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The Nintendo Switch has become the system people love to love

Yeah that was kinda the joke haha



I disagree with that. The Switch's screen really isn't that small when you hold it near your body, so I don't see why a game like CoD would be any worse on that than on a TV. And power-wise I think you're greatly underselling it- I still don't see any evidence that there's a single multiplat out there that can't be ported to the Switch. Those games (RDR2/GTA) may miss the system but that won't be due to power, rather publisher interest or target audience composition.

The bottom line is there are plenty of people in this very thread who have said they haven't touched their PS4 or XB1 more than once or twice since the Switch launched, and that's because it allows one to play games a lot more easily, quickly, and in a way that fits their lifestyle. I don't know why that type of benefit changes for different types of games.

Obviously different people will want different things out of their hardware, but this will definitely replace traditional consoles for some people. It already has, really.
disagreed here. Destiny 2 is being dropped from last gen systems for a reason, many of those games would have severe downgrades that might compromize the vision too much. I think you are overstating how powerful it is. I play Zelda everyday and then turn on something on PS4, it's a big difference.

that's what I love about my Switch, how different it is. But that's just my opinion, it doesn't really replace my PS4 time anymore than I'm just obsessed with the latest game (Zelda) once I finish it, I'll be back to obsessing over P5 or something cuz that's what I'm currently playing.

Switch has a lot of issues and is super barebones, I'm not going to rave about the hardware just yet, it's really the games that are amazing imo.
 

Jopie

Member
I went to a family party this weekend and at one point realized I was in a real life switch commercial.

When I first got there I was playing Fast RMX alone.

A cousin came over and I switched to table top mode and we played some Mario Kart.

More people got interested so I hooked the dock up to the TV and played 4 player Mario Kart.

A little later someone wanted to try Zelda. He played on the TV for a while and then switched back to handheld mode when everyone went outside to open gifts.

It was great.
 

jariw

Member
I can't find the official thread for the Switch event in January right now, but weren't GAF very negative towards the Switch after that event? Anyone have the link to that thread?
 
I can't find the official thread for the Switch event in January right now, but weren't GAF very negative towards the Switch after that event? Anyone have the link to that thread?
Yea the conference wasn't catered towards forum crowds and we already saw Zelda. Some didn't like the price and price point for accessories either.

TBH, I hate that I've already spent another $100 on controllers already just for what I consider a comfortable one. Besides the DOA comments, I think many people were justifiably underwhelmed.

I'm also not singing it's praises yet, I'm in love with Mario Kart and Zelda, not really the Switch. It's growing on me tho
 

LordRaptor

Member
That bundle doesn't take into consideration that these items have been cheaper separately.

Afterbirth+ had a launch discount for owners of previous DLC, and has never had a discount since.
It is also not available on any platforms except PC and Switch.
 
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I believe this preceded it:

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Not even close to the amount that ps4 provides. Lol even Destiny and tons of 3rd parties are exclusive to ps4/xb when compared to switch. It's a secondary console

PS4 has been out for like 4 years, Switch JUST launched. Switch will very likely have more exclusives then PS4 in the same timeframe, and higher rated, too. Just look at Wii U, and Wii U was an abysmal system. Now imagine this with the popularity of the Switch.

Dude you can't be serious. I'm done

He is serious, and right. You have no idea what you're talking about, so thanks for being done.
 

Plum

Member
I can't find the official thread for the Switch event in January right now, but weren't GAF very negative towards the Switch after that event? Anyone have the link to that thread?

The vast majority (me included) were very negative towards the Switch in January. In hindsight it was a perfect storm of false/untimely rumours creating heightened expectations, a very awkward and poorly-presented conference and a few less-than-positive surprises in paid online, the price, the launch lineup. Now that the thing's actually out and people have actually started playing those games that were "just ports" or "just indies" opinion has turned around quite drastically.
 

NOLA_Gaffer

Banned
I don't think you're going to see a whole lot of games release on all three platforms because it's the Wii all over again. Less power and a much different audience.
 

reKon

Banned
Hey I remember when there were GAFers (likely also huge Nintendo fans), who were saying it was stupid like people for me to wait for the Switch because the Wii U was so great.

Looks like the wait was worth it. Superior versions of Wii U games and it's a much better executed console.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I don't think you're going to see a whole lot of games release on all three platforms because it's the Wii all over again. Less power and a much different audience.

1- I'm not a tech guy at all, but I believe the overall tech gap between Switch<XB1/PS4 is less than Wii< PS360

2- Switch audience isn't being propelled by Wii Sports. I'm not claiming its full of FPS fans, but I think you can make an argument that the userbase isn't nearly as "casual" as Wii.
 

jts

...hate me...
I don't think you're going to see a whole lot of games release on all three platforms because it's the Wii all over again. Less power and a much different audience.
Unlike the Wii, the sales aren't remotely driven by Wii Sports or equivalent.

