NathanMcMahon
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The History of Howard Stern is good and pretty over arching. It's too bad he abandoned the project.
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The History of Howard Stern is good and pretty over arching. It's too bad he abandoned the project.
Maklershed
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If you look around in the right places you can find the full month of October 1994 shows. I recommend listening to that. I dont know what was going on that month .. full moons, stress from the show/movie, etc ... but a lot of fight week segments come from that single month. A lot of Jackie bashing that month too.
Speaking of fight weeks, I recommend listening to all three weeks of those episodes. And if you can find it, listen to the Conan O'Brien episode from 1993. He gets demolished by Billy West / Jackie Puppet. It was hilarious.
Maklershed
Member
Saw this article about how AGT contestants get screwed on dawgsaloon and thought it was interesting ..
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...Gz2vBtStenGTrM
Hopefuls auditioning for “America’s Got Talent” must agree that producers can trick, exploit and embarrass them -- and depict their life stories in a manner “that may be factual or fictional” -- according to the show’s grueling 45 page contestant agreement, obtained by The Post.
“I further understand that my appearance, depiction and portrayal in the program may be disparaging, defamatory embarrassing...and may expose me to public ridicule, humiliation or condemnation,” the agreement states.
Acts are also required to a psychiatric evaluation and enter into binding management, recording or personal endorsement deals -- at the option of producers -- which would block them from accepting more attractive deals elsewhere.
And they can’t sue for any reason.
“You are pretty much signing away your life,” one former contestant says. “It’s almost non-negotiable.”
“Talent” -- now in its eight season -- is holding auditions in front of judges Howard Stern, Howie Mandel, Heidi Klum and Mel B. this week at the Hammerstein Ballroom.
The show allows singers, dancers and variety acts of any age a chance to win $1 million.
That prize, according to the fine print, is paid as an annuity over 40 years -- leaving the winner with $25,000 annually before taxes.
Among the show’s other terms and conditions:
•Hidden cameras may be used to film contestants in bedrooms, bathrooms, dressing rooms or “any other area in which a person under other circumstances might have a reasonable expectation of privacy.”
•If an act are disqualified, “Producer and the Network may make any explanation or announcement, on-air or otherwise...as to the reason why.”
•Participants and their families agree to a penalty of $5 million for providing false information to the show.
•Producers and NBC can require talent to participate in additional unscripted, “reality based” programs for up to one year.
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainmen...Gz2vBtStenGTrM
Hopefuls auditioning for “America’s Got Talent” must agree that producers can trick, exploit and embarrass them -- and depict their life stories in a manner “that may be factual or fictional” -- according to the show’s grueling 45 page contestant agreement, obtained by The Post.
“I further understand that my appearance, depiction and portrayal in the program may be disparaging, defamatory embarrassing...and may expose me to public ridicule, humiliation or condemnation,” the agreement states.
Acts are also required to a psychiatric evaluation and enter into binding management, recording or personal endorsement deals -- at the option of producers -- which would block them from accepting more attractive deals elsewhere.
And they can’t sue for any reason.
“You are pretty much signing away your life,” one former contestant says. “It’s almost non-negotiable.”
“Talent” -- now in its eight season -- is holding auditions in front of judges Howard Stern, Howie Mandel, Heidi Klum and Mel B. this week at the Hammerstein Ballroom.
The show allows singers, dancers and variety acts of any age a chance to win $1 million.
That prize, according to the fine print, is paid as an annuity over 40 years -- leaving the winner with $25,000 annually before taxes.
Among the show’s other terms and conditions:
•Hidden cameras may be used to film contestants in bedrooms, bathrooms, dressing rooms or “any other area in which a person under other circumstances might have a reasonable expectation of privacy.”
•If an act are disqualified, “Producer and the Network may make any explanation or announcement, on-air or otherwise...as to the reason why.”
•Participants and their families agree to a penalty of $5 million for providing false information to the show.
•Producers and NBC can require talent to participate in additional unscripted, “reality based” programs for up to one year.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Most if that seems reasonable and doesn't really differ from other shows. The private recording stuff seems odd.
Beer Monkey
Member
When did Billy West get demolished by John K.? Would love to hear that again.
Yeah it's crazy. I remember there were these same contract concerns leading up to the show's first airing, but somehow enough people have agreed to it that they're at an 8th season.
