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[AmericanNinja]

If anyone wants to help me with beating the rest of the levels on expert let me know. I don't have the best connection at the moment I do lag a tad but if anyone is willing to put up with that and help me out I would appreciate it. Let me know. I have L4D on PC.

 

[JayDub]

I bought this game about 2 weeks ago and couldn't get into it. Am I missing something?

I hear talks of "points" and "slaughtered the other team." Is there another multiplayer aspect I haven't played yet? Only tried co-op so far for campaign, I thought that was all there was to it?

 

[Madman]

I bought this game about 2 weeks ago and couldn't get into it. Am I missing something?

I hear talks of "points" and "slaughtered the other team." Is there another multiplayer aspect I haven't played yet? Only tried co-op so far for campaign, I thought that was all there was to it?

They are refering to the Versus mode. It's basically the campaign with two teams of four that alternate being survivors and special infected.

It's awesome.

 

[SundaySounds]

I bought this game about 2 weeks ago and couldn't get into it. Am I missing something?

I hear talks of "points" and "slaughtered the other team." Is there another multiplayer aspect I haven't played yet? Only tried co-op so far for campaign, I thought that was all there was to it?

You haven't played verses mode? What are you doing with your life?

 

[JayDub]

You haven't played verses mode? What are you doing with your life?

Feeling sorry for myself after the buyer remorse went away...but thank god I took a peek into this thread! Going to try Versus mode tonight! Hope I don't get kicked out by my team for being a nub...

 

[SundaySounds]

Feeling sorry for myself after the buyer remorse went away...but thank god I took a peek into this thread! Going to try Versus mode tonight! Hope I don't get kicked out by my team for being a nub...

PC or 360?

 

[Red Scarlet]

It's actually NM3. NM2 is the subway.

Yeah, that's what I think of when someone says warehouse, not anywhere in NM2. :lol

If anyone wants to help me with beating the rest of the levels on expert let me know. I don't have the best connection at the moment I do lag a tad but if anyone is willing to put up with that and help me out I would appreciate it. Let me know. I have L4D on PC.

I can play later tonight probably, gimme a hollar.

 

[Coverly]

Question on the PC version:

When using single or double pistols, firing a shot gives off a really strong white flash. The problem is that if you're firing continuously, it hurts the eyes and it's just asking for a seizure. Is there any command that disables that flash of light whenever you fire a shot? I think the game looks perfect as it is, so I don't want to lower the brightness or contrast, it's just that flash that's bothering me.

 

[RocketDarkness]

Yeah, that's what I think of when someone says warehouse, not anywhere in NM2. :lol

As far as I can tell, NM2's building is probably a security/maintenance station for the subway, considering it's actually attached to it.

Oh, and I followed this guide, with some major tweaks to the text files, to play L4D via Wii Remote. My aim is terrrrrrrrible, hahah.

 

[DaFish]

Had a great game of VS yesterday, we totally owned the pub team, in particularly vertopci, his skills getting up ramps is amazing.

Spoiler

Morrowind is better

lol.... vert

I could have sworn he had a ton of health too...

 

[Red Scarlet]

Question on the PC version:

When using single or double pistols, firing a shot gives off a really strong white flash. The problem is that if you're firing continuously, it hurts the eyes and it's just asking for a seizure. Is there any command that disables that flash of light whenever you fire a shot? I think the game looks perfect as it is, so I don't want to lower the brightness or contrast, it's just that flash that's bothering me.

I never even noticed a flash until your post. It looks like I get the same flash no matter what gun I'm shooting, but it is so fast and off-white it doesn't do anything bad to my eyes. Maybe it is your brightness/contrast?

How different is it to this? Pure white? Long-lasting "burn" on your monitor?

http://redscarlet.paragonsigma.com/l4dshots.gif

 

[Coverly]

I never even noticed a flash until your post. It looks like I get the same flash no matter what gun I'm shooting, but it is so fast and off-white it doesn't do anything bad to my eyes. Maybe it is your brightness/contrast?