It is much, muuuuuuuuuuuch closer to the PS4/XB1 than Wii was to the PS3/360.

The Wii still got a slew of 3rd party games that other Nintendo consoles can only dream of. It would be a great scenario for the Switch.

edit:
1- I'm not a tech guy at all, but I believe the overall tech gap between Switch<XB1/PS4 is less than Wii< PS360

2- Switch audience isn't being propelled by Wii Sports. I'm not claiming its full of FPS fans, but I think you can make an argument that the userbase isn't nearly as "casual" as Wii.
Damn, said almost the same bit by bit :p
 

Jubenhimer

Member
I can't find the official thread for the Switch event in January right now, but weren't GAF very negative towards the Switch after that event? Anyone have the link to that thread?

I think they were just salty because they didn't get the hardcore mature power box they wanted when Nintendo showed the motion controlled 1-2 Switch and ARMS. There were legit reasons to not like the January event granted (Poor translation, some bad news in the form of paid online and small launch lineup), but most of the reactions were hyperbolic to say the least.
 
The vast majority (me included) were very negative towards the Switch in January. In hindsight it was a perfect storm of false/untimely rumours creating heightened expectations, a very awkward and poorly-presented conference and a few less-than-positive surprises in paid online, the price, the launch lineup. Now that the thing's actually out and people have actually started playing those games that were "just ports" or "just indies" opinion has turned around quite drastically.
Yep, spot on. The negativity was really overblown in hindsight.

I'm really enjoying all these positive articles and all this enthusiasm around Switch. Not used to this type of genuine excitement in gaming.
 
It's clear in my mind that Japan will adopt Switch faster than they have PS4, and that will result in plenty of 3DS-style exclusives for Switch.

Will it get many exclusives from the West? Indies aside, I doubt it will even get more than a few, if any. Western AAA developers are getting by just fine on PS4/Xbox One/Windows and don't really need the Switch. Why put forth more than a token effort if you're doing perfectly well as you are, possibly already maxing out your development resources as it is?

So again, I think Japan will dig it, but I don't see Switch getting anything more than some downscaled Western AAA third party titles over time, and a healthy indie scene.
 
This last week I played three player Mario Kart on a car ride with two friends that brought their own switches. I played battle mode online with a friend in split screen mode at a KFC. I played two player FAST RMX waiting for an improv show to start with another friend.

And I played a bunch of split screen Mario Kart with friends at home on my tv, and a bunch of stuff by myself.

Again, all anecdotal, but yeah. This has been my experience.
 
PS4 has been out for like 4 years, Switch JUST launched. Switch will very likely have more exclusives then PS4 in the same timeframe, and higher rated, too. Just look at Wii U, and Wii U was an abysmal system. Now imagine this with the popularity of the Switch.



He is serious, and right. You have no idea what you're talking about, so thanks for being done.
are you guys sure you're being accurate here though? Sony has a great support system from 3rd party and they get a lot of exclusives from Japan. Sony's first party is also fairly large.

Is there evidence that most third party publishes are to have a huge output on Switch now? What has been announced seem like Nintendo and Indy devs have been the bulk of software announcements. I can see it being comparable to PS4 in time, but I don't understand why you are saying it will have more exclusives soon, in another couple years, Ps5 will be out.

Then you guys are gonna start saying it doesn't count if it's on PC etc...just seems kinda warriorish. PS had a tone of games because it's market leader. I believe the same is true for 3DS. Everyone wants there games on the leading platform. I understand the talk of Switch and 3DS development merging, but we've yet to see what that means from a third party perspective. Seems very premature to say itll have the same game output as PS consoles. And even then, a silly thing to debate about.
 
Somehow basing this assessment to the anecdotal evidence from a gaming journalist's colleagues and immediate circle of friends seems like a very flawed way of making that assessment.

I actually like the article but I did laugh hat the picture he used is from one of his colleagues in the game industry
 
I love the darn thing.

Play it all the time with my kids and bring it to work while they are at school. My brother works with me and he's already put in 150+ hours on BOTW, collected all 120 Shrines, gotten almost all of the costumes (missing Dark Link outfit) and all of this while playing it at work. He will pick one up once they are easier to find but only downside is he's stuck playing BOTW on my Switch (until they allow to transfer save files). But he did say if he finds everything on mines, he plans another playthrough again and will do it on his once he gets it.
 
1- I'm not a tech guy at all, but I believe the overall tech gap between Switch<XB1/PS4 is less than Wii< PS360

2- Switch audience isn't being propelled by Wii Sports. I'm not claiming its full of FPS fans, but I think you can make an argument that the userbase isn't nearly as "casual" as Wii.

