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The Official Gundam Thread of Gunpla, Origins, and 35 Years of GUNDAMUUUU!
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JadedWriter
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Yeah I've only seen the first Macross and Macross Plus. I was trying to watch Macross 7, but I think accidentally watched like parts of an OVA by accident and shit made no sense involving I think a space whale and just stopped watching that. I do need to watch the other shows but isn't Mospeada some other thing that's like not even part of Macross?
Yeah, those are the other two anime shows they lifted to make Robotech. Still good shows. At least see what that bastardization came from.
JadedWriter
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Yeah I've always been curious about the original storylines to those two. I saw the original Macross and it didn't seem that changed in Robotech, but those two got altered a lot I'm pretty sure of. I still need to watch all of VOTOMS and I just got my hands on Gundam Build Fighters. I tried watching Valvrave, but it just can't hold my interest oddly, I mean I can watch it, but man...there's just something missing in that.
vas_a_morir
Banned
Did my first Master Grade. Basically, I was so impressed that I consider all other grades to be a waste of time*. The heft and durability of the finished product blew my mind compared to the HG and RG kits I had done. I had the head and the torso done and I was like "hmm, this doesn't seem so much bigger than 1/100" then once you get it together, it's just a beast. One thing, though, is that compared to RG, you need to be more conservative/selective with decals. They don't look so hot on a 1/144 compared to a 1/100 where you can't notice em as much. Of course, you gotta have iconic stuff that shows up in the Anime, but the other stuff? Less is more. At least, with MG Buster Gundam. They tried to shoe-horn in some yellow and I wasn't feelin' it. I did sneak a little Zaft logo on the shoulder, though. lol
*perfect grade excluded, as I'm not that deep into gunpla yet.
*perfect grade excluded, as I'm not that deep into gunpla yet.
donkey show
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Or variable fighters thus VF. The VF-1 was called Valkyrie, but the name stuck for all variable fighters. You can call them valkyries in place of variable fighter is what I mean.
You need to watch Genesis Climber MOSPEADA and Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross to graduate from Robotech.
Lisa Hayes >>>>
JadedWriter
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Roy was awesome, so was Max and Miriya. Just started up Build Fighters. The theme sounds like a rejected Seed opening....my ears.
donkey show
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No one gets to eat the pineapple salad, mang.
It'll always be his pineapple salad, so hands off.
JadedWriter
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Did Claudia ever eat it or is it just forever in the fridge as a shrine to him?
Those pineapples went on to be reused during a scene in Frontier, obvs.
They tried to give it to Ozma Lee, but he smartly avoided the death flag.
JadedWriter
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I never did see Macross Frontier. I watched the first two eps of Build Fighters, not bad. Is it just me or does Reiji look like Patrick Colasaur?
Probably hummed Planet Dance under his breath, expelling the death flag from his system as a result. Because if Macross 7 taught me one thing, it is that Basara and his music cannot be held down by silly things like reasons.
distantmantra
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JadedWriter
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So far when it comes to Macross singers it's Sharon Apple or bust for me.
So Gunjap just put up this huge tutorial for building kits.
Gets fairly detailed with it and I figured it might be useful for some people here.
Gets fairly detailed with it and I figured it might be useful for some people here.
So I could go back and rebuild the old Gundam Wing ones and be really happy?
Easily one of the most unexpected moments in UC Gundam for me.
Well I don't know, have you built a Master Grade before? If you have, then the old Wing models are really crap in comparison.
I have never build an MG one, just the Gundam Wing ones & Endless Waltz
Well, I don't know that it was surprising. Leina was clearly gonna die ever since she got captured. And the episode was actually named "Leina's Blood".
I guess I just didn't think the show had the balls to do it, you know? Up to that point I was under the delusion that Zeta's finale had sated Tomino.
Megalosaro
Banned
I'll never under estimate tomino's blood list again. Not after Be Invoked.
Well yeah, I know better now. But at the time I was so sure that the show was safe.
NintendoGal
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So I've begun watching the original MSG for the first time.
Here's what I've watched previous to this:
08th MS Team
CCA
Zeta Movies (I can see why people say to avoid these lol)
0080
0083
F91
Victory (Not more than 5-10 eps so far though)
Unicorn (I think I've seen one or two)
IGLOO
G
Wing (EW too)
X (A few episodes only)
Seed (All including Stargazer)
00 (All, unfortunately)
Age (First "season" only, lost interest)
Build Fighters
TAG (A few episodes only)
What I need to watch aside from MSG [all the way through]:
Zeta
ZZ (I don't care, I'm going to watch all of Gundam!)
Victory
Unicorn
TAG
X
Age (This will probably be the very last thing on the list to cross off lol)
And yes, I suppose it's odd I've seen CCA before MSG. The order I've been watching things is making it quite interesting to keep track of everything.
Getting back to the original topic of my post, even with the dated animation, I'm enjoying the heck out of it so far. It really shows how creatively bankrupt non-UC stuff has been, but that's just my opinion.
Thank you for posting this! I was at the SCGMC and wanted the PDF the guy was using for his demo.
