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[Droog]

I think that's the gist of it.

A few other things worth mentioning maybe? You've got the main ones though, certainly!

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- Paptimus Scirocco, a charismatic Newtype known as "the man from Jupiter", starts to gain influence within the Titans.
- Bright Noa, disgusted by the actions of the Titans, defects from the EFSF to captain the Argama.
- Char's wingman, Roberto, dies during the battle when Char/Apolly return to space. Other than Apolly, I might be the only other person who cared though. :-/

 

[CorvoSol]

Finished up Seed. I thought it was really quite good, despite jumping the shark about 10 episodes before the end. It was a small shark, but it went a little crazy and over the top there. Hopefully I can enjoy Destiny more than many of you did. Overall it seemed more like a traditional anime in terms of structure, characters, and subplot with fewer traditional Gundam elements filling in the back story, action, and overall story arc.

I actually saw Destiny before SEED and liked it. It'd be a better show if they toned back Shinn and never included Stella.

 

[donkey show]

Dunno if you guys have already seen the 08th MS Team 9 minute short film from the Blu Ray set called "Battle in Three Dimensions" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1z6VjNVluA&feature=youtu.be

 

[Droog]

Dunno if you guys have already seen the 08th MS Team 9 minute short film from the Blu Ray set, "Battle in Three Dimensions" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1z6VjNVluA&feature=youtu.be

Nice little video, thanks for sharing! Now if only that Blu-Ray boxset wasn't so damn expensive. Gouf Flight Type is awesome even if its weapon is seemingly ineffectual. Also, did they not want to pay Karen's voice actress?

 

[SerArthurDayne]

I actually saw Destiny before SEED and liked it. It'd be a better show if they toned back Shinn and never included Stella.

Not far in. He doesn't seem too bad thus far. A bit of a whiny bitch, but since nobody, especially Cagalli has called him out yet, whatever. Stella hasn't had enough screen time to form a strong opinion yet, but not great so far, but more meh tan bad.

 

[isny]

Dunno if you guys have already seen the 08th MS Team 9 minute short film from the Blu Ray set called "Battle in Three Dimensions" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1z6VjNVluA&feature=youtu.be

Wow, that was great. Is Unicorn anywhere near as good as that?

Not far in. He doesn't seem too bad thus far. A bit of a whiny bitch, but since nobody, especially Cagalli has called him out yet, whatever. Stella hasn't had enough screen time to form a strong opinion yet, but not great so far, but more meh tan bad.

Seed Destiny makes me so emotional :x Dat Meer! Dat Cagalli! Dat LaFlaga!

 

[Blader]

Wow, that was great. Is Unicorn anywhere near as good as that?

Better than 08th MS Team? No, but 08th is my favorite Gundam ever so ymmv.

Better than just that short? Err, yes.

 

[Tookay]

Wow, that was great. Is Unicorn anywhere near as good as that?

Yes.

Better honestly.

 

[KiraFA37]

Dunno if you guys have already seen the 08th MS Team 9 minute short film from the Blu Ray set called "Battle in Three Dimensions" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1z6VjNVluA&feature=youtu.be

Thank you Sir. I shall enjoy this while doing gunpla.

Wow, that was great. Is Unicorn anywhere near as good as that?

Unicorn is top tier. Contains so much 'MS porn' (grunts and MSV).

 

[isny]

Thank you Sir. I shall enjoy this while doing gunpla.



Unicorn is top tier. Contains so much 'MS porn' (grunts and MSV).

To watch Unicorn though, wouldn't I have to slug through the ton of content with Char and Amuro first?

 

[tuffy]

To watch Unicorn though, wouldn't I have to slug through the ton of content with Char and Amuro first?

Even though most of my UC viewing is from the OVAs, I haven't had much problem following along. There's lots of callbacks to previous series for flavor, but there's also enough exposition that's it's easy to get the gist of all the backstory without it getting in the way of the plot.

 

[EvilKatarn]

To watch Unicorn though, wouldn't I have to slug through the ton of content with Char and Amuro first?

