Oh shit, it's out already? Guess I know what I'm getting in a bit.
Finished 00. Didn't like season 2 as much as season 1, but I was happy overall. I would prefer if they had never made the movie. While the production values were nice, I just didn't like the direction they went with like the whole thing.
Taking a break from Gundam, then jumping over to the U.C. stuff, starting with 0079.
Your first time entering the U.C stuff? Prepare for dat vintage Gundam animation... 0% CGI and 100% handdrawn animation... as God intended.
Also CaptainBrightbitchslap.gif.
Love the lack of cg. Don't love the aspect ratio, but I can adapt. I can also adapt to the dated nature of the animation after a few episodes. But I would take dated over extreme CG any day. The CG chugging along at like 10fps in the Berserk movie was murder.
But yes, first time into U.C. Gundam series. There is so much of it I want to take a break before I start. Also the reason why I'm hitting U.C. last-ish (I haven't seen any of Seed either), I just watched Wing and 00 over the past couple of weeks. I figured the contained universes were the way to start off. I am not sure if it is the right thing to do, but I am probably going to do the movie versions of 0079 first, then the side stories, Zeta, ZZ and then Char's Counterattack comes next I guess?
I am curious to see if coming at it from the angle of the alternate timelines affects my perception of the original material, though.
I figure I'll probably go back and watch the episode version of 0079 later, but I figure the movies are the fine-tuned version of the story, and don't suffer from early cancellation.
If your watching Zeta for the first time, be sure to watch the series rather than the movies.
But yes, first time into U.C. Gundam series. There is so much of it I want to take a break before I start. Also the reason why I'm hitting U.C. last-ish (I haven't seen any of Seed either), I just watched Wing and 00 over the past couple of weeks. I figured the contained universes were the way to start off. I am not sure if it is the right thing to do, but I am probably going to do the movie versions of 0079 first, then the side stories, Zeta, ZZ and then Char's Counterattack comes next I guess?
I am curious to see if coming at it from the angle of the alternate timelines affects my perception of the original material, though.
I figure I'll probably go back and watch the episode version of 0079 later, but I figure the movies are the fine-tuned version of the story, and don't suffer from early cancellation.
The movies compress the 43 (42 in the US DVD collection due the episode "Cucuruz Doan's Island" being cut and never shown on American T.V.) episodes into three parts that comprise the 'gist' of the entire series I guess, but protray certain events that'll only make sense if you watched the episodic version 1st. Also quite a number of character building moments were cut out due to time constraints and certain developments in the movies would just leave you scratching your head in confusion without the TV series to set it in context.
I recommend that you watch the movies after the episodes, if only to get the original intent and vision of the director (Tomino) of the series, but if you're in a hurry to reach Zeta (arguably the highlight of the UC series), then go ahead with the movies.
You'll find that the alternate universes crib a lot of the material in the UC, which is understandable, especially when it comes to character archetypes and motivations. The most notorious Gundam A.U. that did this was SEED. It's a good thing you haven't seen SEED yet, it'll spoil your 1st viewing of the UC series considerably.
Interesting. I might do that instead, then. As for that episode, why was it cut? I assume there are translations out there should I choose to watch it?
Yeah, my understanding is that Seed is kind of a retelling of the original for the younger crowd, which is why I held off. Wing and 00 back-to-back was a bit much as they have certain thematic similarity, but greatly diverge in getting there. Although I think anti-war is kind of a theme of the series, the strong focus on permanent peace is more at the fore in these two? I could be wrong, but that is the impression I have.
I also forgot I have G-Gundam on order, but I'll probably tackle that another time.
Interesting. I might do that instead, then. As for that episode, why was it cut? I assume there are translations out there should I choose to watch it?
Yeah, my understanding is that Seed is kind of a retelling of the original for the younger crowd, which is why I held off. Wing and 00 back-to-back was a bit much as they have certain thematic similarity, but greatly diverge in getting there. Although I think anti-war is kind of a theme of the series, the strong focus on permanent peace is more at the fore in these two? I could be wrong, but that is the impression I have.
