as well, just saying, there's a lot left to play on PS4, Switch isn't gobbling up all my game time like others have mentioned. I definitely see how you put down PC/PS4 etc..though when you first get it, it's pretty freeing being able to take it with you and continue where you left off. Zelda for example I really like playing only on the TV, kart though is super fun everywhere.

Not sure what I'm getting next though until Mario, maybe I'll try Splatoon out.

 

[xochipiltontli]

I like the system a lot and can't wait for its library to grow some more. I think it resonates well with people because it's following trends in all electronic hardware i.e. moving to mobile devices despite them not being that powerful because they're a lot more convenient and do 99% of what people want them to do. Everyone could buy a really nice desktop, but you generally see people buy macbooks or surfaces because they're just so much more practical in the lives of people who have places to go, or simply because you can move them around in your house effortlessly which is great when you just want to watch netflix without a TV/monitor. I kind of wish most games would get ported to the system (even if they're uglier) because I find it a lot easier to play games when I'm not confined to a space in front of the TV, and when I do want to do that, the option is there.

 

[Malyse]

So, you're telling me that the Wii sales goal isn't a Nintendo fever dream?

 

[Servbot24]

It does seem to have that weird fanaticism that defined vita owners.

Vita was great hardware with a shitload of games.

Switch is decent hardware with a couple games. Hopefully Switch will eventually get there,

 

[Spirited]

Vita was great hardware with a shitload of games.

Switch is decent hardware with a couple games. Hopefully Switch will eventually get there,

What made the vita hardware better than the switch relatively?

 

[Bronetta]

What made the vita hardware better than the switch relatively?

The Vita has a better dpad than Switch, scratch that it has the best dpad ever. The OLED screen is a big deal for some too.


Thats about all it has going for it though.

 

[Wamb0wneD]

Vita was great hardware with a shitload of games.

Switch is decent hardware with a couple games. Hopefully Switch will eventually get there,

How was Vita great and Switch only decent? And I'll take quality over quantity any day, thanks.

 

[pretty done]

Much like i loved the Vita

I love the Switch for many of the same reasons... and then some

I look forward to playing Monster Hunter (in docked mode) with you online

 

[reKon]

Sony evangelists should stay in their own threads, it's getting pretty tiring to read the same old arguments all the time. Don't you guys have anything better to do? Like playing your playstation? Oh, are you at work and don't have time? Buy a Switch and game during breaks! It works in school too!



This machine is the console for dads. If you have a small kid and you actually participate in his/her daily life you won't get lots of free time. Switch allows me to sneak some gaming time in between my son's needs, study, work, my damn wife needs attention too... Then I have to sleep and eat and buy food and make the food and... Oh, and I just can't get TV time, if I open the TV my son wants to watch something. Evenings are usually occupied with some series with wife. Switch allows me to play when the TV show is something woman-like, like Vain Elämää or something.


The laptop analogy that someone wrote fits the Switch pretty well. People use laptops because they are convenient and not set in one place. Like Switch. Laptop are weaker than desktops, like Switch is weaker than broconsoles.

But in the end laptop and Switch both have the same capabilities than their stronger relatives, they are just a tad weaker. But you can move them from place tLo place, and they are convenient. They don't need a dedicated place like a console or desktop does.

In my opinion that analogy sums up pretty well the success factors Switch has over others. Different strengths, suits the modern lifestyle.

Not sure what's up with all this warrior fuel you're spurring up because the last few pages have been positive for the most part, but just so you're aware, people have been able to do these things using remote play if they have fast connection (at least 50 MBPS and a solid router). If you want to talk about gaming in the kitchen, I can throw my 12 inch samsung tablet on my fridge because of the magnet on it and play PS4 remote play on it wirelessly, lol... This is why this feature was so important for me. I've been able to travel across to another state and leave my PS4 at home. I've done this on WiFi and LTE...

Obviously the Switch is the much better solution because of the responsiveness factor, especially when you're out of state, and I'm sure that I will prefer to game on it. Just stating that this whole convenience thing isn't something new.

 

[Bronetta]

Not sure what's up with all this warrior fuel you're spurring up because the last few pages have been positive for the most part, but just so you're aware, people have been able to do these things using remote play if they have fast connection (at least 50 MBPS and a solid router). If you want to talk about gaming in the kitchen, I can throw my 12 inch samsung tablet on my fridge because of the magnet on it and play PS4 remote play on it wirelessly, lol... This is why this feature was so important for me. I've been able to travel across to another state and leave my PS4 at home. I've done this on WiFi and LTE...

