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[CJY]

What about it?

I cant remote play on the train. I cant remote play when it counts.

Vita doesnt even have L2/R2 or clickable sticks so remote play is gimped by default.

Comparing remote play to what the Switch does isnt a good comparison.

That subtle concenience factor alone cannot be attributed to Switch's success as the tangible benefits of the nature of it being a hybrid system are not immediately apparent until you own/use the system.

I've said previously that remote play is a poor comparison to the switch, on that point I agree with you. However, the switch is not doing a whole lot more in essence that what the vita is capable of, at least if you ignore the inevitable advances in processor/SOC technology.

It's clear to me that many factors are at play here to create this perfect storm for switch's success. I feel success (80m+ units sold) is now inevitable, barring some major fuck-ups. Nintendo have the expertise and experience to manage this situation. It's great to see.

 

[UltimaWeapon]

Loving my switch, it sure is makes my 45 min. cardio sessions fly by. Using thd 24hr fitness wifi to play mk8dx online.

I love this, and would love to do it, but I feel like I wouldn't have the coordination for it lol.

 

[Alienfan]

The positive press it has been getting is kind of weird to be honest. I like the idea of the system, but there are a couple of stupid decisions like small storage, one inferior joy-con, a kickstand that barley supports the systems weight and overpriced accessories. I'm also not having a huge amount of fun with the games. I thought Mario Kart was lacking in content and the single player was pretty trash (but the reasons why I hate it seem to be why people love the series, the so called "balancing"), and Zelda has been a great open world game, but I'm kind of done with it. Again I love the idea of the system (portable console games!), I just think for me personally, I would love Nintendo to get a few more third party titles for me to play on the go, and keep a steady stream of new games coming out

 

[ubiblu]

I thought Mario Kart was lacking in content and the single player was pretty trash

Imma stop you right there playa. You do not appear to be the target demographic for this title.

We have just passed the 2 Month mark. Give it some time. On review of the PS4 and XBone launch months and beyond, the Switch looks to be well catered for.

 

[Calm Mind]

Imagine you're Nintendo and you've made this thing that has consumers immediately excited about. Now imagine you're a 3rd party publisher and those same consumers want you to develop for this new thing but you've become accustomed to another thing you knew was safe.

3rd parties must be scared shitless at the thought of this things success. They might actually have to put effort against Nintendo's 1st party offerings.

 

[sleepnaught]

My only criticisms are the lack of VC still, no OS customization, app support like Netflix, and the lack of games that interest me. I'm holding on for now with MK8D, but ARMS and Splatoon 2 had better deliver or else this thing is likely to collect dust until some of the bigger indie titles and Mario comes out. Hope E3 really delivers this year.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

The positive press it has been getting is kind of weird to be honest. I like the idea of the system, but there are a couple of stupid decisions like small storage, one inferior joy-con, a kickstand that barley supports the systems weight and overpriced accessories.

In the grand scheme of things, all of these points are incredibly minor and would almost never dissuade someone who's interested in the Switch from purchasing it.

Enthusiast sites like NeoGAF tend to over-analyze things like this and are then surprised when general consumers didn't actually care.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

The Switch essentially represents the coming together of Nintendo's console and portable divisions, yes? For how much longer are they likely to support the 3DS, rather than pump first party titles out for the Switch steadily and consistently?

 

[jariw]

The Switch essentially represents the coming together of Nintendo's console and portable divisions, yes? For how much longer are they likely to support the 3DS, rather than pump first party titles out for the Switch steadily and consistently?

They will continue to release 3DS titles, but nothing big. They have already moved all major development to the Switch.

 

[piggychan]

This was selling amazingly in Hong Kong over the last few weeks I was there. Every vendor had sold a nintendo switch unit where I was present. I should have bought the hong kong version since their voltage is the same as UK

Now I'm back in the UK looking to get a switch everywhere is sold out...

 

[Lord Frieza]

Loving my switch, it sure is makes my 45 min. cardio sessions fly by. Using thd 24hr fitness wifi to play mk8dx online.