Even the Wii U had a much smaller overall gap between it and the PS4 than the Wii did with the PS3/360. The Switch actually even has some more modern features than the PS4 does, though obviously still overall less powerful. It's just not even close to the same situation as the Wii was, you can see that already with multiplats like Lego City.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
are you guys sure you're being accurate here though? Sony has a great support system from 3rd party and they get a lot of exclusives from Japan. Sony's first party is also fairly large.

Is there evidence that most third party publishes are to have a huge output on Switch now? What has been announced seem like Nintendo and Indy devs have been the bulk of software announcements. I can see it being comparable to PS4 in time, but I don't understand why you are saying it will have more exclusives soon, in another couple years, Ps5 will be out.

Then you guys are gonna start saying it doesn't count if it's on PC etc...just seems kinda warriorish. PS had a tone of games because it's market leader. I believe the same is true for 3DS. Everyone wants there games on the leading platform. I understand the talk of Switch and 3DS development merging, but we've yet to see what that means from a third party perspective. Seems very premature to say itll have the same game output as PS consoles. And even then, a silly thing to debate about.
Due to the switch I don't see the ps4 getting very many Japanese exclusives from here on out, especially since the ps4 mostly shared its exclusives with vita
 

lucius

Member
Still needs games, I will definitely buy one before Scorpio, their paid online better have at least one free Virtual Console game a month or no chance I will pay for something they never proven to they can do well.
 
are you guys sure you're being accurate here though? Sony has a great support system from 3rd party and they get a lot of exclusives from Japan. Sony's first party is also fairly large.

Is there evidence that most third party publishes are to have a huge output on Switch now? What has been announced seem like Nintendo and Indy devs have been the bulk of software announcements. I can see it being comparable to PS4 in time, but I don't understand why you are saying it will have more exclusives soon, in another couple years, Ps5 will be out.

He was talking about PS4 having more exclusives than Switch, not third party. That was the premise, and the Switch just launched.

Nintendo also has a bigger 1st party than Sony, by far. They rely on it to sell their systems, unlike Sony which biggest games are all third parties.

PS5 also won't likely have exclusive games as there is a high probability all games will be playable on the PS4, as well, much like Scorpio, so I don't understand what PS5 has to do with anything.

Lastly, Switch will be HUGE in Japan, bigger than PS4. Expect lots of Japanese exclusives.
 
Due to the switch I don't see the ps4 getting very many Japanese exclusives from here on out, especially since the ps4 mostly shared its exclusives with vita
yeah that makes sense, but the guy I was quoting was saying it's going to have more exclusives soon?? Like Ps output is just going to fall off a cliff or something. Doesn't make much sense to me
 

Buggy Loop

Member
I don't even understand the anime girl Vita or Switch meme. Can anyone explain?

"So you bought a Switch" Yuuup..

What's the funny? Is it some obscur anime series that makes it funny?
 
yeah that makes sense, but the guy I was quoting was saying it's going to have more exclusives soon?? Like Ps output is just going to fall off a cliff or something. Doesn't make much sense to me

I don't know about "soon" but over their respective lifetimes the Switch will undoubtedly have more exclusives. Nintendo publishes something like 15-20 titles a year, if all of those come to the Switch for the next 5-6 years then it'll be no contest.
 

wildfire

Banned
Neogaf laughed at me when I said this system would change the way we play games. That the switch is the future of gaming. In time I will eventually be proven right.

I strongly suspect Nintendo will become the main driving force behind cheap VR.

I'm hoping their 2nd attempt is called Switch Reality instead of Switch U.
 
I don't even understand the anime girl Vita or Switch meme. Can anyone explain?

"So you bought a Switch" Yuuup..

What's the funny? Is it some obscur anime series that makes it funny?
Well, it's mostly just a harmless running gag some people enjoy. There's nothing to it that makes it hilarious apart from endless repetition.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
I don't even understand the anime girl Vita or Switch meme. Can anyone explain?

"So you bought a Switch" Yuuup..

What's the funny? Is it some obscur anime series that makes it funny?

In regards to the Vita, the Vita is well known for it's niche "moe" and lolicon Japanese games. Hence why the it's a dancing loli congratulating you. In regards to the switch it's a play on the switch being a successor to the vita.
 

Head.spawn

Junior Member
Still needs games, I will definitely buy one before Scorpio, their paid online better have at least one free Virtual Console game a month or no chance I will pay for something they never proven to they can do well.

Thats a pretty low bar considering they announced that already, lol.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
In regards to the Vita, the Vita is well known for it's niche "moe" and lolicon Japanese games. Hence why the it's a dancing loli. In regards to the switch it's a play on the switch being a successor to the vita.

Alright, thanks for the explanation.
 

