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The Official Left 4 Dead Thread
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And that's why you don't add vertopci on Steam. He and PillowKnight with their "run back to the saferoom when the tank comes" tactics make for a nice 2.5 hours or so. :lol :lolfallengorn said:
It may be the best strategy, but good gravy it's often not very fun. And it's hard for me to find that kind of a time block (not counting the 20-30 minutes to get the lobby together).
Blizzard said:
Cry more why don't you? Also bolded part is bullshit. Aside from that, it's not like I invite you. You know what you're in for when you ninja into the lobby.
How did you like not being able to join our game last night Blizzard? A birdie told me you started up L4D when everyone else was joining :lol
Volcynika said:I always love to play the game of "come up with an excuse to make vert rage." It's fun!
But I play sometimes...! And then we lose.
You won that one time when you were on my team!
Besides, at least you lost in an awesome that one time when my team quad incapped your team with 4 hunters
I know, it's such an easy game to play. :lolVolcynika said:I always love to play the game of "come up with an excuse to make vert rage." It's fun!
But I play sometimes...! And then we lose.
For reference, even when I'm on vert's team I don't like running back to the saferoom. It's just funny to see game tactics change, since people like PillowKnight used to really vocally advocate charging the tank and hunting it down. Maybe that's still used in some cases.
It's also weird that vert actually isn't a jerk when he's on the mic. I guess he was just restraining himself temporarily.
It'll probably never happen, but I would like to see a Valve update that either makes the tank faster, or does something about the timer so survivors can't simply outrun it on most maps, especially since it can't even follow in some of those cases without being extremely careful not to be set on fire. It just seems odd for the TANK zombie to be one of the ones you have to be most paranoid and careful with, sniping with rocks in the distance, knowing that if you were in sight you would be dead in 10 seconds from survivors you can't catch.
*edit for Twig*
Vert is "special", in the sense that he likes insulting people.
He also has a permanent wound to his heart since he always used to invite me to games, but I removed him from my friends list since he posted a weird sexual comment or two to my Steam profile, and my younger brother is one of my Steam friends so that's one of the reasons I'd rather that sort of stuff not be there.By the way, what's YOUR Steam name now? Botolf and I were trying to figure it out the other day but I couldn't figure it out unless you were the wotwotimarobot guy.
TheOneGuy said:
Blizzard is in love with me but refuses to admit it. On the other hand, I fucking hate Blizzard like no one can imagine. Plus he's a nub and jealous of my very sexy voice and is constantly talking on mic hoping his voice will evolve into one as sexy as mine.
Latest L4D 360 complaint: an increasing number of teams using power shot glitch. We were playing against a fairly decent team, the only difference is they were power shotting in unison. This effectively made the tank useless.
We won until they voted to go back to lobby and kicked us all out for complaining about the power shotting.
We won until they voted to go back to lobby and kicked us all out for complaining about the power shotting.
Last night, I didn't have time to play, and I was still going to drop into the lobby just to tell everyone that I was there, but didn't have time to play.vertopci said:
I have horrible time management skills and am still working on adjusting my sleep schedule.
Working long hours sux.Had the most annoying death yesterday.
Since I've switched ISP, I can now hosts games (previous ISP ADSL modem, didnt like Left4dead much).
I've never gotten Mercy on expert due to this; and asked GAF for help.
sonic, Cap'ndrake and dygit (as kdgd or something) helped.
We played pretty good, very few deaths, and mostly due to bad luck or lagging.
Anyhow, final level, and we used the stairs (due to me wanting the achivment badly). First tank down without a sweat, 2nd down aswell, rush to helipad.
Sonic I think got downed on the way, I had to fight my way there, about 40 hps left, crawling toward the heli, I turned and threw my molo to get zombies off Drake.
dygit then proceded to incapitated me with his shotgun inches from the heli.
Drake saw this, and started reliviing me. 50%...60%...70.80...yes! going to make it, at what appeared a full bar, the end-of-game animation started. With me fucking dead, and only dygit making it.
Very frustrating to say the least!
So I have to try again sometime. Please add me if you dont have me, and have ok skills
SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198003369001
Since I've switched ISP, I can now hosts games (previous ISP ADSL modem, didnt like Left4dead much).
I've never gotten Mercy on expert due to this; and asked GAF for help.
sonic, Cap'ndrake and dygit (as kdgd or something) helped.
We played pretty good, very few deaths, and mostly due to bad luck or lagging.