You can't call experiencing Amuro and Char "slugging" through content.

 

[B.K.]

To watch Unicorn though, wouldn't I have to slug through the ton of content with Char and Amuro first?

The Char and Amruo stuff is the best of Gundam. The entire franchise SHOULD have ended after Char's Counterattack.

 

[Megalosaro]

Char and Amuro are amazing. It isn't surprising that Japan loves them so much. Two of my favorite characters ever. Truly top tier.

 

[CorvoSol]

Not far in. He doesn't seem too bad thus far. A bit of a whiny bitch, but since nobody, especially Cagalli has called him out yet, whatever. Stella hasn't had enough screen time to form a strong opinion yet, but not great so far, but more meh tan bad.

The problem with Shinn is no one except Athrun will ever call him out. He doesn't really reach the height of his assery for awhile. I just don't like Stella because she's involved in an incredibly dumb romance.

 

[El_Presidente]

Well all this talk about Char and Amuro has got me watching the first movie and the Dortmund Madrid game. I forgot how many people die when the Zeon rookie first decides to attack Side 7..

 

[strangedopamine]

The Char and Amruo stuff is the best of Gundam. The entire franchise SHOULD have ended after Char's Counterattack.

And miss out on Turn A Gundam? You're kidding.

 

[ambientmystic]

To watch Unicorn though, wouldn't I have to slug through the ton of content with Char and Amuro first?

Slug through?!?!?

Char and Amuro (and Bright!) is the BEST of Gundam. No Gundam without them. None.

 

[Lostconfused]

To watch Unicorn though, wouldn't I have to slug through the ton of content with Char and Amuro first?

Just to echo everyone here the movie trilogy and UC in general is some of the best that Gundam has to offer. Unicorn does heavily reference everything else that happened in the previous shows and it is filled with callbacks to ZZ Gundam.

So if you don't want to deal with any of that than just skip right onto G Gundam and Turn A Gundam and ignore everything else.

 

[Ezalc]

Somebody tell me what these new designs mean please. Aside from the fact that Cowboy Gundam looks hilarious.

 

[Blader]

Somebody tell me what these new designs mean please. Aside from the fact that Cowboy Gundam looks hilarious.

Is this some kind of G Gundam sequel?!

 

[Ezalc]

Is this some kind of G Gundam sequel?!

I don't know but I love the designs, though I do admit that I liked Gundam Maxter's previous boxer theme more than the cowboy one. Still awesome though. Dat gun barrel shoulder.

 

[distantmantra]

Is this some kind of G Gundam sequel?!

There's a new G Gundam manga running in Gundam ACE right now. It was announced earlier in the year, but I don't know much else about it.

 

[Ezalc]

There's a new G Gundam manga running in Gundam ACE right now. It was announced earlier in the year, but I don't know much else about it.

I want to see the new German gundam. It'd better be a ninja. I'm also kind of sad there never was a Brazilian gundam.

 

[distantmantra]

I want to see the new German gundam. It'd better be a ninja. I'm also kind of sad there never was a Brazilian gundam.

There have a been few G Gundam manga over the years. A couple years ago there was a prequel to the anime.

 

[Ezalc]

There have a been few G Gundam manga over the years. A couple years ago there was a prequel to the anime.

Oh I saw that. It had Master Asia as the protag and had the true Gundam Freedom not that garbage from SEED. Still mad there isn't some kind of OVA of it.

 

[distantmantra]

Oh I saw that. It had Master Asia as the protag and had the true Gundam Freedom not that garbage from SEED. Still mad there isn't some kind of OVA of it.

There a tons (literally metric tons) of Gundam spinoff manga projects that will never get animated.

 

[frye]

There a tons (literally metric tons) of Gundam spinoff manga projects that will never get animated.

or translated~

 

[distantmantra]

or translated~

Yeah, that would be nice. Wish someone would take a chance on Crossbone.

 

[Ezalc]

There a tons (literally metric tons) of Gundam spinoff manga projects that will never get animated.

