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Oh I remember that one from months ago.
Wow, I missed that then. Balls, I thought I'd managed to silently keep up with all the crazy.
Oh I remember that one from months ago.
I just read a rumour (possibly the most ridiculous one so far) that people who have registered a Wii U and 10 specific but unconfirmed games get 90% off the NX at launch.
I mean, it's plausible up until the 90% part.
"No NX reveal this week."
"I respectfully disagree."
Maybe Emily never said there would be a reveal this week, but that response tweet implied it. And I think vagueness is one of the huge problems a lot of people have with Emily.
Never forget this day, our rugby ball never scored..
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The Wii U had 10 games?I just read a rumour (possibly the most ridiculous one so far) that people who have registered a Wii U and 10 specific but unconfirmed games get 90% off the NX at launch.
I mean, it's plausible up until the 90% part.
Thanks for contributing to actual, interesting discussion! I love semiconductor fab talk, I actually understand it at basic levels!
A few questions:
The 16FFC process results in the same product, it's just a different process for fabricating it, right? So essentially the same as they would have with FF or FF+, but slightly cheaper?
I'm confused about what you're saying when you say it's already been used in shipping products but you don't think Nintendo could get any final samples for third party devkits. I guess you mean that Nintendo would have had to compete with Apple to even get a reasonable amount of samples for devkits?
This could be a reason why Emily Rogers is still adamant about active cooling, if final devkits still aren't ready. (Wait, that wasn't a question)
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@Mpl90 @InadaCelstice I still expect an announcement of some capacity this week. If nothing happens...I'll be surprised.
Oct 19, 2016, 8:35 AM
See?Ok guys we have a new tweet from Nate Drake
A bit out of the loop here - why is everyone melting down? Is it because that Emily lady was wrong about something again? She seems to be a real insider, but it would probably do her better to not leak info anymore. People just attack her.
Not quite. A chip fabricated on 16FFC will be smaller and consume a little bit less power than one fabricated on 16FF+. As an example, Chipworks estimates that the A10 would have been ~150mm² on 16FF+, whereas it's 125mm² on 16FFC.
It's not so much about wafer capacity (a few test wafers are a drop in the ocean compared to A10 production), but rather about it being a new process that neither Nvidia nor Nintendo have previously taped out a chip on. Learning to work around the kinks of the process can take more time, meaning the test wafers they have been producing have fewer good dies. The top priority of these is always going to be internal use (not just for dev kits but also things like power/thermal testing, which can require a large number of dies to get a good sample size), and it's only once they have all their internal needs covered that they'll start using engineering samples for third party dev kits. On a more mature process they would have been expected to reach high yields on test wafers much quicker, and hence have plenty of good engineering samples available for third party dev kit use.
Yes, what we've heard about active cooling would definitely lead me to believe that they're still using TX1s in dev hardware (as I don't believe the final product will be actively cooled). If a large number of third parties had final hardware by this stage I'd have also expected some kind of leaks regarding it, but we haven't heard any.
Never forget this day, our rugby ball never scored..
and the Nintendo Ninjas are so happy in their secret "hole"
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Exactly. People just chill man. We have two more days. Drake is saying he would be surprised if there was noSee?
Calm down. Wait till Friday. Then yell at him.
The Mother 3 thing is a little more complicated than Eurogamer just jumping on what she said.If I remember correctly, the Eurogamer article that said NX was going to be a hybrid went up shortly after she said that it was going to be one (like the day after or later that day). I think she said something before Eurogamer with Mother 3 too. Whether either of these are actually true remains to be seen though.
Boy = Nintendo
Ball = NX Reveal
Monkeys = Leakers
Emily Rogers = Emily Rogers
Because they're going to get exposed 😬Why are the leakers excited about the NX Reveal being kicked away?
Why are the leakers excited about the NX Reveal being kicked away?
Ok guys we have a new tweet from Nate Drake
See?
Calm down. Wait till Friday. Then yell at him.
Well, specifics are hard to come by when working with things you hear about through a grapevine from people behind NDAs. Her bullet list of hardware specs will make for an interesting comparison to the final product. She clearly thought there would be major news this week, but her confidence level went down overnight. Shit happens. Life goes on. It's pretty dishonest to call her deceptive, because she clearly believes what she is saying and then backtracked in response to new information. That's just human. She isn't responsible for the hype train of delusional expectations people create for themselves based on her attempts to get what she's hearing out there.
Ok guys we have a new tweet from Nate Drake
See?
Calm down. Wait till Friday. Then yell at him.
Ok guys we have a new tweet from Nate Drake
Is a delay is unthinkable right now?
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I hate to use the "cringe worthy" card, but man... you guys are pushing it too hard
Most recent example is Star Fox Zero, where leaks pinned them as panicking over the controls because they knew it was going to get slagged over them but it was far too late to change things.
Also recent was Devil's Third, which, even if the XSEED thing didn't pan out, we still had info coming out about them struggling to figure out what to do with the game.
"No NX reveal this week."
"I respectfully disagree."
