NOLA_Gaffer
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How dare you try to poke holes in his flawless logic!
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The Nintendo Switch has become the system people love to love
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How dare you try to poke holes in his flawless logic!
LordRaptor
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(un?)Fortunately a mod on this very site made a browser plugin that gives fast access to historical Steam pricing information
Majima Everywhere System
Member
I am happy for all of you and proud of what you've done to change the conversation about Nintendo's products.
Switch truly is Jesus. It cures cripples and beggars, hallelujah!
And it's not just a 3DS successor as you can see with how it acts as a home console due to its hybrid nature. There's nothing to disprove there.
Regarding Kimishima, do you not understand that it is no longer just doing what Iwata said. It is now going to be a new revenue stream for Nintendo, yes, Kimishima is still following Iwata's goals but Iwata's goals didn't include mobile becoming a new revenue stream for Nintendo.
Omnistalgic
Member
You talking crazy...
Movies didn't go out of business because of DVD players man. I love my Switch too, but when I'm in the mood for some Horizon and Uncharted or Gran Turismo, I want to play on a big sceeen and be wowed by the visual display.
I don't know why something can't just be good without trying to crap on or water down something else.
Ironically enough, I played a bit of BOI on PS4 or Vita I think. Not really my cup of tea =/. I'm very selective about which roguelikes I'll play.
I completely forgot about Shovel Knight! Need to check that out this summer.
lmao that's quite the story.
archreaper93
Member
Not gonna lie, as much as I want Nioh and Bloodborne, Puyo Puyo, Mario Kart, and Bomberman are kinda tempting me to hold off on getting a PS4 and get the Switch now instead. I'm thinking about waiting until E3 to decide what I get.
Plenty of games on other systems to play in the meantime.
Plenty of games on other systems to play in the meantime.
That's something they managed with the Wii too(to the expense of my eyes, it really hurt to have SD games in the age of HD). The Switch is different though, technology came a long way and it can deliver great performance in its very small form factor.
Liliana Eileen
Member
How is that sad?
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Nice.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
I've got 16 hours of train rides coming up. Feels great to have full console Mario Kart, Zelda and indie games on the go.
My battery banks are charged!!
Skittzo0413
Member
I don't think high end graphics will go away but his Netflix comparison actually has some merit. A large majority of people will choose convenience over visual quality, and Netflix actually demonstrates this to an extent. That doesn't mean blu-ray players and imaxes will go away, but Netflix was able to convert a large portion of the physical market to streaming, and Nintendo is looking to do the same with the Switch- convert some of the traditional console market to their hybrid ecosystem. And this doesn't mean there won't be a place for 4k consoles, just that there will also be a place for lower end visuals as well.
Well to be fair Mario Kart is an essentially re-released super GOTY version with all those extras and those two are significantly better than anything else in the line up that Nintendo has. If this is best ever made to you, then I can't imagine what you would think of a Mario Kart that combines the custom design features from Mario Maker. We've already seen this in Mod Nation Racers and the results were excellent - some of the most fun tracks I've ever competed against someone online on were made by our own Gafers.
With that said, I'm just waiting for the deluxe verison of Smash Bros along with Mario Odyssey. I'll have no issue buying all 4 around the same time... Lol. Gaming is excellent right now.
The Horror the horror
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That's been Nintendo's philosophy going all the way back to Gunpei Yokoi.
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The fact it's a hybrid means that it's a portable device (a 3DS successor like you yourself admit) means that portable software still exists and mobile doesn't replace it. I'm still not sure where on Earth you got that idea. Kimishima has made his plans in regards to mobile explicitly clear.
Kimishima said:
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2016/161027_2e.pdf
It literally could not be more explicit.
Skittzo0413
Member
Yeah but this time it might work (again).
Yet when the numbers show how sold out the device is, someone on Neogaf will point out they don't know anyone with a Switch.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
This article kind of reads like an ad.
That bundle doesn't take into consideration that these items have been cheaper separately.