Yeah I know, I just want more G Gundam.

Yeah, that would be nice. Wish someone would take a chance on Crossbone.

You and me both, Crossbone would make an awesome anime.

 

[gryz]

does anyone know if crunchyroll is ever getting all those gundam episodes back?

 

[distantmantra]

Yeah I know, I just want more G Gundam.



You and me both, Crossbone would make an awesome anime.

I just an want officially licensed/localized version of the manga. But I know it won't happen, seeing how Gundam isn't remotely popular in North America.

does anyone know if crunchyroll is ever getting all those gundam episodes back?

I kinda doubt it. Looks like Gundam will be streamed from Daisuki, once it's up and running.

http://www.fandompost.com/oldforums...nrise-TMS-NAS-Dentsu-to-stream-anime-overseas

 

[gryz]

I just an want officially licensed/localized version of the manga.



I kinda doubt it. Looks like Gundam will be streamed from Daisuki, once it's up and running.

sucks, I just joined recently before realizing those were all gone

 

[SerArthurDayne]

Dunno if you guys have already seen the 08th MS Team 9 minute short film from the Blu Ray set called "Battle in Three Dimensions" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1z6VjNVluA&feature=youtu.be

Anybody have another link to this? Went private, I think I found another one on Gundamguy but it appears that this one may have had subs before going private?

 

[Megalosaro]

Yeah, I want to see it too. Any particular reason why they made the short?

 

[distantmantra]

Yeah, I want to see it too. Any particular reason why they made the short?

To help sell the Blu-ray boxset in Japan.

 

[Blader]

Yeah, it's just a promotional thing. It was nice to revisit 08th with some new material though.

 

[strangedopamine]

I just noticed that the eyecatches from Victory were an animation. It's like those magazines that form a picture if you line the spines up.

 

[SerArthurDayne]

So I've come around. Shinn is pretty much the shittiest, most pathetic character in the entire franchise. Not just the worst "protagonist." Any redeeming moments in the last dozen or so episodes, or do I just have to hope in vain that he gets exploded?

 

[Blader]

So I've come around. Shinn is pretty much the shittiest, most pathetic character in the entire franchise. Not just the worst "protagonist." Any redeeming moments in the last dozen or so episodes, or do I just have to hope in vain that he gets exploded?

iirc, he actually gets even worse in those last episodes.

 

[fertygo]

The moment around eps 30 before they retcon it to the death
I will only cherish my support to Shinn in SRW game again

 

[Jubern]

Yeah same here. I even tend to give him preferential treatment lol

But anime Shinn is an irredeemable asshole by the end unfortunately, they forego any kind of development for him past episode 30 and his end is simply pathetic on all accounts.

Fuck the writers of this show. They fucked up his character and the whole ZAFT cast in an incredible way.

 

[EvilKatarn]

So I've come around. Shinn is pretty much the shittiest, most pathetic character in the entire franchise. Not just the worst "protagonist." Any redeeming moments in the last dozen or so episodes, or do I just have to hope in vain that he gets exploded?

He kind of realizes what a sack of fucking shit he really is in the postcredits sequence of the final episode I think. And then he supposedly goes on to be a pretty cool guy in SRW, or so I've heard. But consider that Kira never realizes how full of himself he is.

Still, that doesn't redeem his overall garbageness.

I was more enamored by the fact that they turned Athrun into a... different thing.


I watched the first one of the Zeta movie trilogy last night. Man, that is not the way you want to experience Zeta. I do wish they'd remaster all of Zeta in widescreen like they did to the old scenes in the movie. The new animation is pretty great also and makes the greatest scene ever

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where Amuro and Char meet

even greater. It's a great supplemental to the show, but bad for first-timers. Felt like 80% of it was action.

 

[frye]

Shinn could have been a brilliant character if they played him right.

But it's Destiny, so they don't.

 

[EvilKatarn]

I'm a pretty creepy guy myself but even I was creeped out by how much he listened to the phone recording of his sister.