How are you playing it. Where's the controller?

 

[Machina]

How are you playing it. Where's the controller?

Joy Con in each hand off screen

 

[rockyt]

Loving my switch, it sure is makes my 45 min. cardio sessions fly by. Using thd 24hr fitness wifi to play mk8dx online.

Unrelated a bit but the machine your exercising for is from precore. The display you have the switch on and its various parts most of them were tested and process in by me lol. Was a pain in the ass.

 

[Amir0x]

I dont know if owning one would make a difference, but for me Switch hasn't offered me anything that makes me feel it is necessary to own it. I've played Zelda now a bunch thanks to my brother-in-law's Switch, both handheld mode and tv mode. Played Puyo Tetris, but that really isnt anything surprising if you understand those puzzle concepts from the past.

The games just aren't there for me yet, and being portable doesn't actually involve any revelations. They just feel like portable games, and when given the option I always opt for playing on a big screen with the best available options. That's actually part of the problem, being able to plug it into the tv takes away my desire to want to play it portable but then it just feels like an extremely weak console. I lose either way

Maybe down the road when the library becomes compelling it'll be more of a must get. And maybe it's also because Zelda was really not the type of Zelda game I was looking for, and that's literally the only game I was currently excited for outside of Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 (edit: Oh, also Project Octopath Traveler). It still has the same issues I had with past Nintendo consoles, which is tech holding back a system for benefits that are tangible for others but not really for me. I already got my "console on the go" out of my system years ago and I've moved on from portables, dont really even play my Vita anymore nor smartphone games.

And it's not like it adds any gameplay benefits. So for my lifestyle, seems like it's similar to other systems in that it just needs games to interest me. The system itself is too barebones, has too many current issues with its build, and is missing a compelling game library. Which means it is like every system when it launches for me. I just wish Zelda was for me, it's my favorite continuing franchise so it hurts a bit that I didn't like the direction. Maybe I'd be more gotta have it if I enjoyed my time with it more or if i liked Mario Kart

 

[Jaded Alyx]

I don't really like my switch. I was never into portable handhelds. So that's not a selling point for me. I hated the joy cons the system came with. I was never a Zelda fan. I hated playing Zelda at first. That was my only game , so for the first month of the switch I never really played it much. I did buy a pro controller and than I started over again playing Zelda. Playing with the pro controller I did enjoy Zelda a lot more. Got Mario kart, I'm bored with that game already. I did have it on Wii u tho. For me personally there is no games coming out that Interest me till Mario. Arms don't look that good to me, splatoon looks somewhat interesting. I'm glad everyone is enjoying their switch though. The more systems that sells is good for the industry.

....aand you bought it because.....???

 

[MrCookiepants]

The Switch is the best piece of gaming hardware ever designed.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

 

[De_Legend]

We'll see when I get one, way too pricey for now, in Canada.

 

[MarcoZombieCannon]

Where's the rest of his sentence? Silly tumblr gifs.

Honestly, yeah. I can 100% attest to the sentiment. Since buying my Switch it's taken over most of my gaming time. I play it at home, I play it during my break at work, during my commute, when my friends get together we play Switch. I haven't really been this into a piece of hardware... ever.

 

[Mr. Wedgewood]

This works really well on an elliptical too. Got a Binding of Isaac run done today doing that.

Decided to try the elliptical today instead of the bike. Maybe should of used the one that doesn't have the arm thing. 😂

 

[piggychan]

Decided to try the elliptical today instead of the bike. Maybe should of used the one that doesn't have the arm thing. 😂

I can't wait for a SWITCH FIT title !

 

[Naked Snake]

This was selling amazingly in Hong Kong over the last few weeks I was there. Every vendor had sold a nintendo switch unit where I was present. I should have bought the hong kong version since their voltage is the same as UK

Now I'm back in the UK looking to get a switch everywhere is sold out...

Switch AC adapter is universal voltage everywhere.