Maklershed
Member
Saw Ronnie's Cougar Town appearance last night. He has one line and during that line he spits or a booger falls from his nose or something. I can't believe nobody caught that while they were filming.
Count Dookkake
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PotatoeMasher
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PotatoeMasher
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Listened to the Billy / John K segment and it's great. Had no clue there was animosity between them.
PotatoeMasher
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Howard lost his appeal: http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...ses-appeal-of-pay-suit-against-sirius-xm.html
EleventhDoctor
Banned
Good news for everyone!
Harry Potter
Banned
Hope he talks about it.
LOL, prepare for more shows or perhaps all of H101 to be axed. No matter, I've moved over to listening to Jay Thomas now.
I'll definitely catch the highlights on SXM OnDemand though, should be a great breakdown.
PotatoeMasher
Member
Oh, don't worry about that. You'll get your wish.
I wonder how much of the audience actually feels bad for him that he wasn't able to worm into an additional $300 million of stock after he had already received a chunk due to the merger.
Grinchy
Banned
Does anyone here actually think he deserved the bonus or enjoyed the constant bitching about it?
Grinchy
Banned
I think there is someone in here who thinks he deserved it. I enjoyed the bitching in a weird way. I enjoy listening to Howard pretend he believes things though.
Because you had great hope for the satellite years that haven't been at all memorable?
There is some bitching he does that I enjoy. The bitching about the homeless game, are you smarter than a sixth grader, and other bits that have been stolen from the show have always been enjoyable to listen to because I actually heard the particular shows when they were created.
Him being owed this bonus always came off as bullshit and it was never enjoyable.
Killing_Joke
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To be fair Sirius and XM would have never merged if it wasn't for him. But since you can never prove that, the lawsuit was pretty stupid. I'm sure the bonus checks is the only reason he cared for the merger in the first place. The dude already received close to billion dollars when you include salary and bonuses. So even if he's wrong or right the lawsuit makes him look bad.
The crux of his argument was always that he had a verbal agreement with Mel about what would happen in the event of a merger and that Mel screwed him over when push came to shove. The contract not specifically spelling that out was entirely the fault of Howard's agent. I can understand how a judge could rule the way they did, even though it's pretty obvious that the subscriber numbers were hit because of Howard.
No one is going to cry for a guy that probably has a billion dollars at this point, and he really shouldn't have complained about it on air as often as he did. The guy driving to his 9 to 5 job doesn't want to hear a billionaire whine about losing out on even more money.
PotatoeMasher
Member
He had an explicit merger incentive that was given to him, so they built in a reward for his part of making that happen. Given the specific language acknowledging a future merger this suit seems to have been tossed out with relative ease at each level.
Grinchy
Banned
I would happily defend Howard if I believed he was owed this money. His contract does not state that his subscriber number bonuses would be hit if the 8 million existing XM subscribers (who couldn't even access his show at the time) suddenly fell under the Sirius umbrella.
Howard may have been the reason the merger was possible, but gaining millions of subscribers overnight was never supposed to count toward his performance-based bonus. If they were, it would have been in his contract. I still wonder if Howard's people purposely left it vaguely worded just in case of a merger happening, thinking that they could at least get a big fat settlement. IMO of course. I'm no lawman.
Howard may have been the reason the merger was possible, but gaining millions of subscribers overnight was never supposed to count toward his performance-based bonus. If they were, it would have been in his contract. I still wonder if Howard's people purposely left it vaguely worded just in case of a merger happening, thinking that they could at least get a big fat settlement. IMO of course. I'm no lawman.
His agent gets a cut of whatever Howard makes, so it would have been in his best interest to make the contract as air tight as possible. I think he simply fucked up.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Pretty much this
Grinchy
Banned
True, but what I mean is that I don't think Howard and his people ever thought that Sirius would agree to that in the first place. If they just kept quiet, they had a chance in the future of trying to steal some of the money in a settlement. I don't think either party at any point intended for a potential merger to work into his performance-based bonus, and that's the reason it isn't written into the contract.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
that's ridiculous
Bog
Junior Ace
Nothing beats '06.
Grinchy
Banned
I really don't believe Sirius would have ever agreed to paying him $300 million in the event of a merger.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
I have no idea but to assume that he was being devious is ridiculous. Nothing he has ever done business-wise indicates this. He screwed up the writing details in his contract. He most likely didn't plan to steal money through a lawsuit.
