Victory is a sequel to F-91 and takes place in UC-0153, not 0053. As for Turn A being part of UC, it sort of is and isn't. While the history of Turn A is the same as UC, I don't think that it's an officially recognized part of the timeline. It's more of a split in the timeline.
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The Official Gundam Thread of Gunpla, Origins, and 35 Years of GUNDAMUUUU!
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Victory is a sequel to F-91 and takes place in UC-0153, not 0053. As for Turn A being part of UC, it sort of is and isn't. While the history of Turn A is the same as UC, I don't think that it's an officially recognized part of the timeline. It's more of a split in the timeline.
No it is.
There was a bog history of Gundam produced or something that maps out the UC timeline and has the CC at the end of it.
But wasn't that overwritten by a later timeline? I'm pretty sure Sunrise has retconned the CC timeline on several occasions.
Son of Cervantes
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Turn A is also explicitly tied into Gundam Wing.
Corin Nander has a flashback that features the Wing Gundam Zero Custom.
Corin Nander has a flashback that features the Wing Gundam Zero Custom.
There will never be a Gaia Gear Anime...
Though I am hyped for an official continuation of the UC Timeline in the Uber Future as opposed to Turn A's regressed Future.
Though I would love to see a Prequel to Turn A simply because the backstory tidbits on it are fascinating.
Though I am hyped for an official continuation of the UC Timeline in the Uber Future as opposed to Turn A's regressed Future.
Though I would love to see a Prequel to Turn A simply because the backstory tidbits on it are fascinating.
- Newtypes become their own race, Say fuck you to everyone in the Earth sphere and make their way into outerspace.
- A Malfunctioned Turn X (or A, I forget) left behind by the Newtypes lands in the Earth Sphere, causing people to flip their shit on these Superior technology and end up creating various Mecha, including the "Brother Unit of Turn A (or X, as mentioned previously). One Faction claimed the Turn X another the Turn A. Shit goes down. The Pilot of the Turn A says "Fuck the World" and Moonlight Butterflies EVERYTHING.
- Now if we are to Believe that the Dark History incompasses All of Gundam, as the writers wanted to Imply....then After Turn A wrecks shit, a regression occurs, technology builds up, [Insert Gundam Series here] takes place, timeskip, someone else finds Turn A, MOONLIGHT BUTTERFLY! Rinse and Repeat until the eventual Turn A series Timeline.
Son of Cervantes
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AGITΩ;105169889 said:
Imagine if the Turn A appears in G-Reco.
G-Reco ends with the destruction of the planet at the hands of the Turn A.
Imagine if the Turn A appears in G-Reco.
G-Reco ends with the destruction of the planet at the hands of the Turn A.
It would probably be the best "Kill 'Em All Tomino" moment of all time.
distantmantra
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G-Reko ending with Turn A goin' FUCK DIS EARTH would be pretty awesome. Hell, have Ideon show up as well for even more brain melting awesomeness.
Also, in addition to Moustache Gundam, we now have Eyebrow Gundam.
I've always been under the impression that Tomino didn't want Turn A to have ties to other Gundam shows (or even be a Gundam show), but since it was the 20th anniversary of the property, Sunrise pressured him so he went balls to the wall crazy with it.
Regardless, they can just retcon whatever they want whenever they want.
Also, in addition to Moustache Gundam, we now have Eyebrow Gundam.
I've always been under the impression that Tomino didn't want Turn A to have ties to other Gundam shows (or even be a Gundam show), but since it was the 20th anniversary of the property, Sunrise pressured him so he went balls to the wall crazy with it.
Regardless, they can just retcon whatever they want whenever they want.
Imagine if the Turn A appears in G-Reco.
G-Reco ends with the destruction of the planet at the hands of the Turn A.
Since Tomino was involved in Turn A and now This, I'm actually Hoping for this. More so than I had watching AGE.
...I was seriously hoping that the Turn A was actually short for Turn AGE and that Flit in his infinite rage for Vegan would Pilot it but it got out of wack and just wiped out the Majority of the Human race.
Son of Cervantes
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True. I believe they've retconned G-Saviour out of existence.
Megalosaro
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G saviour was never canon.
Son of Cervantes
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Rest in peace, Gangsta Saviour.
I actually like the G-Saviour design, it's very reminiscent of the F91.
I actually like the G-Saviour design, it's very reminiscent of the F91.
distantmantra
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Rest in peace, Gangsta Saviour.
I actually like the G-Saviour design, it's very reminiscent of the F91.
Yeah, it's not a terrible design or anything.
I still own the G Saviour PS2 game, by the way. Fun janky-ass game.
Son of Cervantes
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Was it expensive to get? I'm sure it's like 500 yen or so these days.
On PS2, I'm fond of One Year War and Climax UC myself.
distantmantra
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A friend included it in a big care package he sent me from Japan six or seven years ago. I'm sure it's incredibly cheap now.
And yeah, One Year War is a fantastic game.
Kinda sad that I own pretty much every single Japanese Gundam game since the Playstation/Saturn era. No bargain bin raiding for kuso-Gundam games in a couple weeks.
Megalosaro
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So the understanding of Origin on /m/ is this.
Origin I is going to be four episodes long and deal with the Char stuff. There will be additional Origins afterwards.
Is there any logic/sources to back up this idea?