How different is it to this? Pure white? Long-lasting "burn" on your monitor?

http://redscarlet.paragonsigma.com/l4dshots.gif

Yes, that gif is exactly what i'm talking about!
My computer setup: pc connected to 56" hdtv, wireless kb/m, couch 5-6 feet away.

Because of the size of the screen, when it flashes white, it literally lits the whole room. I know it's fast, but with the pistols it's disruptive for some reason(might have to do with the amount of shots/second vs other weapons. for example, i don't fire the rifle as fast, so my eyes are not continuously assaulted). I usually like to play at night with no lights, but i might have to turn some lights on in the room if it looks like it can't be changed. I'll play with the brightness/contrast, i just wish there was a specific setting for just this because everything else looks perfect.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Yes, that gif is exactly what i'm talking about!
My computer setup: pc connected to 56" hdtv, wireless kb/m, couch 5-6 feet away.

Because of the size of the screen, when it flashes white, it literally lits the whole room. I know it's fast, but with the pistols it's disruptive for some reason(might have to do with the amount of shots/second vs other weapons. for example, i don't fire the rifle as fast, so my eyes are not continuously assaulted). I usually like to play at night with no lights, but i might have to turn some lights on in the room if it looks like it can't be changed. I'll play with the brightness/contrast, i just wish there was a specific setting for just this because everything else looks perfect.

Oh, maybe it's the big tv?
No idea if there is an option though.

 

[MNC]

Turn on your flashlight, I usually do that because I can't keep good track of zombies with the flashes.

 

[Blizzard]

Does anyone know what the Steam update today was about? The last update news listed is back in January...

 

[MNC]

Does anyone know what the Steam update today was about? The last update news listed is back in January...

Wondering the exact same thing. L4D along with Episode Two and some other game that went too fast updated without any news.

 

[Ikuu]

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2337/

 

[Volcynika]

Tank melee attack can now hit multiple Survivors in one swing

YES

 

[JSnake]

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2337/

Niiiiiice.

 

[Volcynika]

For the lazy

Versus Mode Changes

* Tank melee attack can now hit multiple Survivors in one swing
* Fixed Tank punch being able to hit targets behind walls
* Fixes to 'Tank parking'. The Tank will now run back and attack the Survivors if he becomes AI due to two players expiring the frustration meter
* Fixed a case where a Tank frustration meter could run out right as he was in his death animation and he would come back to life
* Fixed a case where the Tank was moving too slowly while crouching and being shot
* Tanks now have the possibility of spawning in a slightly different position for the first and second teams
* The order that the teams play as Survivors is now determined by which team has the higher overall score. The winning team will play as Survivors first
* The Smoker tongue can now target and grab victims through common infected
* Increased the cone in which a Smoker can grab a target
* The Witch no longer cuts Smoker tongues in a radius around her
* Boomers that explode in mid-air will now hit Survivors directly below them with Bile
* Reduced the damage that burning Hunters do to pounced victims
* Adjusted the time at which players take over from bots to avoid 5 seconds of the bot standing idle while the player finishes connecting.
* Fixed some cases where versus score was not being recalculated properly. It is no longer beneficial to pass pills between players at the end of the round or heal other players and then shoot them
* Fixed a case where it was possible to spectate an AI infected and hit +use to take them over


Server Changes

* Added convar sv_gametype that allows server operators to limit the types of games that will start on their server. Default value is 'coop,versus'. Can be changed to just 'coop' or just 'versus' to limit to those game types


General changes

* Fixed a case where players would join as a dead Survivor when a living Survivor was still available
* Fixed a case where restarting a level due to the team dying would give more than the max primary ammo on restart
* Fixed the speaking icon showing up on the local player during level transition if voice_vox was set to 1
* The scoreboard now shows the numeric value of a player's ping