Here's what I've watched previous to this:
08th MS Team
CCA
Zeta Movies (I can see why people say to avoid these lol)
0080
0083
F91
Victory (Not more than 5-10 eps so far though)
Unicorn (I think I've seen one or two)
IGLOO
G
Wing (EW too)
X (A few episodes only)
Seed (All including Stargazer)
00 (All, unfortunately)
Age (First "season" only, lost interest)
Build Fighters
TAG (A few episodes only)
What I need to watch aside from MSG [all the way through]:
Zeta
ZZ (I don't care, I'm going to watch all of Gundam!)
Victory
Unicorn
TAG
X
Age (This will probably be the very last thing on the list to cross off lol)
And yes, I suppose it's odd I've seen CCA before MSG. The order I've been watching things is making it quite interesting to keep track of everything.
Getting back to the original topic of my post, even with the dated animation, I'm enjoying the heck out of it so far. It really shows how creatively bankrupt non-UC stuff has been, but that's just my opinion.
Thank you for posting this! I was at the SCGMC and wanted the PDF the guy was using for his demo.
JadedWriter
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Anybody know if any of the UC suits in Build Fighter don't get completely wrecked? I've only seen Sazuki's Gyan and Yuuki's Zaku survive a battle, then again Kirara's Gerbera Tetera put up a good fight.
The Zeong in ep14? The Kampfer vs GM K-9 fight in ep18? Aila's Qubeley also wrecks everything in its way until ep21.
Lostconfused
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Dijeh absolutely destroys Freedom in that sweet sweet championship promo.
i came
Ohmygoditsjrod
Banned
Not sure how I'm feeling the knees on the suit. They look kind of boring for a PG.
JadedWriter
Member
There's a Quebeley in this? I can't wait to get to that! I know I saw a Victory suit get wrecked in a commercial earlier in the show, which is fitting cause it's a Victory suit.
Looks like the Full Armor Premium Bandai set is going to run an extra 7000yen...
NintendoGal
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Is this a sharp knees comment?
PG Unicorn - 21,600yen
LED Unit - 12,960yen
FA Expansion Unit - 7,020yen
Total - 41,580yen
vs
Glacier White 500GB Playstation 4 - 43,178yen
The horror of PG!
Megalosaro
Banned
7k yen for a full armor expansion.... doesn't seem that bad. Since it loads a bunch more parts.
Damn are you serious? Could not disagree more, always felt like the AU Gundams were the chance to use concepts from the original stuff while trying new things. It doesn't always make for good shows but at least it's usually pretty different.
Also something about the ultra pro-UC crowd, is it actually a love of UC or is it really just a love of Amuro and Char? Seems like the only UC stuff people put on a pedestal is MSG, Zeta, and CCA(0080 gets a lot of love too but it never feels as intense as these). I guess some would say it's because those are the "best" UC has to offer but of course that's subjective.
except for CCA which is a scientifically proven huge turd.
Except good lucky getting it at a decent price out of Japan. The middlemen services that grab Gundam stuff off of Bandai's Preimum Shop are quite pricy.
The UC timeline is really developed and sometimes Sunrise's best efforts go toward the UC, so it obviously has good results. You can have great world building in one off shows, but it can't really go as far as something with so many entries. Some people might consider that a detriment though. I'm not saying I'm pro-UC, but I probably enjoy those shows more most of the time. I'm really not that critical about the anime/manga I watch/read.
NintendoGal
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I should rephrase this. The LATEST non-UC offerings, aside from GBF. Things like Destiny and the back half of 00 and of course AGE. Also, I agree about CCA, but was reserving final judgment until I viewed all of MSG.
JadedWriter
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CCA culminates with bitching about a woman that died 20 years ago. I actually like Alternate Universe and Universal Century shows a lot, just seems like UC...I was about to end that sentence with "seems more grounded in reality," but then I remembered all of that newtype shit and Unicorn's ending and I just couldn't type that with a straight face. Sometimes I think certain parts of the fanbase romanticize UC and can't see some of the flaws in it. They're entertaining, but man...sometimes shit just happens for like no reason.
Unicorn did end up going pretty far out there with the "perfect newtype". It also made some retcons that really does nothing for the universe, since the Laplace Box is completely ignored in later shows. Well, they clearly chose not to follow it, at least, if you want to look at it that way. Unicorn's ending was trying to inspire hope, but that hope is lost since nothing really changes. It was a build up to nothing. Now if you look at Unicorn in a vacuum without considering canon, then that's an entirely different story.
Lostconfused
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Not nothing, there are like 3 or 4 more major conflicts to happen and eventually a mass spacenoid exodus from the entire solar system. Oh and the end of all civilization on Earth, can't forget that one.
Edit: Although someone did argue that Gundam UC undermines it's own ending by having a mass federation force being sent and only being stopped by crazy newtype magic again.
I'm talking about Laplace box itself. What it ultimately turned out to be. Sure they filled out some points of canon that were fine and acceptable. I don't remember a spacenoid exodus, but they did explain what spacenoids began as. If you're talking about what Full Frontal showed Banagher, then I still think that was what Full Frontal envisioned things would be like. It wasn't literal, but an effect of two psychoframes interacting. The stuff makes them able to impose thought and images in people's minds.
JadedWriter
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I looked at the show from an entertainment and coherent value. I like Unicorn a lot actually. Just that space time travel montage maybe go like, "is it emulating Evangelion?" It broke the flow of the show to me. Speaking of newtypes I do find it funny how Lalah is always a swan. Maybe it's my age or something, but man the franchise is weird at times. How weird is Turn A?
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