Not $5 cheap obviously, but bleh.
That bundle doesn't take into consideration that these items have been cheaper separately.
Not $5 cheap obviously, but bleh.
foxuzamaki
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3Rd thread where people get exposed about the switch
The Horror the horror
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It's worked more times than not.
Omnistalgic
Member
i don't disagree with the Netflix analogy at all. It was about the "choose anything over PC/PS4/X1 comment"
There are entire genres that just don't work on Switch's small screen and modest specs on the go. Playing twitch shooters like COD or a Sim like Forza or GT for example would be subpar at best in mobile mode and Switch is not powerful enough to make it worthwhile at home even for Sims. And then there's breakout games that will likely skip Switch because they are simply doing too advanced techniques with the engine like Read Dead or the next GTA.
Like I said, I love it, but it's a different kind of experience than when I'm on my PS4, it doesn't replace any of that for me, and I would imagine for many other gamers.
Naked Snake
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The Switch is my favorite Nintendo console hardware wise. And I'm hoping it ends up becoming my favorite console in terms of games library... that will be a tall order, but it launched with one of the best games ever, the sales are going great, and if Nintendo and third partied delivers the content over the coming months and years, it's going to be glorious.
AndrewDean84xX
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It's a great feeling to turn the Switch on and having to make a decision to play Mario Kart 8, Snake Pass or Shovel Knight. (Taking a break from Zelda until DLC)
The Switch is the definition of a gaming game changer.
The Switch is the definition of a gaming game changer.
CharminUltra
Member
I know that feel. Been around since the Atari/NES/SMS days myself.
Again, I never said mobile was going to replace their handhelds. I said they never came up with a 3DS successor that would be more successful than 3DS because of mobile.
You can't bring up Switch about that because this was to do with you saying that Nintendo would have been just fine with a Nintendo Vita.
After going off into other directions of the topic, you still couldn't give a good argument for why Nintendo would have been just fine with a Nintendo Vita as opposed to seeing it hit more of a decline due to Smartphones.
I'm 41 and the only system other system I liked this much right off the bat was the Dreamcast. And I'm loving the switch more than that.
CharminUltra
Member
MNR is kinda like LBP for me. I had more fun designing levels in those games than actually playing them. The gameplay itself is rather lackluster.
Skittzo0413
Member
Yeah that was kinda the joke haha
I disagree with that. The Switch's screen really isn't that small when you hold it near your body, so I don't see why a game like CoD would be any worse on that than on a TV. And power-wise I think you're greatly underselling it- I still don't see any evidence that there's a single multiplat out there that can't be ported to the Switch. Those games (RDR2/GTA) may miss the system but that won't be due to power, rather publisher interest or target audience composition.
The bottom line is there are plenty of people in this very thread who have said they haven't touched their PS4 or XB1 more than once or twice since the Switch launched, and that's because it allows one to play games a lot more easily, quickly, and in a way that fits their lifestyle. I don't know why that type of benefit changes for different types of games.
Obviously different people will want different things out of their hardware, but this will definitely replace traditional consoles for some people. It already has, really.
AndrewDean84xX
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Same. The dreamcast and Switch both had me hyped both pre and post launch. The dreamcast will always hold a special place in my heart.
CrunchyFrog
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That's one thing I never thought about. Because it's got games that are both portable and inherently multiplayer with the joycons, you really can play with strangers anywhere you go. Sitting on a bus ride and the guy next to you is visibly interested in your game of mk8? hand em an joycon and get to it. Huh
Omnistalgic
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I think I'm in love with the games more than the system. I don't like the fact that I've had to pay so much for a comfortable controller experience. (Pro is the only way, tried to everything else and only can use joy cons for simple games like MARIO Kart or Snipper clips)
Also some games I really don't like on this screen, I want a Switch the size of an IPad mini maybe or even slightly bigger? Stuff like Mario Kart is fine, but I just want to play Zelda at home mostly.
