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The Office: Final Season |OT| It's better to burn out than it is to rust
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i really hope the show ends with andy sitting in his office alone, looking out at everyone and realizing he has no friends. then he opens up a drawer of his desk and starts to organize some files. a tear drop falls and stains a memo from wallace commenting on re"dundee"ncies.
andy notices that the base of the drawer is removable. inside this hidden compartment is a revolver labeled "IN CASE OF EMERGENCY - PROPERTY OF THE MICHAEL SCOTT PAPER COMPANY"
andy raises the gun to his throat, looks at erin, and squeezes the trigger
andy notices that the base of the drawer is removable. inside this hidden compartment is a revolver labeled "IN CASE OF EMERGENCY - PROPERTY OF THE MICHAEL SCOTT PAPER COMPANY"
andy raises the gun to his throat, looks at erin, and squeezes the trigger
brianmcdoogle
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The opening with Dwight and fake Jim was phenomenal. I don't know if they've done anything better in the last couple of seasons. The episode itself wasn't bad, either.
However, I still can't figure out the new characters. They aren't really funny or interesting, but maybe that will change? But, who cares when the series ends in 20 episodes? It just seems kind of pointless since they already have a big cast, and it should be their sendoff with little time left.
Also, I guess the lady who tried to seduce Jim is gone with no notice, like that stupid sideplot.
I liked the family tree stuff (but did they have to do the explicit Nazi reference? I liked it earlier in the series where they just said that parts of his family had to flee to Argentina in the 40s or something).
So now they've completely changed Nellie's character, like they've done with Andy twice. She's still an unlikable and empty character.
Question: When they change Andy's character for the 3rd time, will he go back to his second version as the meek dolt, or will it be another new Andy?
However, I still can't figure out the new characters. They aren't really funny or interesting, but maybe that will change? But, who cares when the series ends in 20 episodes? It just seems kind of pointless since they already have a big cast, and it should be their sendoff with little time left.
Also, I guess the lady who tried to seduce Jim is gone with no notice, like that stupid sideplot.
I liked the family tree stuff (but did they have to do the explicit Nazi reference? I liked it earlier in the series where they just said that parts of his family had to flee to Argentina in the 40s or something).
So now they've completely changed Nellie's character, like they've done with Andy twice. She's still an unlikable and empty character.
Question: When they change Andy's character for the 3rd time, will he go back to his second version as the meek dolt, or will it be another new Andy?
I'm tying to remember who you're referring to, and it sounds familiar, but I just can't remember? What was this plot point from?
brianmcdoogle
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Remember the lady that tried to seduce Jim in Florida for like 3 episodes, and then nothing happened and there were no consequences and then she disappeared and then it was never mentioned again?
And, just for reference, I had the same issue with the exploding printers. Did anything ever come of that?
Oh yeah, I remember now. Season 8 was filled with plot points that led absolutely nowhere. One of the worst seasons of a show I've ever seen. Which was disappointing, since The Office is my favorite show (well, season 1, 2, 3, and 4 [pre-writers strike episodes]).
brianmcdoogle
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What's kind of the dividing line for season 4 with the writers strike? Is it Dinner Party?
Dinner Party was the first episode when the came back.
I'm okay with it. Reminds me of Jim and Pam from the first 2 seasons, complete with douchebag boyfriend/fiancé Andy.
The girl who tried to seduce Jim was temping for Pam, so she wasn't going to be around long anyway. What was the point behind testing Jim's commitment? Did anybody ever believe for a second that he might cheat on Pam? I didn't.
And they insinuated that a romance between Andy and Robert California's wife might take place and then it never happened. Then they brought in some other pointless love interest for Andy that went nowhere and only served to further stall his relationship with Erin. Seemed like they were desperately trying to recreate what they did with Jim and Pam the first few seasons with Andy and Erin and it just flopped. The cast has always been great but the writing has just gone downhill.
And they insinuated that a romance between Andy and Robert California's wife might take place and then it never happened. Then they brought in some other pointless love interest for Andy that went nowhere and only served to further stall his relationship with Erin. Seemed like they were desperately trying to recreate what they did with Jim and Pam the first few seasons with Andy and Erin and it just flopped. The cast has always been great but the writing has just gone downhill.
brianmcdoogle
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Which makes no sense if they then try to make Andy like roy and erin/newguy be jim/pam like the poster above you just suggested. or, just try to shoehorn in needless drama like the stupid thought that jim would cheat on pam. and now he's restless. not a year ago when some cute girl was trying to hook up on him, but now.
PeakPointMatrix
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Dinner Party is one of my favorite episodes, but I know a lot of people hold seething hatred for that particular ep.
Please no, they can't. After going so far to set up Andy and Erin as the perfect match for eachother, bland mr. whoever the fuck is supposed to steal her heart away now? Unless they set up Andy to have become a totally different (worse) person by the end of the season, totally unfit to date Erin, I'm not buying it.
On the newest episode, we again had some classic-era humor and drama revolving around the Jim and Pam plot, surprisingly great. Adding Darrel to the fray definitely made things more interesting. Once again Nellie is set up for a completely different purpose from the last episode. Should we hate her? Do they hate her? Should we pity her? Are they bonding? Is she not an idiot? She's like a 20-sided die everytime she appears. My biggest laugh came from the opening, once again we're getting classic-tier materiel seeping through here and there. The previous season has been completely obliterated already. Not that it took much.
Killing_Joke
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Definitely my top 5. Haters gonna hate.
You can tell the writers ran out of gas last season which is why they completely dropped every plot every 2 secs. They had good ideas but couldn't finish it, shit half the time they didn't even get it started. The biggest dropped ball was the scranton strangler. All the build up pointing to gabe and no fucking payoff. Angela's gay husband has been going on wayyyy too long as well.