 

[brain_stew]

The Switch essentially represents the coming together of Nintendo's console and portable divisions, yes? For how much longer are they likely to support the 3DS, rather than pump first party titles out for the Switch steadily and consistently?

While there's still a £200 price difference between the Switch and the low end 2DS, there'll continue to be a market for the 2DS. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 3D models start to drop off the shelves sooner rather than later though.

Between the 2DS and new 2DS Nintendo have the low-mid range portable market covered quite well.

 

[Haunted]

When the first souls game arrives to Switch it's all over

Souls collection for Switch.


Do it, From.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

The Switch is the best piece of gaming hardware ever designed.

Really?

- A dock that scratches the console.
- The left joycon desyncing.
- Very limited storage.
- You can't charge the joycon grip.
- The joycon grip doesn't have a headphone jack.

I'm generally pretty positive on the Switch, but let's not pretend it doesn't have a lot of small annoyances.

 

[Principate]

Really?

- A dock that scratches the console.
- The left joycon desyncing.
- Very limited storage.
- You can't charge the joycon grip.
- The joycon grip doesn't have a headphone jack.

I'm generally pretty positive on the Switch, but let's not pretend it doesn't have a lot of small annoyances.

Judging by how widespread it is it doesn't seem like the dock fundamentally scratched the console. Bent plastic which can occur during transit does that.

 

[Ever]

The Switch is the best piece of gaming hardware ever designed.

Made me roll my eyes IRL.

Well done.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Judging by how widespread it is it doesn't seem like the dock fundamentally scratched the console. Bent plastic which can occur during transit does that.

....which is still a design flaw. A big one.

 

[Speely]

The Switch is the best piece of gaming hardware ever designed.

For my money, I agree. It's amazing design and feels great to play anywhere. Game changer for me.

Edit: Your post might have been sarcastic (hard to tell on GAF,) but either way I can't think of a better piece of hardware.

 

[Oddduck]

I don't really like my switch. I was never into portable handhelds. So that's not a selling point for me. I hated the joy cons the system came with. I was never a Zelda fan. I hated playing Zelda at first. That was my only game , so for the first month of the switch I never really played it much. I did buy a pro controller and than I started over again playing Zelda. Playing with the pro controller I did enjoy Zelda a lot more. Got Mario kart, I'm bored with that game already. I did have it on Wii u tho. For me personally there is no games coming out that Interest me till Mario. Arms don't look that good to me, splatoon looks somewhat interesting. I'm glad everyone is enjoying their switch though. The more systems that sells is good for the industry.

I don't understand why you bought a Switch.

You don't care about portability (the main selling point behind Switch).
You don't like the joycons. (another selling point of Switch)
You don't care about most of the launch window games.

What made you want to buy a Switch? Was it pure hype?

 

[SalvaPot]

Really?

- A dock that scratches the console.
- The left joycon desyncing.
- Very limited storage.
- You can't charge the joycon grip.
- The joycon grip doesn't have a headphone jack.

I'm generally pretty positive on the Switch, but let's not pretend it doesn't have a lot of small annoyances.

I'm curious, what other system is better designed, and what would be the best?

Edit: Also, I think the person you quoted was talking about the concept tied with the hardware and functionality more than the actual plastic and circuits.

 

[foxuzamaki]

I'm pretty sure the dock scratching is a no imal problem

 

[cuate]

Made me roll my eyes IRL.

Well done.

not sure why. it's a perfectly fine opinion to have.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

I'm curious, what other system is better designed, and what would be the best?

- PS2.
- PS3.
- PS4.
- Vita.
- SNES.
- GameCube.
- Xbox One.

And I'd say the

Spoiler

Vita

is the best of the bunch.

 

[dock]

I haven't turned on my PS4 or gaming PC since getting the Switch. Mostly because Zelda is still amazing but also because I associate PC and PS4 gaming with annoyances (PC games that don't work, hackers and shitty account lock outs on PS4).

I'll probably always choose the Switch version of games I buy.

My only frustration is the lack of refund for games that are defective, like Blaster Master's scaling issues. That and Switch tax.