Obviously the Switch is the much better solution because of the responsiveness factor, especially when you're out of state, and I'm sure that I will prefer to game on it. Just stating that this whole convenience thing isn't something new.

Remote play is highly situational and doesnt work reliably for everyone, unlike the Switch being play anywhere with no strings attached.

 

[reKon]

Remote play is highly situational and doesnt work reliably for everyone, unlike the Switch being play anywhere with no strings attached.

The last two sentences though...

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

Great article.

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

Im not sure if thats a US thing, but in Portugal I've never seen anyone with one, nor I know anyone who has actually played one (even though theres plenty to buy on most tech stores).

As for the article, it sure does look like an advertisement.

 

[Dre3001]

While everyone is raving about the portability, I'm surprised so many are downplaying the system in docked mode.

Weren't people stating in the Switch specs thread that based on the hardware the switch is slightly weaker than an Xbox one.

I think I remember distinctly posters mentioning that the PS4 is only about 3-4x stronger than a switch. This may seem like a lot but compared to the Wii and the PS3 where the difference was almost 20x as strong, I think the switch is more than decent as a home console system.

If anything the switch is a good home console system and an amazing portable system.

 

[MattKeil]

I'll have to take the article's word for it, I suppose, since I have literally never seen anyone using one in public ever.

Im not sure if thats a US thing, but in Portugal I've never seen anyone with one, nor I know anyone who has actually played one (even though theres plenty to buy on most tech stores).

As for the article, it sure does look like an advertisement.

I'm in the US and the only people I know who own one got it from Nintendo as part of their job. It is not in any way a thing mainstream people even really know about yet.

 

[marc^o^]

As for the article, it sure does look like an advertisement.

The whole thread does.

 

[Principate]

I'll have to take the article's word for it, I suppose, since I have literally never seen anyone using one in public ever.

I mean there's like what 4-5 million total worldwide if we're generous. The chances would be pretty low regardless.

 

[Trojita]

If you are very into the Switch, then this article enforces your belief through anecdotal encounters with his colleagues and close friends.

Those of us that know how Polygon operates, still remember the Mario Kart pie charts, and can read the article with clear eyes might disagree with the assertion of the article.

It's written a bit ridiculous.

Usually consoles sell because of games, not because they offer such an enjoyable, unique experience that using the system itself becomes a selling point. Nintendo has moved in the other direction; the games are going to sell because of the hardware.

This statement is bullshit. Nobody bought the switch without Zelda and no one is buying it now without Mario Kart being released.

At the end of the day this system is release successful and has a good road ahead of it if Nintendo puts in the momentum.

 

[plagiarize]

I mean there's like what 4-5 million total worldwide if we're generous. The chances would be pretty low regardless.

True, but the anecdote is pretty hilarious all the same, since the only people he knows with a switch got free ones from Nintendo.

That is 100% a very small minority of switch owners.

At the end of the day that is bullshit. Nobody bought the switch without Zelda and no one is buying it now without Mario Kart being released.

Let me put it better than Polygon did, because I've thought about this.

The Switch is a desirable piece of hardware, that people will be looking at to see if it has enough games on the system to justify it's purchase, and that never fucking happened with the Wii U, or the Wii, or the Gamecube, or the N64.

Have you never looked at a piece of tech and wanted it, even if you couldn't justify it? The Switch is the first time Nintendo have made something that is appealing to people in that way.

 

[reKon]

I'll have to take the article's word for it, I suppose, since I have literally never seen anyone using one in public ever.

I haven't seen any in Chicago either, but I'm usually busing to work with other young working professionals so I wouldn't expect it to be common amongst them. I could see people on the El playing though.

It's success makes a lot of sense. In the origin thread my prediction is that it was very easily destroy the Wii U and Gamecube in sales, but definitely fall short of Wii. We'll see how that goes. I would actually love if Nintendo pulled a Sony and did a Switch Pro, 3 years from now.

 

[Bronetta]

The last two sentences though...

What about it?

I cant remote play on the train. I cant remote play when it counts.

Vita doesnt even have L2/R2 or clickable sticks so remote play is gimped by default.

Comparing remote play to what the Switch does isnt a good comparison.