I also forgot I have G-Gundam on order, but I'll probably tackle that another time.
Speaking of G-Gundam, are the subtitles edited for American sensibilities as well, or just the dub? Is the only difference the Gundam names?
Is there any info on what the next Gundam series is going to be? I'm guessing it's Origin?
Is there any info on what the next Gundam series is going to be? I'm guessing it's Origin?
Subs are fine, the dub...... not so much, in my opinion, which only counts for me lol. Others on the forum will definitely disagree.
Then again when it comes to Gundam, I'm sorta a Japanophile weaboo lol, so take that into consideration.
It's based on a manga retelling from the 2000's.That is what I've heard. It is basically a remake of the original, right? Based on the manga? More similar to the books, maybe?
Is there any info on what the next Gundam series is going to be? I'm guessing it's Origin?
It's based on a manga retelling from the 2000's.
However we have had zero word on the project since it was announced. Given SEED Destiny starting soon along with Unicorn Volume 6 in just two months time and Episode 7 later this year we could be waiting a good while before we get an official word on any future Gundam.
It's very possible that Origin isn't the next one inline depending on what format it will take on. We could easily get something between it and Unicorn finishing its run.
Don't know what I want outside of Katoki being the designer. Honestly don't care for UC myself, but while I liked SEED enough I rather all the fans hoping for an extension to be announced at the end of Destiny HD to be just as wrong as the people wanting something from Glory/Frozen Teardrop and would prefer UC to either of these.
What I read of Frozen Teardrop seemed like a disaster, but that might just be due to wiki writers and it not being completed. Glory seems unnecessary. I like the idea of leaving the manga for those who are into it (in Japan at least, lol, as I doubt that many come over), and let the stories speak for themselves. I haven't seen any of Seed, but I think a lot of people disliked Destiny, correct?
I don't know enough about the designers to have a preference yet.
Glory is far better the the anime ever hoped o be (just misses the amazing music) and while Frozen does have issues,it has several good ideas.What I read of Frozen Teardrop seemed like a disaster, but that might just be due to wiki writers and it not being completed. Glory seems unnecessary. I like the idea of leaving the manga for those who are into it (in Japan at least, lol, as I doubt that many come over), and let the stories speak for themselves. I haven't seen any of Seed, but I think a lot of people disliked Destiny, correct?
I don't know enough about the designers to have a preference yet.
Subs are fine, the dub...... not so much, in my opinion, which only counts for me lol. Others on the forum will definitely disagree.
Then again when it comes to Gundam, I'm sorta a Japanophile weaboo lol, so take that into consideration.
The dub is great, especially that one scene with Rain in the cockpit and the machine going down. Yeah.... I mean, Schwarz is awesome.
As for Destiny's hate, this isn't remotely an issue, SEED and more importantly Kira, Lacus and Athrun are the most popular thing to come out of Gundam since Amuro/Kamille/Char, and nothing comes even close. If there was an extension it's assured they wouldn't be dumb enough to push Shinn as the lead again.
Zeta is the reason, Shinn is/was meant to be SEED's version of Kamille with Kira taking on the role of Amuro and Athrun becoming Quattro.Which is why it boggled my mind so much why they had to introduce Shinn to the series in the 1st place. A sequel that centered on those primary 3 from the start would've been perfect. Took 11 crummy episodes before I could see Freedom kick rump again.
Although I have to admit having Shuuichi Ikeda (who played Char) play the Chairman Gilbert of Plant in Destiny was a stroke of genius lol.
Zeta is the reason, Shinn is/was meant to be SEED's version of Kamille with Kira taking on the role of Amuro and Athrun becoming Quattro.
It failed and the audience didn't take to him, and this is why you had this reaction. Had it gone the way they hoped it would weird you out in the someway it would if someone tried to complain that it wasn't Amuro as the lead in Zeta.