Anyhow, final level, and we used the stairs (due to me wanting the achivment badly). First tank down without a sweat, 2nd down aswell, rush to helipad.
Sonic I think got downed on the way, I had to fight my way there, about 40 hps left, crawling toward the heli, I turned and threw my molo to get zombies off Drake.
dygit then proceded to incapitated me with his shotgun inches from the heli.
Drake saw this, and started reliviing me. 50%...60%...70.80...yes! going to make it, at what appeared a full bar, the end-of-game animation started. With me fucking dead, and only dygit making it.
Very frustrating to say the least!
So I have to try again sometime. Please add me if you dont have me, and have ok skills
SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198003369001
Red Scarlet
Member
Volcynika said:
Yeah, it was pretty cool, a couple parts were really tough. There may be 2 spots that are endless crescendos..one we couldn't get past and just warped to the next level (couldn't find where to go/it was most likely at the end), and Mutfox had some hosting problems on level 3..his game/server would crash sometimes if there were lots of zombies in a certain area.
Did you play it? If not, gimme a hollar tomorrow.
Red Scarlet
Member
Raggy said:Had the most annoying death yesterday.
Since I've switched ISP, I can now hosts games (previous ISP ADSL modem, didnt like Left4dead much).
I've never gotten Mercy on expert due to this; and asked GAF for help.
sonic, Cap'ndrake and dygit (as kdgd or something) helped.
We played pretty good, very few deaths, and mostly due to bad luck or lagging.
Anyhow, final level, and we used the stairs (due to me wanting the achivment badly). First tank down without a sweat, 2nd down aswell, rush to helipad.
Sonic I think got downed on the way, I had to fight my way there, about 40 hps left, crawling toward the heli, I turned and threw my molo to get zombies off Drake.
dygit then proceded to incapitated me with his shotgun inches from the heli.
Drake saw this, and started reliviing me. 50%...60%...70.80...yes! going to make it, at what appeared a full bar, the end-of-game animation started. With me fucking dead, and only dygit making it.
Very frustrating to say the least!
So I have to try again sometime. Please add me if you dont have me, and have ok skills
SteamID: http://steamcommunity.com/id/76561198003369001
I've helped a decent amount of folks get through expert, hit me up if you need someone and I'm around (I sent a request).
I've been having so much trouble getting the What are you trying to prove? achievement to unlock.
I've beaten No mercy, death toll and dead air and it says I'm at 3/4 but no matter what I do on Blood harvest it won't unlock.
Last time I played I went the whole campaign, never died or went idle, and got on the APC. Nothing.
I wanted to smash my fucking head into something.
This is on the 360 version. Anybody know what's up?
I've beaten No mercy, death toll and dead air and it says I'm at 3/4 but no matter what I do on Blood harvest it won't unlock.
Last time I played I went the whole campaign, never died or went idle, and got on the APC. Nothing.
I wanted to smash my fucking head into something.
This is on the 360 version. Anybody know what's up?
Red Scarlet
Member
Did you get disconnected at all or turn off your game at the end before going back to the lobby? I don't know what can cause it on the 360 one, but I have a similar problem with 'all golds on survival'. It will not give me a gold for the map I have my highest time on, because when I was playing and got it the first time, my game crashed and something won't register or something.
Maybe something similar happened on your game? I remember Costanza didn't get the all pistols thing a long time ago because he took awhile to get 'into' the game at the beginning, and the other 3 players picking up our kits and guns THEN him coming in made the game decide he wasn't there for the whole campaign.
Maybe something similar happened on your game? I remember Costanza didn't get the all pistols thing a long time ago because he took awhile to get 'into' the game at the beginning, and the other 3 players picking up our kits and guns THEN him coming in made the game decide he wasn't there for the whole campaign.
Red Scarlet
Member
BH isn't bad on 1-player..I've managed to beat that one on expert alone. It's something to try to see if that fixes the problem, I guess. Some servers don't "count" achievements, at least on the PC one (I remember one, we got some achievement, maybe no barfs, and the server took us to the lobby before the achievement showed up for us).
Red Scarlet
Member
Doh.
Red Scarlet said:
Yeah, we played it. Wasn't sure if it was the server or just the map, but the framerate was so stuttery when we got through the later levels, it was just moving so slow. Then again, the server randomly killed people at the start of a map and left them spectating, so I might chalk it up to the server. We finished all the levels except for the finale and just quit when we lost the finale since we had played it a pretty long time.