Davey Cakes
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I liked this episode, as I've liked every ep this season so far. But yeah, the cold open was quite funny.
VGChampion
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You didn't like the hour-long episodes at the beginning of the season?
Those were some of my favorites.dead souls
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Agreed on Dinner Party. Season 4 was garbage overall. Those four hour-long episodes that started it were brutally awful. I remember being so disappointed at the time.
Killing_Joke
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Hate it all you want but seeing Michael so proud of his 5 inch plasma TV gets me every time.
Babe.
Babe.
vatstep
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I liked S4. I thought Dinner Party was great, as were all of the hour-long episodes. That was when the show was at its peak of popularity, and people I knew actually watched it — those episodes felt like events in a way, which was just kind of fun.
Back to the current season: I liked the premiere, but thought the last two episodes were pretty unremarkable. They weren't awful like so many from the last few seasons, but they weren't very good, either.
Back to the current season: I liked the premiere, but thought the last two episodes were pretty unremarkable. They weren't awful like so many from the last few seasons, but they weren't very good, either.
My favorite part about The Office is the HOURS of deleted scenes on every season dvd set. More than any show I've ever seen, and many are absolutely hilarious. The number of deleted scenes have dramatically dropped in the last few season dvds, though, and I haven't even bought the season 8 dvd (only one I haven't bought on day 1 since i started watching), but I heard there wasn't nearly as many as other the early seasons.
I usually just watch reruns on Netflix, but every once in a while I'll bust out one of my seasons on dvd and watch all of the deleted scenes. I've probably seen them as many times as the episodes themselves.
I usually just watch reruns on Netflix, but every once in a while I'll bust out one of my seasons on dvd and watch all of the deleted scenes. I've probably seen them as many times as the episodes themselves.
brianjones
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yeah i always watch the deleted scenes right after the episode.. theyre basically part of the episodes for me
That's a great line, but my favorite moment was just before that, with Michael yelling out in anger, "THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID" after Jan says "You're hardly my first." He was seething with such anger, yet he couldn't stop himself from making the joke. That gets me every time.
The hour-long episodes at the start of the seasonsave "Money"are a mess, and there's some duds in there, but "The Deposition" and "Dinner Party" are both excellent. You could see the seeds for the show's late season struggles in Season Four, but the episodes on either side of the strike got them headed in the right direction.
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The Real Abed
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Kind of glad. I hate when they try to make it seem like Jim is going to have to convince Pam that he'd never cheat. They've established that Pam knows Jim would never in a million years do something like that and she trusts he is smart enough to think his way out of situations like that. Still... Wasn't she one of the people Robert fired when they fucked up the store opening? (Which he had planned to fail anyway) Remember, Nelly was on the team as was Dwight, but Jim was able to get Dwight to stay out of the spotlight and Nelly weaselled her way off the team leaving whatever nobodies were left in its wake. She was one of them I believe. So she's gone. Kaput. Fired. Left in Florida to rot... or find another job I guess.
Jo explained it in the finale of that season that they knew about the problem and wanted to keep it a secret because they were already working on a software patch to keep the damage controlled, but Andy just had to bring it to the public. Would have been nice if Jo had let the employees in on the problem so they could, you know, handle the customer support end properly. It's really all Jo's fault. But I suspect it was just fixed with the patch like they said. Printergate probably lasted a short while just like the iPhone 4's Antennagate. It's how businesses work.
So yeah, software patch... to fix a problem with printers catching fire... makes sense. I guess. I don't know anything about how printers work so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
Basically, no plotholes. Both plots were resolved in their own ways.
I liked this weeks episode. Especially the prank at the start. IMHO one of Jim's best since season 3's Office Supply Vending Machine prank when he filled the machine with Dwight's supplies. Pam was adorable in that one when she put money in and got a pencil cup and said she'd always wanted one. Hope they keep the pranks up for the remainder of the season and end it properly. Though I'm still sad it won't end how I envisioned it back in season 2 with Dunder Mifflin going out of business at the end of season 7 and NOT getting bought and everyone going off in their own separate directions. But I look forward to seeing what they do come up with. It's been a while since I've watched a proper series finale where it was ended instead of cancelled. Seeing as HIMYM and Dexter (The other two shows I am eager to see how they end) don't look to be going anywhere soon. Nice to see one of them properly accept fate and end it while they can.
Why would she have been one of the ones fired, yet all of those others that were already employees at the office (Jim, Stanley, Ryan, Erin, etc) weren't? They didn't mention it. It only seemed that Robert was going to fire the lead people.
The Real Abed
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He only fired who he saw in front of him. Also, he's Robert California. We don't try and figure him out. Would you want to be within viewing range of your boss when he's angry as hell? No, you want to be off somewhere he can't find you in the moment waiting for the moment to pass. He made it quite clear that he set the whole thing up to fail. And only fired the people still up there to look big to the stockholders. I dunno, it was all explained in a way.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Lionel Mandrake
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They've clearly just started writing Andy as Michael now.
SlowRevolution
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oh god can this show just kill Andy off and put him out of his misery. they've destroyed his character so much
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mambadragon
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Yeah that started out of nowhere this season.
toddhunter
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You took me by the hand...
Hunter? (not watching yet.. pacific standard time over here).
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That was awful — worst of the season by far. Most of the characters have been unlikeable caricatures of themselves for a while now, but in this episode they seemingly all cranked it up to 11. Andy especially is just terrible.
The Creed bit was funny, though.
The Creed bit was funny, though.
Davey Cakes
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I liked it. Nothing special as a whole but had its moments. The Jim prank was another winner IMO.
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