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The Official Final Fantasy XIII TRIAL VERSION Thread
- Thread starter Kagari
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HK-47 said:
Oh, I caught myself before responding on the FFT... yeah, the remake had a great localization. Anyway, nobody is saying no other game has had good localizations (although I notice a distinct trend with your choices
), just that FFXII is EASILY the top of jRPG class. Without peer. It is so many hundreds of times better than the next comparable jRPG in terms of localization - and voice localization in specific - that it's almost a shame to put it in the same category as any other jRPG. By contrast, FFX's localization came from LOLville in the great land of LOLtopia.Dragon Quest VIII had a real good localization, though, liked what they did with that. Very british.
Zilch said:
So if we don't like FF XII's battle system we are a bunch of whiners?
And really, what do you care if we don't like it, why is it frustrating for you? Or for anyone, for that matter?
And why take solace is someone else's disappointment or wish they will never get their kind of battle system? Because they don't like your kind of battle system?
Grow up. We all have our own likes and dislikes. It's called an opinion. Just because someone doesn't like something, doesn't mean they are a 'whiner' or they are 'wrong' for not liking what you like.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Amir0x said:
Amir0x speaks the truth. Maybe I can finally buy him and Obama a beer.
It was so nice to not feel like I was losing brain cells while hearing the voice work in the game. I think Sazh is a good indication I will be back to crazytown with FFXIII, I hope that's not ASSUMING too much. Dude has a chocobo in his afro and does a funky groove dance whenever he's idle. :JAPANRACISMROCK:
TheJollyCorner
Member
Amir0x said:
Oh... it'll give you so much HEART you'll have your manhood in any homely, sour-cream-and-onion smelling vagina in a Fort Worth, Texas line-dancing club you can imagine.
How's that for HEART, pancho?
I'll bring the camera.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Amir0x said:
I watched the video thing from 1up. So much utter crap in that thing. Just full on blatant bullshit. And they complained about the levels being just straight lines and actually got lost like four times. They complained you can't die, that circle is the win button, and they died. Just moronic.
Great to see Milky though, not sure why he's never been a regular on any of their shows.
Great to see Milky though, not sure why he's never been a regular on any of their shows.
YepCcrooK said:
If that is in anyway directed to me, no. I've been critical. The 'bullshit' I mentioned is factually inaccurate things they said, like ACC is region locked and won't play on US PS3s (stupid because it's not region locked, and if it was, it would still work on US PS3s), things like Nomura designed characters he didn't, and calling them typical of his work, even though he didn't do them and would be completely out of character of his work if he did.Amir0x said:
I have no issues with the things that are debatable being criticized. Just the things which are plain wrong.
BlazingDarkness
Member
my issue with it, is that they didnt have a clue what they were talkin' aboutAmir0x said:
when they're telling readers that the movie only works on JPN consoles etc, that kinda misinformation isn't very professional
LowParry
Member
I forgot to mention. Even though the last part of the Versus trailer was just dialog, the whole intro is fucking amazing. The music sets the tone for that and it makes my blood boil with excitement every time I heard it. I'm really looking forward to see what they do with Versus.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
Amir0x said:
I'm pretty sure the VA on both DQVIII and FFXII were handled by the same company. I remember reading a profile about them in Edge, I can't remember what they were called though, they were British based. IIRC it was a bit of a reverse 8-4 situation, were they handled the VA and dabbled in the actual localisation.
Rahxephon91 said:
At it's core FF XII was the same battle system. It also had menus, it also had the ATB system.
However, it felt completely different. The combat moved too smoothly for it's own good. There were no defined rounds or turns. All they really needed to do was have the menu pop up on it's own, like it did in prior FF's. But instead, you had to guess when each character's ATB gauge expired. It just was too awkward to input commands manually. The game was designed to use gambits and it showed.
I just did not like the real time, ATB turn-based mix.
bloodforge
Member
All this FFXII talk is making me want to play through the game again.