 

[Oregano]

If you are very into the Switch, then this article enforces your belief through anecdotal encounters with his colleagues and close friends.

Those of us that know how Polygon operates, still remember the Mario Kart pie charts, and can read the article with clear eyes might disagree with the assertion of the article.

It's written a bit ridiculous.



This statement is bullshit. Nobody bought the switch without Zelda and no one is buying it now without Mario Kart being released.

At the end of the day this system is release successful and has a good road ahead of it if Nintendo puts in the momentum.

I don't think that bit is as ridiculious as you suggest. MK8D debuted better than MK8 in the US and UK despite being a rerelease launching on a smaller install base which would imply that there's something inherently more appealing.

 

[gogogow]

What made the vita hardware better than the switch relatively?

It really wasn't. Both are using chips that are about 2 years old at the time of release.
I guess the only thing that fares a bit better was the screen resolution of the Vita. At the time phones had a max of 720p screens. In 2017 most phones are between 1080p and 2K. In that aspect the Switch is slightly behind the Vita.

The Vita has a better dpad than Switch, scratch that it has the best dpad ever. The OLED screen is a big deal for some too.



Thats about all it has going for it though.

I like the OLED screen of the Vita. But it has its ups and downs. Screen retention, oversaturated colours, mura effect. None that I care about, but others do. The Switch screen supports full sRGB gamut. Also, Nintendo actually took the effort to calibrate the screen.

 

[LegendofLex]

Have you never looked at a piece of tech and wanted it, even if you couldn't justify it? The Switch is the first time Nintendo have made something that is appealing to people in that way.

I... don't think this is true? The success Switch is having is totally explainable through normal metrics of success, with the main difference between Switch and past Nintendo consoles being that none of them (bar Wii) had two "phenomenon" games release this close to the launch (Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe).

The mobility piece is important, sure, but it's only important because of the software that's there. Wii probably wouldn't have caught fire in quite the way that it did without Wii Sports, Twilight Princess, and its other early hits. Same's true for Switch.

 

[Oppo]

The Switch screen supports full sRGB gamut. Also, Nintendo actually took the effort to calibrate the screen.

that true...?

would be curious to know what the Switch's sRGB coverage rating is. you say it's 100% but are you sure about that? hint: this is rare. not impossible. but rare.

it's easy to "support" but the gamut is the thing.

 

[reKon]

What about it?

I cant remote play on the train. I cant remote play when it counts.

Vita doesnt even have L2/R2 or clickable sticks so remote play is gimped by default.

Comparing remote play to what the Switch does isnt a good comparison.

At home specifically, I've been able to obtain that same convenience that he/she was describing as if it were something that has never been possible on a light weight device.

When not at home, I know that playing on an LTE connection is possible because of I've done it before in a hotel (travel would be obviously unreliable compared to a Switch).

I used a full PS4 controller when using remote play and play it on my tablet, not a Vita. And no I'm not saying it's the same exact experience. I even stated that I would prefer gaming on the Switch.

 

[Trojita]

I don't think that bit is as ridiculious as you suggest. MK8D debuted better than MK8 in the US and UK despite being a rerelease launching on a smaller install base which would imply that there's something inherently more appealing.

I thought the common perception now is that the Wii U never existed and MK8D is the first release.

Spoiler

The people that bought the Switch for Zelda are buying MK8D. The ones now buying it are buying both.

 

[gogogow]

that true...?

would be curious to know what the Switch's sRGB coverage rating is. you say it's 100% but are you sure about that? hint: this is rare. not impossible. but rare.

it's easy to "support" but the gamut is the thing.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1369087&page=1

 

[LegendofLex]

I thought the common perception now is that the Wii U never existed and MK8D is the first release.

Spoiler

The people that bought the Switch for Zelda are buying MK8D. The ones now buying it are buying both.

Yeah, while MK8 "should have" sold more Wii Us, the fact of the matter is that even by early 2014 the widespread perception was that it was a failed platform.

 

[Oregano]

that true...?

would be curious to know what the Switch's sRGB coverage rating is. you say it's 100% but are you sure about that? hint: this is rare. not impossible. but rare.

it's easy to "support" but the gamut is the thing.

Erica Griffin did a video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvDdaVZ7MCU

 

[night814]

This statement is bullshit. Nobody bought the switch without Zelda and no one is buying it now without Mario Kart being released

I thought everyone bought it for the sleek af UI

 

[Nostremitus]

The whole thread does.