Maybe Emily never said there would be a reveal this week, but that response tweet implied it. And I think vagueness is one of the huge problems a lot of people have with Emily.
Really Nintendo?Ok I'm going to sleep now.
When I wake up I expect to see the announcement of the Direct. Nintendo please lets just get this over with already.
Respectfully, my dear, I don't give my agreement.Ok guys we have a new tweet from Nate Drake
Nintendo is doing us all a favor. The closer to release date we learn about NX, the less time we have to wait from reveal to release. If you think your hype is high now, imagine the dizzying altitudes it will reach if they announce a game or system you want badly.
Really Nintendo?
Really?
Your really doing this?
All I ask is a simple reveal of a huge investment of $200-$300 system to be shown a bit more than FIVE FUCKING MONTHS BEFORE ITS RELEASED.
I need to plan my fucking spending schedule, but no, you can't even give me that. You have to be so fucking mean to me about me wanting to know what I'll be spending five months ahead of time.
I mean, what went wrong? I have supported you all my life. I have loved and cherished you, and when I like to plan exactly what I'm buying a year ahead, you can't even do that FIVE FUCKNG MONTHS AHEAD? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??
Well this is it. All games I was gonna get paid off. Now I save. Save and sacrifice so many games I'll miss for a imaginary system that supposedly exists, yet theres no evidence of it existing. I will still believe in you even if it costs me Persona 5.
So now Nntendo, faith has evolved to full blind faith. So show it...please?
Love you, WiiRevolution1.
*Goes back to playing Splatoon.*
Serious question.
If everyone and anyone uses that excuse that info and plans always change, then who can ever be held accountable? That's a pretty dangerous system. No one's ever wrong then.
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Any little small reveal or PR for NX would be nice this week. I want to see Emily get it right so she can stop getting attacked.
Let's see if she gets any updates today.
Serious question.
If everyone and anyone uses that excuse that info and plans always change, then who can ever be held accountable? That's a pretty dangerous system. No one's ever wrong then.
Really Nintendo?
Really?
Your really doing this?
All I ask is a simple reveal of a huge investment of $200-$300 system to be shown a bit more than FIVE FUCKING MONTHS BEFORE ITS RELEASED.
I need to plan my fucking spending schedule, but no, you can't even give me that. You have to be so fucking mean to me about me wanting to know what I'll be spending five months ahead of time.
I mean, what went wrong? I have supported you all my life. I have loved and cherished you, and when I like to plan exactly what I'm buying a year ahead, you can't even do that FIVE FUCKNG MONTHS AHEAD? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??
Well this is it. All games I was gonna get paid off. Now I save. Save and sacrifice so many games I'll miss for a imaginary system that supposedly exists, yet theres no evidence of it existing. I will still believe in you even if it costs me Persona 5.
So now Nintendo, faith has evolved to full blind faith. So show it...please?
Love you, WiiRevolution1.
*Goes back to playing Splatoon.*
Really Nintendo?
Really?
Your really doing this?
All I ask is a simple reveal of a huge investment of $200-$300 system to be shown a bit more than FIVE FUCKING MONTHS BEFORE ITS RELEASED.
I need to plan my fucking spending schedule, but no, you can't even give me that. You have to be so fucking mean to me about me wanting to know what I'll be spending five months ahead of time.
I mean, what went wrong? I have supported you all my life. I have loved and cherished you, and when I like to plan exactly what I'm buying a year ahead, you can't even do that FIVE FUCKNG MONTHS AHEAD? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??
Well this is it. All games I was gonna get paid off. Now I save. Save and sacrifice so many games I'll miss for a imaginary system that supposedly exists, yet theres no evidence of it existing. I will still believe in you even if it costs me Persona 5.
So now Nintendo, faith has evolved to full blind faith. So show it...please?
Love you, WiiRevolution1.
*Goes back to playing Splatoon.*
Really Nintendo?
Really?
Your really doing this?
All I ask is a simple reveal of a huge investment of $200-$300 system to be shown a bit more than FIVE FUCKING MONTHS BEFORE ITS RELEASED.
I need to plan my fucking spending schedule, but no, you can't even give me that. You have to be so fucking mean to me about me wanting to know what I'll be spending five months ahead of time.
I mean, what went wrong? I have supported you all my life. I have loved and cherished you, and when I like to plan exactly what I'm buying a year ahead, you can't even do that FIVE FUCKNG MONTHS AHEAD? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??
Well this is it. All games I was gonna get paid off. Now I save. Save and sacrifice so many games I'll miss for a imaginary system that supposedly exists, yet theres no evidence of it existing. I will still believe in you even if it costs me Persona 5.
So now Nintendo, faith has evolved to full blind faith. So show it...please?
Love you, WiiRevolution1.
*Goes back to playing Splatoon.*
why would you do that though? you only lose precious brain cells by reading through whole neogaf threadsIt's 4 am and I've finally reached the last (current) post of page 102 and my eyes are burnt.
I can't believe I've read through everything for hours. I hope I don't have nightmares.
Goodnight (or morning, or evening).
EDIT: And it's page 103. Ugghh..