Also some games I really don't like on this screen, I want a Switch the size of an IPad mini maybe or even slightly bigger? Stuff like Mario Kart is fine, but I just want to play Zelda at home mostly.
There is some weird nintendo nostalgia love going around atm. The same games that are on multiple consoles people overlook it but if it's on the switch then now it's appealing lol. I'm seeing this on here and from a few of my friends. I'm getting the switch as a secondary console to my ps4 though. But the ps4 will always be primary I mean it has a lot of games and exclusives and will continue to
| Praxis |
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I like everything about the console except the atrocious WiFi.
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You fundamentally misunderstood the argument. The Nintendo vita examples serves to explain that Vita under Nintendo branding would be a success much like the 3DS would be a success. I wasn't talking about a Nintendo vita being as successful as they wanted the 3DS to be just that it would be comparable successful to what the 3DS currently is. The switch was created to Consolidate Nintendo's hardware losses last gen and simultaneously appeal to two markets that have very different wants (Japan handhelds, US/Europe hardware).
digita1alchemy
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The Switch is my favorite game console ever, as far as hardware is concerned. Now the library just needs to come along, which I have no doubts it will if they can continue driving that install base.
How you know you've got something hot when you don't need to pay people to shill for you.
Liliana Eileen
Member
And the Switch will eventually have lots of exclusives once it's on the market for that long, too. I don't get your point.
True I hope they can somehow fix that.
Jaded Alyx
Member
So you freely admit you have no idea what the lineup is but have no issue claiming there's no games and the future software lineup looks bleak?
Not even close to the amount that ps4 provides. Lol even Destiny and tons of 3rd parties are exclusive to ps4/xb when compared to switch. It's a secondary console
privitsan02
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Tbh I felt the same way with many games on Nintendo consoles and hoping they were on more powerful machines like the PS4 or PC. So I know where you're coming from. Can't wait to try Zelda once Cemu is stable.
Best wishes.
I wouldn't call the 3DS a success in the same way I wouldn't call the PS3 a success.
They both caused financial losses due to their hardware design which for Nintendo included having to do a huge price cut after launch and making numerous revisions in quick succession to make the hardware profitable.
That's why I found it problematic with your original post that you said Nintendo could do the same price cut with the Nintendo Vita as they did with the 3DS if things were dire.
I wouldn't be calling a Nintendo Vita a success if it did that again.
Herb Alpert
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Hey nice!
I didn't read, has the thread already turn to shit or not yet?
Edit: Ho. Like clockwork
I didn't read, has the thread already turn to shit or not yet?
Edit: Ho. Like clockwork
You understand the killer potential that Mario Kart has going forward then, right? MK8 is great, but the series can definitely go higher. What I loved about MNR was the risk and reward aspect of the gameplay, similar to how Diddy Kong Racers and Lego Racers were set up. MK8 doesn't have to adopt all of that that, but the level design features would be huge. From a business perspective they would be able to sell their addition DLC this way too and it this would give them an incentive to significantly improve their online infrastructure. This was the main strength of MNR and not so much the local multiplayer. I hope that they're already working on the next version of MK. Imagine being able to design an entire track in 45 mins in a car ride and be playing it at home on your big screen with others.
Jaded Alyx
Member
PS4/XB is one platform now? Do people really think like this? I mean I see it all the time here on GAF and I could never understand it.
Also I highly doubt the PS4 will have more exclusives than the Switch over a similar timeframe. Just look at the 3DS (and even Wii U). And no, "console exclusive" doesn't count.
It is cool that the Switch lends itself so well to impromptu gaming sessions, I've done that myself for Mario Kart lunch breaks. But, I think it's pretty dependent on the game. I was at an event where 1-2 Switch came out, and it didn't last long. It wasn't just that it was embarrassing (which it kind of was), but most of the games just were not good, and everybody realized that. I'm hoping they can try that scenario again with Mario Party or WarioWare, but until then Mario Kart, Jack Box, Snipperclips, and Bomberman will have to suffice.
Dude you can't be serious. I'm done