So, if people enjoy a thing and discuss it's merits, its an advertisement?

Only negativity and edgy remarks are acceptable conversation?

 

[Oppo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1369087&page=1

huh, good for them. thanks.

boy the 3DS screen was hot garbage huh.

gonna watch the vid now, hope she actually measured this.

 

[mindsale]

So, if people enjoy a thing and discuss it's merits, its an advertisement?

Only negativity and edgy remarks are acceptable conversation?

Reservation and skepticism is "edgy?"

I own a Switchi and enjoy it, but I've yet to build it an altar and drip-feed it lambsblood.

 

[brinstar]

Yeah Nintendo did good with this one, it fits perfectly into my lifestyle. I hope the support comes, because I could very easily see myself buying a ton of games for this thing.

 

[JC Lately]

Reservation and skepticism is "edgy?"

I own a Switchi and enjoy it, but I've yet to build it an altar and drip-feed it lambsblood.

So that's why we don't have Smash Switch yet. Get on that shit, mindsale!

OT: Well that good news.

I don't have one yet, but that's just because the best games for it right now, BoTW and MK8, I already own an (objectively inferior but) perfectly serviceable copy of on the Wii U.

When Splatoon 2 and Xenoblade drop though, I'll be there with bells on.

 

[Creamium]

Usually consoles sell because of games, not because they offer such an enjoyable, unique experience that using the system itself becomes a selling point. Nintendo has moved in the other direction; the games are going to sell because of the hardware.

This has been said in other threads and it's looking pretty likely. Just for myself I've experienced it. Wonder Boy is out on PS4 but the portability pushed me to the Switch version. Same with Mario Kart, a game I'd already played a ton of on the WiiU.

 

[reKon]

so if the experiences documented in this thread and by gaming journalists are real, you mean that I'll be able to casually do a severe ass whooping to randoms I run across playing Smash?

my body is ready

 

[TEJ]

Bought one today, with zelda and mario. It's a delightful system.

Just wish mk8d online wouldn't disconnect so much

 

[kitchenmotors]

I haven't seen any in Chicago either, but I'm usually busing to work with other young working professionals so I wouldn't expect it to be common amongst them. I could see people on the El playing though.

It's success makes a lot of sense. In the origin thread my prediction is that it was very easily destroy the Wii U and Gamecube in sales, but definitely fall short of Wii. We'll see how that goes. I would actually love if Nintendo pulled a Sony and did a Switch Pro, 3 years from now.

Chicagoland area here and I've seen a few in the wild, not to mention I have 4 or 5 friends who have a Switch.

Also saw a few at c2e2.

 

[iHaunter]

That's a "We got paid a lottta money" article tbh.

The Switch is "Ok" my roommate has it. The price for its accessories are insane. $50 for half of a controller is kind of nuts to me.

Overall we'll see where it goes. Zelda was good, Mario looks interesting.

 

[JoeBoy101]

The Switch is basically a waifu.

Oh FFS. Thanks. The fanart is now underway, I'm sure.

 

[Finn]

I saw a teen playing a Switch while walking with his parents in Home Depot, and an adult playing one in the movie theater before Guardians or the Galaxy, Vol. 2. Those are the only ones I've seen. I haven't taken mine out of the house bc I think I'd feel like too big a nerd.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Vita was great hardware with a shitload of games.

Switch is decent hardware with a couple games. Hopefully Switch will eventually get there,

Vita had a shitload of time to build a library, Switch has been out a few months. This comparison shouldn't even be implied, come on.

 

[SgtCobra]

So, you're telling me that the Wii sales goal isn't a Nintendo fever dream?

The wii sold a crazy amount of units and it will be pretty dificult to reach that nowadays.

 

[atbigelow]

PS4 has an ethernet slot though man, Wifi in my area is just unreliable. I hardly ever go online anyway, so it's not a big deal, just tried a few times with Mario kart and it's not smooth, plenty of people have had the same issue in MK8 thread. I don't trophy hunt either, i just like to see the Plat for games I really really get into, there's a whole community based around it though so I fail to see why Nintendo keeps ignoring it.

I felt great unhooking my Wii U's sensor bar and Ethernet adapter. That adapter was the first thing I plugged into the Switch dock. Sucks the dock didn't just have one inside it, but I've been using this adapter for years now. It's graduated to a system worth having it for.