The diference here in Mexico is around 700usd ouch. But the wheather seals are what is making my choice so hard cause i will be filming a lot of outdoor stuff in the junle, waterfalls and suff like that. Tomorrow is the day lol.
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There is a huge difference on how it feels on your hands as well. I was on the same spot last yr between the t2i or the 50D and once I felt them on my hands I went to the 50D in big part because it just felt more comfortable and had some weight to it.
phisheep
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Stick a (third party) battery grip on the bottom and it feels one whole lot better. It really does.
I see the Canon Rebel T2i is 589.00 which is 400 off, I was thinking about buying it as a starter camera, I'd like to start with a DSLR.
What are some other stuff I should buy? Memory card, bag, extra battery. Anything im missing?
I'm looking or a good DSLR that shoots 1080p 30 fps video and good photos.
Any extra lenses needed?
Thanks camera GAF.
What are some other stuff I should buy? Memory card, bag, extra battery. Anything im missing?
I'm looking or a good DSLR that shoots 1080p 30 fps video and good photos.
Any extra lenses needed?
Thanks camera GAF.
Meus Renaissance
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I see the Canon Rebel T2i is 589.00 which is 400 off, I was thinking about buying it as a starter camera, I'd like to start with a DSLR.
What are some other stuff I should buy? Memory card, bag, extra battery. Anything im missing?
I'm looking or a good DSLR that shoots 1080p 30 fps video and good photos.
Any extra lenses needed?
Thanks camera GAF.
If you want to record HD video, a class 10 memory card is recommended. In terms of lenses it all depends on what type of photos (landscape, portraits) you want and your budget.
You will need a tripod with a 'video head' however. Perhaps a shotgun mic as well because the built in mic isn't great
Snytbaggen
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I've been thinking of getting a polarization filter, but they're pretty expensive. However, I can get one from China for around $6 including shipping. I know the quality won't be great, but is it still worth getting just to try out and then buy a more expensive later on, or should I go for a better one directly?
Well $6 is nothing.
I had a couple Circular Polarizers. I ended up never used them. I think the reason is I can't left it on the lens all the time and sometimes the effect is not too pronounce. Another thing is that if your camera's sensor has decent dynamic range, you can just take the picture and do gradual mask with level on Photoshop. Plus you can control the angle. The only thing Cir. Polarizer has over post processing is that if the scene has wider dynamic range than the sensor, then the Polarizer will save you more detail, specially more clouds in the sky.
Take this photo for example. The sky in the original photo were all white out. I almost built the whole sky in Photoshop. It was taken with a P&S so I had no sensor latitude to work with.
I doubt Cir. Polarizer would help too much since the sky was too foggy.
You can also consider gradual color filter. Like these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/67mm-3-pcs-...ra_Filters&hash=item336f60e2b7#ht_3661wt_1002
I have seen people use these gradual color filters with great effect. They are very specialize. You only use them for certain weather conditions. For example, during dust or dawn. But when it work, it make the scene amazingly poetic. It's think the reason they work so well is that usually human eyes are so well trained with colors of the light sources you can take a took a the sky and guess the time of the day or take a look at the wall and guess the brightness of the indoor lighting. That's basically the human auto white balance. But the color filters will throw you off balance.
Here is an example of a guy who took some amazing photos with dare I say, a lame Nikon 1, a lot of them are taken with Gradual Color Filters.
http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=938885&pagenumber=4
(Warming, its in Chinese. Just look at the pictures.)
So I had a Canon QL17 II rangefinder for a few years, like this one.
I forgot to took pictures before I sent it to a feller.
He did a nice conversion for me, here it is.
Here it is what it looks like on the NEX
Here it is with the Konica AR 40mm 1.8 on the right.
I also got a Minox 35 lens from that guy. He converted it to CCTV C-mount. So I have to get a NEX-C adapter first. This full frame lens is mind blowingly small. Looking forward to try it out.
A quite walk around test showed that the QL17 II lens is not particularly sharp. But the boheh is very smooth in vast majority of the time. Even f/2.0 is very usable. Focus throw is short. Minimum focus distance is short at 30cm, but I can literally unscrew the front half of the lens out if object is too close. I have to put a stopper there when I have time. Its pretty bad shooting against light, I doubt the lens has coating on it.
The gen 2 version of QL17 was made in very short period of time before the gen 3 came out. So this lens is 40 years old. The rangefinder was not in great shape when I sent it in. I am glad the good bits can keep rocking in front of modern sensor.
This one is taken at f/2
I did some more testing shoots over the weekend. What I have found really interesting impressive about the lens is that how smooth the mid range bokeh is. I can have a portroit face in the background out of foucs and I will get a smooth rendering in almost any distant.