 

[Panajev2001a]

In the grand scheme of things, all of these points are incredibly minor and would almost never dissuade someone who's interested in the Switch from purchasing it.

Enthusiast sites like NeoGAF tend to over-analyze things like this and are then surprised when general consumers didn't actually care.

The kickstand issue though... it is really freaking annoying, a single very much off center thin little kickstand seems to be designed for even minor vibrations to slam the console to the ground... I expect better for £279 and a piece of the console that is directly linked to the safety of one of its marketed use modes.

 

[atpbx]

iPad situation? You realise iPads (and tablets in general) have been in decline for long time now?

It's not strictly the same.

iPad sales are in decline because people don't need to buy new iPads.

My wife's iPad is 4 years old, she uses it every single day, watching videos, browsing, playing stupid little finding things games she loves it to pieces, she doesn't need to replace it.

Mine is two years old, I use it each and every day, browsing, watching videos, emails, work etc.

Everyone I know that has an iPad is the same, they hammer the shit of them on a daily basis, but they are only going to get replaced when they stop working.

The same goes for millions of other people.

Apple are in a JCB/Aveling Barford situation with the IPad, it just doesn't go wrong, and for what people use them for they don't need the latest greatest iteration.

So once you have one, unless you are chronic hipster or insane Apple fanboy, you don't need to keep buying a new one.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I'm curious, what other system is better designed, and what would be the best?

Edit: Also, I think the person you quoted was talking about the concept tied with the hardware and functionality more than the actual plastic and circuits.

Well the kickstand mode and the spotty WiFi support are both directly related to make the promised functionality a usable reality.

 

[Widge]

However, the switch is not doing a whole lot more in essence that what the vita is capable of, at least if you ignore the inevitable advances in processor/SOC technology.

I think the subtleties are key though. First thing I thought of when I had the Vita was "does this have TV out?" and then being rather gutted that it didn't, with an additional box in the shape of the PSTV not really being a solution to that.

Then there is the support factor. Switch is Nintendo's flagship platform, the Vita is not Sony's. And this transpired in the treatment from their core IP's and the third party crew. Mainline IPs felt an absolute shadow of what their big brother was showcasing. And while there were plenty of cross platform benefits, you did start to feel that the Vita was a bit of a companion platform rather than its own entity.

Also I wasn't quite down with the way Sony threw technology at the hardware. That rear touch panel really was a step too far. If the WiiU was Nintendo getting it wrong with bringing portable and home together (taking the DS into the house), then the Switch was them getting it right.

All of these bring together a sense of goodwill and positivity about the platform and you are drawn to it more than its competitors. This sort of thing is vital. It is also what Sony nailed in the latter half of the PS3 gen. It didn't wheel out a new console, it brought a lot of bespoke IP's to the platform and a PSN+ masterstroke, and that sense of goodwill and engagement saw the platform grow.

 

[ninjablade]

Wth are you even talking about!? Have you read the article? Have you even read the OP?
The article isn't about the success of the Switch launch. It's about the positive experience people are having with the device. Maybe don't just read the thread title next time. But gotta go fast with downplaying of a positive Nintendo article.

The reply was directed more to the posters saying that Nintendo has the next wi, or big hit on there hands, as a handheld it's amazing device, and I'm sure people will be very pleased, but you're looking for a home console, its not a good alternative, unless you have a gaming pc.

 

[MogCakes]

As soon as Pokemon and Fire Emblem are on this thing I am humping in

 

[Plum]

As soon as Pokemon and Fire Emblem are on this thing I am humping in

The Nintendo Switch has become the system people love to love

 

[SalvaPot]

- PS2.
- PS3.
- PS4.
- Vita.
- SNES.
- GameCube.
- Xbox One.

And I'd say the

Spoiler

Vita

is the best of the bunch.

Vita should have supported all kinds of memory cards, its sad, really.

Gamecube is my favorite for sure.