Harry Potter
Banned
I feel like I've heard Howard say in the last couple months that they could walk away from Sirius at this point. Could that be possible? If it is, I wouldn't be surprised if something came from him losing the appeal.
It's possible if he wants to be in obvious breach of contract and get sued. I guess Sirius could let him out of it, but there's no reason why they'd want to.
I believe Howard when he says that he had a verbal understanding with Mel about what was supposed to happen if he turned Sirius completely around and forced a Sirius dominated merger/takeover. I also believe that Mel probably knew exactly what he was doing when that language was nowhere to be found in the contracts.
Grinchy
Banned
If he didn't plan on stealing the money through a lawsuit, then that plan just suddenly came to him and his people. That is just as bad, and it also sounds devious.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
this seems more likely, than the ridiculous notion that he was being devious and trying to steal it. man, the lengths some go to to try and paint Howard poorly as a thief or a piece of shit are absurd.
this isn't an either or scenario. He thought his contract was supposed to work a certain way and he was wrong. your implications are absurd. you should read the court findings. it has nothing to do with money for a merger. it has to do with money for subscribers that happened to be acquired through a merger.
Maklershed
Member
Listening to the 4/1 show
Good: Bobby Moynahan interview. He seems like a really cool guy.
Awful: Trying to sell AGT101 as real. And the fact that certain callers call in on April Fools Day and believe not only that the channel is real but its 'awesome' makes me embarrassed to be considered a fan of the show. Its just cringe worthy.
Good: Bobby Moynahan interview. He seems like a really cool guy.
Awful: Trying to sell AGT101 as real. And the fact that certain callers call in on April Fools Day and believe not only that the channel is real but its 'awesome' makes me embarrassed to be considered a fan of the show. Its just cringe worthy.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Listening to Staff Picks and goddamn is that Beetlejuice vs Gary the Retard just fucking amazing. Spell "red"
Oh man I can't wait to hear Howard's rant about this.
Grinchy
Banned
We'll agree to disagree. When there is $75 million a pop on the line for bonuses, you don't just get lazy with your contract or trust that a backroom conversation will hold up.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
so you make a huge logical leap that he intended to steal money through a negotiated settlement? that's absurd. he's never in his entire career made a money grab. not once. if so, he'd be selling t-shirts and mugs. to turn your ire at the quality of the show into a completely wild theory is the same level of awful shit seen on Dawg Saloon. There's nothing to agree to disagree about. The reason for the lawsuit was wording in his contract that he felt one way about and his employer felt another way about.
Maklershed
Member
Aww Artie. Come back man!
RangersFan
Member
yes
Grinchy
Banned
Information on the lawsuit if anyone is interested:
Appellate Decision http://scarylawyerguy.blogspot.com/2013/04/in-case-you-missed-it-new-yorkappellate.html
Trial Court Ruling http://scarylawyerguy.blogspot.com/2012/04/howard-stern-lawsuit-dismissed.html
Motion Papers http://scarylawyerguy.blogspot.com/2011/11/breaking-down-stern-v-siriusxm.html
I don't know who this is who runs this site or wrote this information, but it is broken down into a nice easy-to-understand way. It's just really fucking long. The last one (motion papers) goes into some really good detail.
interesting snippets:
Appellate Decision http://scarylawyerguy.blogspot.com/2013/04/in-case-you-missed-it-new-yorkappellate.html
Trial Court Ruling http://scarylawyerguy.blogspot.com/2012/04/howard-stern-lawsuit-dismissed.html
Motion Papers http://scarylawyerguy.blogspot.com/2011/11/breaking-down-stern-v-siriusxm.html
I don't know who this is who runs this site or wrote this information, but it is broken down into a nice easy-to-understand way. It's just really fucking long. The last one (motion papers) goes into some really good detail.
interesting snippets:
I'm just starting the show, but I had to laugh at Robin's "See Howard? The rich just keep getting richer"
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Howard has got to be near a billion if not over it (depending on how well he invests). I was so happy when the caller said that he was the only rich guy that couldn't get richer.
Howard's agent fucked up so bad.
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Howard has got to be near a billion if not over it (depending on how well he invests). I was so happy when the caller said that he was the only rich guy that couldn't get richer.
Howard's agent fucked up so bad.
RangersFan
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another underwhelming show. nothing notable, nothing special, marky mark only there to promote, nothign more. amy schumer pretty much the same thing as her last 2 visits. hope tomorrow's show is better with something for them to actually discuss with the boston marathon.
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