Also, compare to my Konica AR 40/1.8, the f/1.7 f/2 is more usable. The Konica IME is a sharper lens in smaller aperture and in infinity, but f/1.8 is pretty useless to me. I get the halo type brightness on the focus point, I don't know what to call them.
Here is a few more photos that showcase front and rear bokeh of teh QL17II at close distant.
I forgot to took pictures before I sent it to a feller.
He did a nice conversion for me, here it is.
Here it is what it looks like on the NEX
Here it is with the Konica AR 40mm 1.8 on the right.
I also got a Minox 35 lens from that guy. He converted it to CCTV C-mount. So I have to get a NEX-C adapter first. This full frame lens is mind blowingly small. Looking forward to try it out.
A quite walk around test showed that the QL17 II lens is not particularly sharp. But the boheh is very smooth in vast majority of the time. Even f/2.0 is very usable. Focus throw is short. Minimum focus distance is short at 30cm, but I can literally unscrew the front half of the lens out if object is too close. I have to put a stopper there when I have time. Its pretty bad shooting against light, I doubt the lens has coating on it.
The gen 2 version of QL17 was made in very short period of time before the gen 3 came out. So this lens is 40 years old. The rangefinder was not in great shape when I sent it in. I am glad the good bits can keep rocking in front of modern sensor.
This one is taken at f/2
I did some more testing shoots over the weekend. What I have found really interesting impressive about the lens is that how smooth the mid range bokeh is. I can have a portroit face in the background out of foucs and I will get a smooth rendering in almost any distant.
Also, compare to my Konica AR 40/1.8, the f/1.7 f/2 is more usable. The Konica IME is a sharper lens in smaller aperture and in infinity, but f/1.8 is pretty useless to me. I get the halo type brightness on the focus point, I don't know what to call them.
Here is a few more photos that showcase front and rear bokeh of teh QL17II at close distant.
I was wondering if I could get some help deciding which lens out the two I could get? I own a T1i and the lens that came with it is my walking around lens (18-55mm) and I'm tired of being limited by range of it. So I figured its time to get a better one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I53S/?tag=neogaf0e-20
or
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002NEGTT2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006I53S/?tag=neogaf0e-20
or
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002NEGTT2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Hey guys I am looking to get my wife a new lens for her Canon T3i.
Currently we have the two kit lens that came with it, and we have the Sigma 30mm 1.4. She is wanting a wider angle lens. We have been really happy with the Sigma so far. Was thinking about getting her the Sigma 10-20mm. Problem is there are 2 different ones.
10-20mm F3.5 EX DC HSM
No doubt, this is the better lens. Better aperture throughout the zoom range. Better for low light conditions. It is pretty expensive. Even discounted from the list price it is going for around $650.
10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM
Not quite as good a lens on paper. The plus is the price is around $480.
Which would you guys choose? I'm spending more than I really should probably with either one, but she really wants a wider angle lens that is decent. She is in grad school for historic preservation and is always the photographer on projects so I want to get her the best we can afford that also might help with her career down the road. I am open to other suggestions as well, but we so far have been happy with Sigma, and nicer Canon lenses.
Thanks in advance!
Currently we have the two kit lens that came with it, and we have the Sigma 30mm 1.4. She is wanting a wider angle lens. We have been really happy with the Sigma so far. Was thinking about getting her the Sigma 10-20mm. Problem is there are 2 different ones.
10-20mm F3.5 EX DC HSM
No doubt, this is the better lens. Better aperture throughout the zoom range. Better for low light conditions. It is pretty expensive. Even discounted from the list price it is going for around $650.
10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM
Not quite as good a lens on paper. The plus is the price is around $480.
Which would you guys choose? I'm spending more than I really should probably with either one, but she really wants a wider angle lens that is decent. She is in grad school for historic preservation and is always the photographer on projects so I want to get her the best we can afford that also might help with her career down the road. I am open to other suggestions as well, but we so far have been happy with Sigma, and nicer Canon lenses.
Thanks in advance!
What does GAF think of the Sony NEX-5N for an amateur?
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666375215
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666375215
The ideal lens would be the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8. Not sure what the price is where you live. It might be a little bit more expensive.
I've been recommending it to pretty much anyone who wanted something better than a p&s given the lack of interesting additions for entry level dslrs for a past 1 year or so. Only thing you are missing is the viewfinder (evf expensive)
As long as their goal isn't to immediately try out things like telephoto lenses or off-camera lighting I think its great.