 

[Herb Alpert]

The positive press it has been getting is kind of weird to be honest. I like the idea of the system, but there are a couple of stupid decisions like small storage, one inferior joy-con, a kickstand that barley supports the systems weight and overpriced accessories. I'm also not having a huge amount of fun with the games. I thought Mario Kart was lacking in content and the single player was pretty trash (but the reasons why I hate it seem to be why people love the series, the so called "balancing"), and Zelda has been a great open world game, but I'm kind of done with it. Again I love the idea of the system (portable console games!), I just think for me personally, I would love Nintendo to get a few more third party titles for me to play on the go, and keep a steady stream of new games coming out

Huh?

How much storage do you want? Flash is expensive
Joy con defect is not a decision lol
And I used kickstand with no problem...

There are some issues, not these ones..

 

[Huge Succeeded]

- PS2.
- PS3.
- PS4.
- Vita.
- SNES.
- GameCube.
- Xbox One.

And I'd say the

Spoiler

Vita

is the best of the bunch.

The Vita has a noticibly smaller screen than the Switch
The Vita has the infamous back touchpad to compensate for four missing buttons
The Vita's analog sticks have such small throw that they make the Joy-Con analogs seem Kontrol Freek'd in comparison
The Vita is a single player platform tied to one account; switching to another user for literally any purpose requires reatarting to factory settings, and also a spare memory card
The Vita launched with no onboard memory, its revision launched with 1gb, and its memory cards were extremely expensive
The Vita shared far fewer commonalities with its big brothers tech-wise than the Switch
The Vita's controls are inextricably tied to the system and cannot simply be replaced in the event of damage or wear
The Vita, when made to be docked, outputs at something like quarter HD (same res as the handheld screen) with no functional changes to any game - no local MP, much less with multiple users, no changes to visual fidelity - analagous to the PSP in funcion, but not Switch.

Vita 1000 has a very nice screen though, I guess. And that D Pad is great. I think Switch is easily the better designed of the two systems, though. Switch is versatile in ways that few previous platforms can claim.

At any rate, given that you exempt Switch from the running due to its launch issues, I really gotta wonder how you chose some of the systems you did as being better designed to begin with.

 

[Ninja Dom]

I feel like no one talks about this, but Jackbox Party Pack 3 on the Switch is amazing. I bring it to parties frequently. Screw two player Mario Kart on a tiny screen. Eight player hilarious party fun.

It's true, nobody talks about this. I'd never even heard of the series until I saw it on the Switch eShop.

What actually is it? Can it be played by multiple people in Tabletop mode?

 

[jhmostyn]

Really excited about getting my switch at some point (probably after a couple more AAA titles, and the WII/Gamecube ports/remasters to start ramping up), but, I'm surprised given Nintendos history on the DS there aren't already rumours of the New Switch XL, the Switchless Nano etc?

I absolutely trust Nintendo on software, but their history on revising mobile hardware repeatedly makes me think waiting might be prudent?

 

[D.Lo]

- PS2.
- PS3.

I mean ignoring the actual computing hardware, home consoles need less 'good designs' since all they really need to be is a relatively convenient box with TV out.

But PS2 is such a horrible console design. Two controller ports well after four player local multi had become standard elsewhere. Stupidly over engineered irregular design with those terrible little ridges all over it to collect dust and be hard to clean. A disc drive that is not only legendary for failing, but which sounded like a plane taking off when playing a game on CD format.

And PS3 was literally a laughing stock for its design for the first few years. George Forman Grill PS3, Fridge etc. It's actually pretty hard to have a really bad console design, but those two ticked quite a few boxes.

Your listed Switch issues like joycon desyncing and dock scratches are not design issues but launch hardware issues, and sillyness of non-core issues like joycon charging grip? And what you actually mean is UN-limited storage via cheap micro SD. Come on man.

 

[Dirtyshubb]

And PS3 was literally a laughing stock for its design for the first few years. George Forman Grill PS3, Fridge etc. It's actually pretty hard to have a really bad console design, but those two ticked quite a few boxes.

I wont hear a bad word said about the Fat PS3, that was a damn sexy machine and just looked like a beast

 

[Forkball]