Origin I is going to be four episodes long and deal with the Char stuff. There will be additional Origins afterwards.
Is there any logic/sources to back up this idea?
I took it to mean that there would be a total of 4 Origin OVAs, with the first one being Char and Artesia. I think that makes much more sense.
darkhunger
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That's not what Sunrise announced though.
Lostconfused
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Well clearly I was not paying enough attention to the story. What was the calendar before UC then?
Ah I knew it was in the 90s, hm for some reason I thought V was during UC 256. Only 103 years off.
Megalosaro
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Jeez, rrobbert trolled the hell out of that kit.
Before UC, they used our calender system, AD. Not to be confused with 00's AD calender system though.
Some side materials have UC starting around 2040~, which would mean that UC 0079 would be about AD 2119. Not sure as to the canon nature of that number though.
So it's 4 parts for the Char and Artesia book, and that's it? See, mine made more sense I think. Strange to just be getting one piece of it.
Hm I see. Awesome, now I'm getting hyped for Unicorn again. I should go back and rewatch the first 6 episodes. When is the 7th coming out again?
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Yes it's, 4 parts for 400+ pages of manga. It's a vehicle for Char fans. They're not redoing OYW. At least not anytime soon. Dealwithit, crymoar, etc.
Honestly the only thing I don't like about Unicorn so far is that Banagher is sort of bland as a protagonist. I don't hate him like I did Flit, Uso or Shinn, but I dunno. He's like if you stripped Amuro, Kamille, and Judau of the traits that make them distinct from one another and just left it at that. He's really . . . basic?
also the only way he can hit anything with the beam magnum is if someone purposely ran to catch the shot
What I dislike about Unicorn is how manufactured it feels. It's hard to point at any one specific example, but when taken as a whole it feels sort of empty as a story on its own. It's a big UC project, it has tons of throw backs for UC fans, lots of reference porn in the designs of the mechs, there's this constant feeling that they're trying to take everything that people liked about various UC shows and UC designs and make it "bigger and better" but without the same passion. There's something very workman-like about the entire production even though the production values are very high and it pushes the right buttons sometimes.
In his defense I think half the people who pilot MSes are suicidal anyway. "Oh sure I'll spend months training with this expensive, high-tech mecha that has about a 90% chance of getting blown up the moment I step out of my cockpit!"
I'd have deserted the Federation forces the minute I found out about "bits and funnels" frankly. I mean, how is a Zaku or a GM supposed to compete with stuff like that?
ask the stark jegan pilot
At least in UC there's a small period of time before things go insane. If I were a UEFA or ZAFT soldier though the first day the Freedom sortied I would quit war forever.
Can you imagine fighting something like that? And then the Strike Freedom? Holy shit the Strike Freedom, man. It's just this figure of light shooting death in all directions until everyone and everything around it is dead. It doesn't matter if you're ZAFT or UEFA either. The Strike Freedom is just there to kill you. And the Strike Freedom isn't even on the level of the Devil Gundam.
I mean how hilariously idealistic was Dr. Kasshu that he never considered the military applications of that thing?
No wonder the Turn-A destroys the world.
Can you imagine fighting something like that? And then the Strike Freedom? Holy shit the Strike Freedom, man. It's just this figure of light shooting death in all directions until everyone and everything around it is dead. It doesn't matter if you're ZAFT or UEFA either. The Strike Freedom is just there to kill you. And the Strike Freedom isn't even on the level of the Devil Gundam.
I mean how hilariously idealistic was Dr. Kasshu that he never considered the military applications of that thing?
No wonder the Turn-A destroys the world.
Megalosaro
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I don't mind Banagher. He's definitely not my favorite protagonist (that'd probably be Amuro, I guess). He was a bit mopey in episode 4, I think. Otherwise, he's been kind of alright. You're right, he's a little bland sometimes, but I'd still take him over quite a few protagonists in the franchise.
And funnels aren't unstoppable. As others have said, the stark jegan pilot in Unicorn did the right thing. If an enemy MS deploys funnels, you just rush them head on. They can't fire funnels if there is an enemy MS right in their face. Too much of a risk to the mother suit.
Plus, if you notice, Anaheim Electronics kind of developed the NTD as a way of disabling newtype weapons.
rip in peace
just hope you get in a good GM then and not a deathtrap ReZEL
So the price for the HG Neo Zeong has been revealed.
And if the Gundam changes sides? What then? Plus you still have to watch out for Zeon Mobile Armor, they never seem to get bored of them.
27,000 yen.
And if the Gundam changes sides? What then? Plus you still have to watch out for Zeon Mobile Armor, they never seem to get bored of them.
Etrian Oddity
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Unless this is Zeta Gundam or Stardust Memory, what are the odds the Gundam isn't on the GM's side? Shoot, even in Zeta if you're an AEUG GM pilot you're ok.
Lostconfused
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It doesn't matter how a Zaku or a GM is going to deal with that because UC isn't about normal people fighting newtypes. UC is about newtypes killing other newtypes and people trying to make newtypes even better at killing other newtypes. Heck the entire point of Unicorn is that it turns a newtype into a weapon specifically for killing other newtypes.
tl;dr - if you aren't a newtype then it's not really important what you think or want. If you are a newtype then I sure hope what you want is to kill other newtypes because it's not important if you want to do something else with your time.
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