Pretty cool map, a bit lengthy here and there, but some good ideas, and they kinda put some of the Valve map parts (like some from Death Toll) in there. We saw the water and my friend jumped in thinking we were supposed to go that way. :lol He died, of course. I remember trying to rush I think it was map 3, ran through the woods....boomer hit me...going crazy trying to get these zombies off me...then a FUCKING TANK in my face. That was fun. We had to bump it down to normal to get through it without as much hassle as we had on advanced though. This server also disabled the HUD whenever you got boomed on, so you couldn't see people's health, your own health, or anything.
We did hit one server before retrying due to some reason, where they gave us upgrades like ways to evade boomer/smoker attacks for one time and then laser sighted pistols plus our shots made zombies catch on fire! Hilarious.
Still need to play Back to School though, but since it's not even a complete campaign yet, I can wait on that if need be.
Oh, I have an alternate, less-drastic idea to make the tank better: Actually speed it up when it gets set on fire, or (maybe) not slow it down when it's getting shot by bullets. As far as I think people have told me, the tank gets faster when it's on fire in advanced or expert campaign mode, and that seems reasonable for versus too, to me. *shrug*
RocketDarkness
Member
I never understood why the tank fire speed so drastically in versus. Crazy Valve.
I enabled crawling while incapped and ledge release on my server. Good times.
I enabled crawling while incapped and ledge release on my server. Good times.
Versus is Normal difficulty so I believe the tank has the same speed as he does in Normal Coop mode.
Also speeding him up when on fire would make mollies useless in vs. It works fine in coop cuz the AI is a moron, but a real human would really fuck shit up with a fast tank.
Also speeding him up when on fire would make mollies useless in vs. It works fine in coop cuz the AI is a moron, but a real human would really fuck shit up with a fast tank.
Because the idea is for the survivors to have to fight for their lives and usually lose.vertopci said:
Right now (per your own experience) it's typically possible to camp with molotovs, charge the tank, or run back to the start of a map, rendering the tank effectively useless since (if I recall correctly) it can't even catch yellow survivors especially if it's being shot at. Add that to the fact that close-range punches sometimes go right through survivors, though that may just be because of lag or because I don't know hitboxes.I don't think good players usually have a problem slaughtering tanks, so I like the idea of unbalanced things that put survivors as a disadvantage. Incidentally, I probably wouldn't mind so much if the super competitive tourney people were allowed to have pipes, molotovs, and pills spawn in the same place for both teams. I think it would make it more fair, but I guess it might give the losing team too great of an advantage.
Blizzard said:Because the idea is for the survivors to have to fight for their lives and usually lose.
Yes it would make things harder for the survivors (which I like) but mollies would become 90% useless if it speeds up the tank. The only use mollies would have is for when the tank spawns far away and you are able to light him from far away.
Now maybe if the molly damage on the tank was increased by a decent amount I might think differently.
Botolf said:
Then it would be no fun playing the infected side :/
I don't know about faster, but I think the tank should get stronger as he takes more damage. So if a tank is red his punches would be instant incap.
They really need their own FF rules for vs too. I'm fine with zombie/special infected damage being on normal but FF should be a much bigger penalty on vs.
They really need their own FF rules for vs too. I'm fine with zombie/special infected damage being on normal but FF should be a much bigger penalty on vs.
I know, what I'm saying is that we could use that config and still have HPs. It might mitigate the increase in difficulty a little, make the infected team's challenge essentially to incap one or two survivors before they find health and essentially make them stall out.vertopci said:
Red Scarlet
Member
Raggy said:
I play with folks from Europe/Japan from time to time, and used to play a lot with a player from the Philippines. So you could come with us and we protect, or if you have some buddies over there and need 1 anyway, it's always doable.
Volcynika said:
We couldn't figure out where to go on level 2..at the graveyard. Guess it was an infinite horde, but we didn't know where to go there. Did beat all the other levels though. I recorded our finale for some reason. The actual finale wasn't bad aside from the super zombies at the start (bad place for us to be at).
weeee! got my new PC put together. just need to reformat and get new drivers, etc.
i cant wait to see how far i can push L4D now (stable framerate here i come!). its going to be glorious. hopefully ill be back playing late tonight or tomorrow at some point.
its been a while.
i cant wait to see how far i can push L4D now (stable framerate here i come!). its going to be glorious. hopefully ill be back playing late tonight or tomorrow at some point.
its been a while.
Red Scarlet
Member
Daigoro said:
If you have Mutfox on your list, he's been the organizer for doing custom maps. Maybe he can hook you up with some and we can do them again w/ you (or some new ones).