BlazingDarkness said:
Obviously they should have these facts right.
stubburns said:
Who designed the characters? I am almost 100% sure I read that Nomura designed Lightning and some of her companions. And I don't think it's untypical of his work at all. Some of them are so reminiscent of earlier Nomura designs that if it wasn't him designing them, the artist certainly was inspired BY him.
brandonh83
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bloodforge said:
I started a new game yesterday. Replaying the game I really think the story is quite good and the voice acting/writing is the best in the franchise so far. Unlike leveling up like a fucker like I did my first playthrough, I'm going to just plow through the game and try to get more into the story. First time through I spent so much time leveling up that I'd forget what was going on with the story. This time where I'm trucking through, I'm finding it more entertaining and challenging.
FFXII is awesome. Always was but the replay is making me like it even more than I already did. Do it.
stuburns said:
Well I will say this. The art style is fairly consistent in what we have seen in FFXIII so far. Therefore, we can infer that at the very least the artist was inspired by Nomura's art, which makes sense considering.
I don't think it is fair to say any of the work is UNTYPICAL of Nomura. I doubt any of them could name the obscure artist who handcrafted each and every individual character, of which there are presumably hundreds.
Edit:
Also man watching the 1up LIVE STREAM of FFXIII, I really can't believe how obnoxious Sazh's funky groove idle dance is. I don't know how that shit passed inspection, but it IS Japan.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I really wish they released FF12 International elsewhere..I think any FF12 haters would very quickly change their tune. I played FF12 when it came out and had the fortune of playing International when it came out here in Japan as well. Normally I won't even touch an RPG again for a few years, but the changes they implemented with the job system and added gambits made the game have an amazing Final Fantasy feel. My only complaint is that ridiculous random treasure chest system..or the bow on the airship..
Anyway in regards to FF13's battle system, I think the demo is severely limiting and people aren't thinking ahead. When you have 3 characters to control and you have to worry about queuing moves and linking moves for each, the true beauty of the system will be unlocked. The bar is going to be more than 3 slots as well, most likely 6. When I did my first juggle in the demo and the AI partners also attacked and kept the enemy in the air, it was really satisfying.
Anyway in regards to FF13's battle system, I think the demo is severely limiting and people aren't thinking ahead. When you have 3 characters to control and you have to worry about queuing moves and linking moves for each, the true beauty of the system will be unlocked. The bar is going to be more than 3 slots as well, most likely 6. When I did my first juggle in the demo and the AI partners also attacked and kept the enemy in the air, it was really satisfying.
Amir0x said:
No, it didn't. You had to hit 'X' to bring it up.
Amir0x said:
Ok, I'm sorry, I should have clarified (my fault). Yes, it does show the ATB meter, but it was pretty small and moved so quickly, so trying to watch the combat while also quickly looking down to see where the ATB meters were at felt like I was timing it. As I mentioned before, if the menu just popped up on it's own, it wouldn't have been as much as an issue.
Pai Pai Master
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rataven said:
Seriously. The dude with the red hair is one of the very worst designs in FF history.
Ether_Snake
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I like Lightning Snow and Sazh because they fit together. The rest is ridiculous, especially red-haired dude, mainly him actually.
It's weird because I grew up playing turn-based RPG's and loving them, FF's, Skies of Arcadia, heck even pokemon. After I played FFXII, and games like Kingdom Hearts, Tales of Symphonia I really struggle with turn-based games. In fact I can't remember the last turn based RPG that I could stay interested in.
I don't really get the hate for FFXII, but I can agree on many problems people think it had - it didn't feel like a great FF, but it was a good RPG. I really hope FFXIII brings back that FF feel.
I don't really get the hate for FFXII, but I can agree on many problems people think it had - it didn't feel like a great FF, but it was a good RPG. I really hope FFXIII brings back that FF feel.
Ether_Snake
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What I liked about Snow, Lightning and Sazh is they look like they are actually fighting. Osaka Whore and co. look like they are going to a cosplay party. You don't dress up to go shoot a rifle at PSYOPS. It looks dumb. Blargh.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Kagari said:
Yeah, a few of us gushed about it some pages back. It really is quite amazing how a few extra scenes, extensions and exposition can actually make the movie better.