JoeBoy101

Member
To echo some responses, I'm enjoying taking my Switch to work for lunch hour, knocking out a grand prix in MK or a few levels of Isaac.

Last console I owned was the 360 and I had gotten real tired of it towards the end. I love my PC gaming and just became resigned that would be where I spent my time. Now that holds true still, but the Switch gets a good amount of use from me because I can take it on the go, but also play on the big screen if I'm in the mood. That flexibility is its biggest selling point because its not a niche device. Its a device that targets multiple niches with its flexibility. Do a lot of social events, it can do local MP easily. Primarily game on your big TV, it can game on the move. Do PC Gaming, this can give you console gaming with portability. You can compare it to multiple situations and it will have a strong selling point that promotes it.

Lastly, I just have to say, this thing is a dream to use when booting up or powering off. I'm in game within 10 seconds and have shutdown in about the same. That literal ease of entry makes it so much more accessible and attractive.
 
I don't even understand the anime girl Vita or Switch meme. Can anyone explain?

"So you bought a Switch" Yuuup..

What's the funny? Is it some obscur anime series that makes it funny?

Vita was the home of all the niche japanese games, visual novels, ecchi, etc.

Without a Vita successor on the sight people wonders where all those precious japanese games will land? The Switch is the answer. The GIF started to spread with the NIS thread where they said they would start developing their portable games on Switch and that Disgaea 5 was the first step.
 
yeah that makes sense, but the guy I was quoting was saying it's going to have more exclusives soon?? Like Ps output is just going to fall off a cliff or something. Doesn't make much sense to me

If I'm the "guy" you're referring to, that's not what I was saying, at ALL.
 
Dude you can't be serious. I'm done

The PS4 had absolutely fuck all worthwile exclusives before Bloodborne released literally 1.5 years after launch.

So yes, Switch will probably beat the PS4 handily in a similar timeframe (1.5 after lauch).as far as exclusives go.
 

PSFan

Member
I don't even understand the anime girl Vita or Switch meme. Can anyone explain?

"So you bought a Switch" Yuuup..

What's the funny? Is it some obscur anime series that makes it funny?

It's because a lot of games on the Vita feature anime girls like the one in the GIF. Nintendo fans stole it for the Switch.
 
He was talking about PS4 having more exclusives than Switch, not third party. That was the premise, and the Switch just launched.

Nintendo also has a bigger 1st party than Sony, by far. They rely on it to sell their systems, unlike Sony which biggest games are all third parties.

PS5 also won't likely have exclusive games as there is a high probability all games will be playable on the PS4, as well, much like Scorpio, so I don't understand what PS5 has to do with anything.

Lastly, Switch will be HUGE in Japan, bigger than PS4. Expect lots of Japanese exclusives.
ok...I see what your saying. Still a lot of speculation though...Cerny himself stated he still thinks new gens are great. We still need to wait and see what the big three are doing.
 

Passose

Banned
It's because a lot of games on the Vita feature anime girls like the one in the GIF. Nintendo fans stole it for the Switch.
pretty sure those anime games will be on the switch also, that gif will be accurate in the future lol
 
yeah that makes sense, but the guy I was quoting was saying it's going to have more exclusives soon?? Like Ps output is just going to fall off a cliff or something. Doesn't make much sense to me

The wording was "over the same timeframe".

So PS4 is three and a bit years old. By the time the Switch has been out on the market for that length of time, it will have more exclusives. Nintendo's own output - all internal teams are solely developing for Switch - will see to that by itself.

And there's nothing "warrior-ish" about saying a console exclusive isn't an exclusive. Because it isn't.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
It's because a lot of games on the Vita feature anime girls like the one in the GIF. Nintendo fans stole it for the Switch.

Stole... hahaha. It's a gif used to mock the switch as much as anything else as the vita is a viewed as the dead niche lolicon game machine was mocked relentlessly for it.

It's why the Vita 2 is a doubled compliment and was until the switch had a decent launch.
 
LOL, okay. Your definition of insane seems insane. "Tons" of software does not mean there's much worth purchasing. Especially when I already own and play Zelda on another system, and have access to Mario Kart 8 as well... the two best rated titles on the platform

EDIT: I should also add that I own an Xbox One and PS4 as well. What announced exclusives are even coming out for this thing in the future? I feel it's likely I'll skip this gen, like I wish I had with the Wii.


I also own an xb1 and ps4 and other then Destiny 2 and RDR2, I am looking forward to what Nintendo has coming out.

ARMS, Splatoon 2, Mario Oddessey, Xenogears 2 combined with BOTW and MK8D I would say that's a pretty damn good combination of exclusives for a system that won't even be out for a year when all those are released. I would actually say that would be one of the best first years for a system in a long time.
 
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