Whats more interesting is the number of people that were thinking of getting Nikon J1 that I had to convince them out of. Regular consumers really cannot tell the sensor difference and put Nikon 1 and Pentax Q series on the same league as other mirrorless cameras because they have interchangeable lens system. Which is especially ironic given that the reason why they are upgrading their p&s is for that shallow depth of field.
ZeroCypher
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I just wanted to get one with a better range because I'm tired of being limited by my walk around lens. I'm going to get into macro pphotography so I'm going to be spending a pretty penny on the 100mm 1:1 macro lens that Canon offers.
anyone have some bag recommendations? i have a 7D with a couple lenses (18-55 stock, 28 f/1.8, and 70-200L f/2.8 IS), but i also travel a fair bit and need the bag to be able to carry my 17" laptop. i currently toss my equipment and laptop into a high school backpack i've had for 12 years now.. i need something a little more work-appropriate that has padding and compartments for the lenses..
any suggestions?
any suggestions?
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Maybe something like this?
Domke F-811 Canvas Photo/Laptop Satchel
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0026IBI28/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I don't have first hand experience with such a combination bag though
Meus Renaissance
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How do you tell which lenses are compatible with other cameras? For example, for the α NEX-5N, is it compatible with all Sony lenses? How about Tokina lenses or Sigma lenses?
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
The NEX mount is called Sony E-Mount, the DSLRs from Sony are A-Mount. Canon is EF Mount, their APS-C made lenses are EF-S Mount. Nikon is F-Mount. Things get a little more hairy when you start getting into adapting different mounts for other cameras but generally the Canon EF mount is the most forgiving of all the current DSLR mounts. The Sony NEX E-Mount is the most adaptable mount of all the cameras.
that doesn't seem like it would be very functional for my needs. i've narrowed it down to a couple bags, i think this one is my favorite at the moment.
that doesn't seem like it would be very functional for my needs. i've narrowed it down to a couple bags, i think this one is my favorite at the moment.
I have this Vivitar Backpack and it's pretty nice, you can acces all the compartments from different sides of the backpack.
The Tokina 116 is about $600 new. It has better sharpness and distortion control than the Sigmas. Although at this range color repoduction is probably more important than sharpness.
I would go on flickr and find out how bad are the edge distortion before I buy the ultra wide zooms. Alot of these zooms have very bad distortion at the wide end.
So basically you can't have any human around the edge of the frame other wise the distortion is very noticable. Those clown legs are so annoying.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Satchel bags are awesome for quick access but I can see it being the wrong type of bag for travel. Seems like the bag you're looking at can store other non-photography items too which is definitely nice.
I'm waiting for Newegg to get it back in stock. It's $599 with the 18-55mm lens.
BlueTsunami
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GamePnoy74
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Very nice...I wish I could drop the big bucks on the body along with the Zeiss 24mm lens...
So I am pretty excited...just ordered a D7000 along with an 18-200mm lens and some accessories from Amazon. It is a gift to my wife...but I am super excited to play with it as well.
The best Christmas presents are the ones you buy for yourself as well. :lol
All in one = Versatile zoom?
Either the Canon 15-85mm
or
the Canon 17-55/2.8
If you can't afford the 17-55, you can opt for the Tamron 18-50/2.8
Thanks for the suggestions. Yea, I was looking for a fairly fast zoom lens with good macro ability and bokeh.
Had a Nex-5 for a while, now have a Panasonic G3.
They are compact but not massively more compact than a small DSLR like a 1000D (especially the G3)
I liked the NEX-5 and the 'peaking' made manual focus easy to use. But I was disappointed at the lack of lenses coming out and ended up buying a few legacy lenses to use in manual mode.
Switched to a G3 as I found I wanted a viewfinder, and am enjoying that although likewise there isn't the lens range that I'd like or that I had when I was a DSLR user. Controls are great, foldaway LCD screen is good to protect it, and flexible for shooting at different angles.
Go for it. The NEXs have very few compromises in terms of image quality or control over shooting, just be aware they don't have a huge amount of lenses available.
So I've been looking for a laptop/camera bag as well. I finally settled on,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004IDIMR8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER (medium size)
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TOD4OK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I really wanted something that looked nothing like a camera bag and this fit the bill. Also much cheaper than ordering the actual Timbuk2 Camera bag or customizing a bag on their website.
waxer
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Im actually on the opposite side. I have a panasonic g2 but need something more comfortable and bigger. Even with the g2 its big enough that unless the issue is weight you still have to think about taking it around with you. Its not as though it fits in a pocket. I regret not going to a larger dslr first. Then the problems with extra cost for decent lens here is annoying. Support of third party accessories etc.
that doesn't seem like it would be very functional for my needs. i've narrowed it down to a couple bags, i think this one is my favorite at the moment.