 

[SerArthurDayne]

He is like a mentally challenged version of Athrun Zala, along with inexplicable combat success despite rage induced incompetence. They are pretty much setting up Zaft as the bad guys again right now, although I guess mostly through ignorance and manipulation. That is why I expected him to figure it out and have a moment of redemption at some point, but this thread seems to indicate otherwise.

But honestly, I think

Spoiler

Lunamaria is handled the worst. She is pretty cool for most of the series and then: oh, you killed my sister? Let's fuck. What, now?

Cpt. Gladys seems pretty alright, though. And I actually think the show probably would have been more interesting if

Spoiler

Durandal was actually just an idealistic good guy, rather than a crazy with whatever his plan turns out to be in specific

.

 

[ambientmystic]

I'm a pretty creepy guy myself but even I was creeped out by how much he listened to the phone recording of his sister.

This can't be mentioned enough. We get it already, you miss your dead sister.

Showrunners, you only have to show this scene once for maximum effect (as part of the set up to Shinn's motivations, what makes him tick). Maybe once again during a montage after he

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"kills" Kira and "avenges" her death.

Continuously repeating that scene ad infinitum greatly diminishes the intended effect that the audience was supposed to have with Shinn and instead turns the character into a creep with questionable intentions towards his sister that can't move on.

So much bloody recycled footage in Destiny.

But honestly, I think

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Lunamaria is handled the worst. She is pretty cool for most of the series and then: oh, you killed my sister? Let's fuck. What, now?

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She wrote Meyrin off as a traitor (given her previously close ties with her sister, I guess her loyalty to ZAFT takes precedent.), felt extremely aroused after Shinn did the nasty with Athrun and her sister and so in the heat of moment, smanged him. That's the only way I could rationalize her behaviour.

 

[Blader]

He is like a mentally challenged version of Athrun Zala, along with inexplicable combat success despite rage induced incompetence. They are pretty much setting up Zaft as the bad guys again right now, although I guess mostly through ignorance and manipulation. That is why I expected him to figure it out and have a moment of redemption at some point, but this thread seems to indicate otherwise.

But honestly, I think

Spoiler

Lunamaria is handled the worst. She is pretty cool for most of the series and then: oh, you killed my sister? Let's fuck. What, now?

Cpt. Gladys seems pretty alright, though. And I actually think the show probably would have been more interesting if

Spoiler

Durandal was actually just an idealistic good guy, rather than a crazy with whatever his plan turns out to be in specific

.

Everything about the show would have been better if it had just stuck to how the characters acted at the beginning of the series. It's 50 episodes of missed opportunities.

 

[Megalosaro]

It's pointless trying to rationalize anyone's behavior in Seed Destiny.

I timed a random episode of Seed Destiny. One that wasn't a recap episode. In total, it had only 8 minutes of new animation. Everything else was either a long flashback in the middle of a conversation (nearly every single conversation in that show had a flashback accompanying it by the way), or a recycled animation loop.

Utterly terrible.

 

[SerArthurDayne]

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She wrote Meyrin off as a traitor (given her previously close ties with her sister, I guess her loyalty to ZAFT takes precedent.), felt extremely aroused after Shinn did the nasty with Athrun and her sister and so in the heat of moment, smanged him. That's the only way I could rationalize her behaviour.

Spoilers for Seed Destiny and potentially Zeta.

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The Zeta redux needed a Reccoa analog, obviously. Because that was so awesome the first time it happened. I guess she didn't do anything too stupid, like committing mass murder because she is a woman. Cagalli being neutered in the beginning of the series was pretty bad, too.

Honestly, I do like the series. It suffers from pretty poor writing, a ton of recycling and flashbacks, illogical decisions (not uncommon in Gundam). But overall I think there is a solid potential that has gone unfulfilled. I'm curious to check out the fillms eventually to see how they are, as some have said issues were addressed. On future watches I'll just treat Shinn as a villain with a lot of screen time and no charisma, and that will probably help.