Athrun was why I was excited for Destiny. Didn't care for any SEED characters really outside of him. Sadly I actually watched Destiny so my hopes were horribly dashed.Another interesting point you brought up. They didn't make him Quattro, although they tried with the Alex Dino shtick lol but instead they neutered Athrun in Destiny.
Really, really neutered him. He was portrayed as ineffective, incompetent and always got his head handed to him in fights as compared to SEED where he was part of the elite lol. All that character development and progress flushed down the proverbial toilet in the 2 years after SEED. If you were an Athrun fan from SEED, you'd be doubly pissed at what they did to him lol.
I actually watched Zeta first, then the episodic versions of the original series. While I wouldn't necessarily recommend doing that, I really enjoyed both. =D Zeta is completely awesome. The pacing in First Gundam had some issues but the characters were pretty varied and hearing their stories was always pretty cool. I haven't seen all 3 movies but I can't imagine you'd get the same experience from watching them. So maybe watching them as a summary and then watching all of First later on when you can better appreciate it is a good idea.Interesting. I might do that instead, then. As for that episode, why was it cut? I assume there are translations out there should I choose to watch it?
Yeah, my understanding is that Seed is kind of a retelling of the original for the younger crowd, which is why I held off. Wing and 00 back-to-back was a bit much as they have certain thematic similarity, but greatly diverge in getting there. Although I think anti-war is kind of a theme of the series, the strong focus on permanent peace is more at the fore in these two? I could be wrong, but that is the impression I have.
I also forgot I have G-Gundam on order, but I'll probably tackle that another time.
The dub is pretty great, but I can never watch it because I'm too much of a Seki Tomokazu fangirl. Heh.Subs are fine, the dub...... not so much, in my opinion, which only counts for me lol. Others on the forum will definitely disagree.
Then again when it comes to Gundam, I'm sorta a Japanophile weaboo lol, so take that into consideration.
Is there any info on what the next Gundam series is going to be? I'm guessing it's Origin?
The article says that it has been announced that the Gundam The Origin will air on tv in 2014.
I don't speak French, but the article says that this image is in the new issue of Gundam ACE:
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Gundam Guy is reporting the same thing. We should probably wait for something official from Sunrise/Bandai.[/QUOTE]
Cool looking poster. Wonder if thy would go with an art style like that or modify it some. Is Gundam Ace not an official publication? Or you just mean confirmation that that is indeed the cover?
Cool looking poster. Wonder if thy would go with an art style like that or modify it some. Is Gundam Ace not an official publication? Or you just mean confirmation that that is indeed the cover?
Any word on that new Tomino Gundam?
Any word on that new Tomino Gundam?
They released them along time ago.What happened to the Seed Destiny movies? Are they just not worth the money to make?
I've heard that's the case. I wouldn't mind giving it a try sometime.Thankfully the Destiny movie comp salvages the series somewhat.
I've heard that's the case. I wouldn't mind giving it a try sometime.
They released them along time ago.
Unless you mean a follow up, but we never even got a final name for the movie and it was canceled along time ago. The director's I've and co writer of Destiny ended up passing away if I remember right.
Whut? This is news to me.
That was meant to be Wife, iPad makes some odd changes.
And that maybe wrong, I can't remember the exact reason.
Edit: Did some fact checking and it doesn't look like she was Co Director, just writer and she was ill since near the end of Destiny and later would pass away either beofre or after they canceled the SEED movie.
You're thinking of Chiaki Morosawa and while she was sick (brain cancer I think?) she hasn't passed away.
Reports from Japanese sites, such as Ayano☆Diary, say the most recent issue of Animage gives a long-awaited update on the situation surrounding the Gundam SEED movie, originally announced back in May of 2006. Chiaki Morosawa, who was the subject of an interview, says the plot has been done for some time now but that following the end of SEED Destiny, she fell ill, underwent examinations, and currently goes to the hospital for treatment. Apologizing more than once, she states the delay was simply due to that and though there isn't a plan in place, she has no lack of energy so she asks fans to please wait a little longer.