GameUI

* Quick match will now try to match to any campaign. Removed the preference to match to games according to the player progressing through all campaigns
* Games in a finale are now joinable via the Friends and Steam Group games list

 

[Blizzard]

Wow, they just updated it...and I'm too late to spam the thread with the details. Oh well, who wants to click a link, I'll do it anyway. :lol

Versus Mode Changes


Tank melee attack can now hit multiple Survivors in one swing

Fixed Tank punch being able to hit targets behind walls

Fixes to 'Tank parking'. The Tank will now run back and attack the Survivors if he becomes AI due to two players expiring the frustration meter

Fixed a case where a Tank frustration meter could run out right as he was in his death animation and he would come back to life

Fixed a case where the Tank was moving too slowly while crouching and being shot

Tanks now have the possibility of spawning in a slightly different position for the first and second teams

The order that the teams play as Survivors is now determined by which team has the higher overall score. The winning team will play as Survivors first

The Smoker tongue can now target and grab victims through common infected

Increased the cone in which a Smoker can grab a target

The Witch no longer cuts Smoker tongues in a radius around her

Boomers that explode in mid-air will now hit Survivors directly below them with Bile

Reduced the damage that burning Hunters do to pounced victims

Adjusted the time at which players take over from bots to avoid 5 seconds of the bot standing idle while the player finishes connecting.

Fixed some cases where versus score was not being recalculated properly. It is no longer beneficial to pass pills between players at the end of the round or heal other players and then shoot them

Fixed a case where it was possible to spectate an AI infected and hit +use to take them over


Server Changes

Added convar sv_gametype that allows server operators to limit the types of games that will start on their server. Default value is 'coop,versus'. Can be changed to just 'coop' or just 'versus' to limit to those game types


General changes

Fixed a case where players would join as a dead Survivor when a living Survivor was still available

Fixed a case where restarting a level due to the team dying would give more than the max primary ammo on restart

Fixed the speaking icon showing up on the local player during level transition if voice_vox was set to 1

The scoreboard now shows the numeric value of a player's ping


GameUI

Quick match will now try to match to any campaign. Removed the preference to match to games according to the player progressing through all campaigns

Games in a finale are now joinable via the Friends and Steam Group games list

 

[PillowKnight]

The Smoker tongue can now target and grab victims through common infected

Increased the cone in which a Smoker can grab a target

The Witch no longer cuts Smoker tongues in a radius around her

Boomers that explode in mid-air will now hit Survivors directly below them with Bile

Yeees, about damn time!

Also the SDK was updated, I thought this was the patch for some reason .

 

[Baha]

Nice changes, tanks are gonna be harder to deal with now since their swings hit more than 1 survivor (no more easy wall camping) and smokers + boomers got a nice fix. Versus mode just got a lot more interesting.

 

[Blue Geezer]

Tank melee attack can now hit multiple Survivors in one swing

YES

best news in ages.

edit: i take it back this is:

The order that the teams play as Survivors is now determined by which team has the higher overall score. The winning team will play as Survivors first

 

[Blizzard]

The smoker updates look great. Winning survivors playing first sounds like a great idea, and tanks can now spawn in slightly different locations, again good.

But the reduced burning hunter damage? Hunters already had reduced damage, and they're really hard to hit with...they needed nerfed more?

I also don't like that they got rid of tank parking.

 

[RocketDarkness]

Smoker tongue fixes YES.

 

[Sibylus]

Yeees, about damn time!

Also the SDK was updated, I thought this was the patch for some reason .

Agreed, the common infected thing was really annoying at times, exploding and not splashing was kinda irritating too.

 

[Volcynika]

The scoreboard now shows the numeric value of a player's ping

 

[Nabs]

Tank melee attack can now hit multiple Survivors in one swing

Boomers that explode in mid-air will now hit Survivors directly below them with Bile

The Smoker tongue can now target and grab victims through common infected

Increased the cone in which a Smoker can grab a target

holy shit, yes!

thanks valve

edit:

Reduced the damage that burning Hunters do to pounced victims

NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Blizzard]

I wish to play Left 4 Dead and try these changes.