I have that one, it's nice but don't expect to put too many lenses in there. But it will fit just fine on planes in the overhead or under the seat.
phisheep
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I'm no expert Kunohara, I can only tell you what worked for me.
To start with I spent way too much time reading the manual and fiddling with settings and taking the odd picture before I realised the photography is essentially an experimental art. You learn it by doing it. I learned that the hard (but fun) way by spending three hours wandering around taking photos in heavy mist where none of the auto settings worked at all well.
For online resources I'd suggest the following:
Dan Heller: A lot to go through, but worth taking your time with
Photozone.de: very thorough, very detailed, very useful (but maybe after you've got the hang of the basics)
Ken Rockwell:Interesting, provocative and sometimes annoying, but he does seem to know his stuff and usually fun to read
But the main things are to:
(a) keep off the preset stuff on the camera - stick to the 'creative zone' of Av Tv and Manual
(b) Get the hang of paying attention to the numbers in the bottom bit of the viewfinder so you know what you are shooting at
(c) Try some difficult things. Mist, nighttime, indoor still life. And see what works.
Also, you might consider (and what worked for me) turning off Auto-ISO. Stick with ISO 100 for daytime and ISO 400-800 at night. It's one less variable to work with and helps you work out what to do with aperture and shutter speed. If you have auto-ISO on the camera always tries to compensate and you can't necessarily see the difference that you have made, until you get more in the habit of looking at photos and seeing what is in them.
EDIT: The other thing worth considering is photography magazines. There's a lot of them, but the DSLR Bootcamp in Practical Photography (which ran over about six months last year and I think is an annual thing) is quite a good gentle introduction to the basics.
Awesome, thanks alot for that. We are going to read the manual first (wife is doing that right now, it is her camera), then after just go nuts and take alot of pictures. Thanks for the web sites, I'm gonna take a look at them after work.
We've already taken some pictures, and oh man what a difference. Pictures are never blurry (my wife does not have a steady hand), it is awesome.
That's fine. I'll eventually get another (smaller) bag that I can use for more local jobs and adventures. At the moment I only have the 3 lenses mentioned in my original post, so this will hopefully work out okay.
Thanks for the comment, it makes me feel a little better about the bag. I sent the link to my wife, so hopefully it ends up under the tree next week.
Emergency! Christmas is upon me and my wife wants a DSLR camera. Money is not to be had in abundance, plus she's just barely starting out in photography. Is this a good camera and a good deal?
Canon EOS Rebel T2i Body
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Lens
$799 USD
Thanks GAF!
Edit: Is there a better deal on Amazon? Argh! No clue!
Canon EOS Rebel T2i Body
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Lens
$799 USD
Thanks GAF!
Edit: Is there a better deal on Amazon? Argh! No clue!
JORMBO
Darkness no more
Emergency! Christmas is upon me and my wife wants a DSLR camera. Money is not to be had in abundance, plus she's just barely starting out in photography. Is this a good camera and a good deal?
Canon EOS Rebel T2i Body
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Lens
$799 USD
Thanks GAF!
Edit: Is there a better deal on Amazon? Argh! No clue!
My mom got my dad that same deal from Best Buy. I think she paid $900 for hers, but they tossed in a cheap bag also.
The camera is awesome and the 55-250 is a great lens. I was never impressed with the 18-55 kit lens when I had it, but it's not horrible for someone starting out.
Emergency! Christmas is upon me and my wife wants a DSLR camera. Money is not to be had in abundance, plus she's just barely starting out in photography. Is this a good camera and a good deal?
Canon EOS Rebel T2i Body
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens
Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS Lens
$799 USD
Thanks GAF!
Edit: Is there a better deal on Amazon? Argh! No clue!
I can't help you, but I was just in the same situation. Problem is she just wants to take nice pictures of the baby, not really get into photography.
I ended up finding a good deal on a Powershot SX40HS and went with that. I just feel like for what we needed the huge DSLR was too much. If your wife is planning to do serious photography it's probably worth going with the DSLR.
Meus Renaissance
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Difference is largely due to the tilting LCD screen available on the T3i, allowing you to e.g. watch the level of focus when recording yourself on the camera, or wanting to take group photographs with no behind the camera. If the price difference isn't an issue I would definitely go for the T3i.
Amazon seems to offer better deals as well. Remember, you'll also need an SD card (Class 10 for HD video recording), a bag and perhaps even a tripod. Take this into consideration before deciding what focal length (zoom) you want. I see Amazon offering the 18-55m kit and larger lens, if you got the 18-55mm kit it'll save you $100. With that you could get the Canon 50mm 1.8 prime lens which I used 90% of the time (compared to the 18-5mm) and is a must for starters IMHO
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