However, I also wish that hunters were not now EVEN WEAKER. Survivors need to be nerfed more! They should hardly ever survive, etc.!

I also wish for more maps. ;____;

 

[DaFish]

Valve delivers!


Flamming hunters, not so much :/

 

[RocketDarkness]

Valve delivers!


Flamming hunters, not so much :/

Let's see how severe the nerf is on them. I can't really disagree with the idea of reducing the damage, as long as it's not overkill.

 

[Nabs]

I'm worried.

 

[DaFish]

I'm worried.

Someone hold me...

 

[Blizzard]

I'm worried.

I just noticed the irony of your tag, given it's a valid British spelling. :lol

=DaFish]Someone hold me...

I will, now that my tongue can make it through ordinary zombies.

 

[PillowKnight]

I agree with the flaming hunter nerf. That thing did way too much damage for too little risk, using fire was such a no brainer.

 

[mattso]

is this just for pc or did the 360 get this update too?

 

[Daigoro]

Smoker buffs. YAY!

 

[PillowKnight]

is this just for pc or did the 360 get this update too?

We're all talking about the pc version, odds are it's pc only atm.

 

[RocketDarkness]

is this just for pc or did the 360 get this update too?

360 updates are so far behind, we rarely talk about them. Definitely PC-Only right now, I'd expect to see it come with the new content in a month or so.

 

[Madman]

Great update. Now I just have to wait for the 360 version to get it.

 

[MrDaravon]

Man that update looks awesome. I look forward to getting it in like 2 months on 360

Slightly confused about this one though:

* Fixed some cases where versus score was not being recalculated properly. It is no longer beneficial to pass pills between players at the end of the round or heal other players and then shoot them

Was this some sort of glitch or something? To make sure I understand correctly, I thought any temporary health you have at the end of a round due to pills counts towards your health bonus, is this correct and is this changing that at all?

 

[AmericanNinja]

is anyone having any troubles with L4D after this update? my game pauses every few mins. then I can go back to playing then pauses. weird.

 

[marvelharvey]

Slightly confused about this one though:

I hadn't heard about the pill passing glitch. However, sometimes the scores were incorrect; last night, my team's score was calculated for NM1, 1132 points. Then, when we moved onto the loading screen, the display read 1140 points. Hopefully this has been fixed in the patch.

 

[Oreoleo]

Anyone want to play? The new tweaks looks awesome.

Steam name Oreoleo

 

[Blue Geezer]

tank still doesnt work right

smokers are now really awesome and might even help against closet campers as i was pulled out of a house when i was meleeing the entrance hitting zombies and they got some real damage in.

 

[Blizzard]

tank still doesnt work right

smokers are now really awesome and might even help against closet campers as i was pulled out of a house when i was meleeing the entrance hitting zombies and they got some real damage in.

In what way? Also, how much was flaming hunter damage reduced? (to me it wasn't a "no-brainer"...you have to find fire, make even MORE noise to let humans know where you are, make yourself easier to see by being brightly on fire, you can't walljump, you give yourself a limited window of opportunity to attack and you die faster...)

 

[SundaySounds]

Tank Buffs: Yes

No more Tank parking: YES

Smoker buffs: Cool

Flaming hunter nerf:

Also some neat general tweaks.

Go valve.

 

[RocketDarkness]

Smoker is as awesome as it sounds. Tongue feels like it goes red faster, and they weren't kidding about it not breaking. Smoker is now an infected to be feared.

 

[ahoyhoy]

# Tanks now have the possibility of spawning in a slightly different position for the first and second teams
# The order that the teams play as Survivors is now determined by which team has the higher overall score. The winning team will play as Survivors first
#Adjusted the time at which players take over from bots to avoid 5 seconds of the bot standing idle while the player finishes connecting.

Woooooooo!!!