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[xDEILGYREx]

I thought the L4D content was plenty enough, and appreciated the update with Survival mode and including the other two campaigns for Verus.
Myself and my friends have no problems getting verus matches going on XBL with the public, and we regularly play coop and verus weekly and we have a good time.
Nice to see more content in Sept, to hold me over until L4D2; even if I have to pay 5 bucks for it; big whoop - totally worth it.
Sure is alot of complaining over a perfectly fine, if not awesome, videogame in online forums.

I'm probably just easy to please, though.

 

[Mudkips]

Between the first horde and Tank, what the pilot says always made me think that is when he got bitten. Going to be running a bit late, I just had a.... an incident. Going by zombie movie lingo, that means he's already been attacked and is going to turn.

The survivors are immune.
The infection can spread through the air.

(Of course he's infected and turning, the new campaign is called crash course and is between no mercy and death toll.)

 

[Ashhong]

Yeah, versus was where l4d should have shined, but they dropped the ball so many times. For the first 6 months, servers didn't work, exploits were over used, matchmaking was awful, balancing was awful, a whopping 2 maps to play, etc.

huh, i bought it on day 1 and had no trouble playing it online. i assume you have it on PC? sure there were exploits, but it was nothing that would ruin the game. my only gripe is the lack of a party system. makes joining a game with friends almost impossible.

The survivors are immune.
The infection can spread through the air.

(Of course he's infected and turning, the new campaign is called crash course and is between no mercy and death toll.)

for some reason i dont remember that line. i know hes turning, but i didnt think that until someone pointed out the "hidden vocal tracks".

and i played with someone named "Medkips" yesterday that had a mudkip avatar, any chance thats u?

 

[RocketDarkness]

Hey Mut, are you localhosting all these custom campaigns? Zelda apparently doesn't work on dedicated servers, so I was wondering if you just had a fast connection or had found some workaround.

Let me know when you guys do custom campaigns, I've been pretty busy lately, but every once in a while I might have time. And we can use my server too, of course. Yay crawling. <3

 

[Mudkips]

and i played with someone named "Medkips" yesterday that had a mudkip avatar, any chance thats u?

Nope.
Mudkips isn't my steam name.

 

[vertopci]

Still to this day, in every game, a big exploit or error occurs that ruins the game. A boomer landed on my head, blew up and nothing happened. Tanks still spawn in the stupidest places...got stuck in the elevator one time then got lit on fire behind the wall. To make matters worse, the only servers I find anymore are stupid modded ones that make this game sloppier than it already is or official ones that still kick everyone out every once in a while. The two "new" maps that they added in versus are really disappointing. 90% of the buildings on the new maps you can't even climb. Tank hit detection is still awful. The most boring parts of a versus games are the parts that are suppose to be the most exciting thanks to corner camping and not really giving the infected team many strategic options 95% of the time.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Good one.

Also you can't complain about corner camping considering its so so easy to counter 90% of the time.

 

[Tim-E]

huh, i bought it on day 1 and had no trouble playing it online. i assume you have it on PC? sure there were exploits, but it was nothing that would ruin the game. my only gripe is the lack of a party system. makes joining a game with friends almost impossible.

On PC it's incredibly easy to join a game with friends. Just host the game yourself and make sure your friends jump in there as soon as the game goes up, then have everyone immediately go infected/survivor.


Also, I'm kind of in the mood to play some versus on PC now. I've never played with anyone from GAF before (mainly because I don't think I'm very good :lol ), so if anyone would want to play a campaign or something right now, hit me up.

 

[Turfster]

Just tried playing heaven can wait with ducky and someone else, but they gave up in the third map because they didn't get their hand held by the maps and it was too confusing ;_;
Oh well, I liked it, even if the stupid mods on the server made it way too easymode.

 

[vertopci]

If you don't like teh servers with mods, just add every vanilla server you come across to your favorites. Then once you host the game, open up favorites, get the IP address and then in the console type "ms_force_dedicated_server #" where # is the ip address from the server in your favorites. And then you'll connect to that server assuming its empty.

 

[Haeleos]

If you don't like teh servers with mods, just add every vanilla server you come across to your favorites. Then once you host the game, open up favorites, get the IP address and then in the console type "ms_force_dedicated_server #" where # is the ip address from the server in your favorites. And then you'll connect to that server assuming its empty.

In the long term, Valve should have a better way of doing this. Almost every other server I jump on to is modded in some way. TF2 and L4D both need a Vanilla checkbox on their server browser UI.

 

[Ashhong]

Nope.
Mudkips isn't my steam name.

good, because he fucking SUCKED

On PC it's incredibly easy to join a game with friends. Just host the game yourself and make sure your friends jump in there as soon as the game goes up, then have everyone immediately go infected/survivor.


Also, I'm kind of in the mood to play some versus on PC now. I've never played with anyone from GAF before (mainly because I don't think I'm very good :lol ), so if anyone would want to play a campaign or something right now, hit me up.

i like joining games already in progress with friends, which is almost impossible.

In the long term, Valve should have a better way of doing this. Almost every other server I jump on to is modded in some way. TF2 and L4D both need a Vanilla checkbox on their server browser UI.

i play at least once a day and havent hit a modded server in at least 1-2 weeks now.

 

[Daigoro]

im in the Co-Op > Vs camp too.

i like vs, but not 1/2 as much as i enjoy campaign with peeps.

speaking of which... only like 4 hours left until L4D is redownloaded to my PC! :lol i had to start from scratch and that was the first game i chose to reinstall (after Plants vs Zombies, but that took 5 minutes).

i left it running at home, so if my connection holds up it should be ready when i get back from work.

ill hopefully be around very late night/early morning working out the kinks. ill be around over the weekend.

 

[Concept17]

After many months of romping through DA and NM with a select group of friends on VS, its gotten to the point where games are now being ruined by things OTHER than ragers.

For whatever reason, we can never find an even match. Its either a bunch of really shitty players, or a group that absolutely dominates every second of the game, from consistantly melee'ing over and over to just running strait through without a hiccup.

It seems like there are too many people now that have realized that you really can just run through each level if you know how to keep your teammates close together, and its made VS mode much less exciting. The less time a game takes, the more boring it becomes, whereas those games where the survivors are just scrapping by, but still have a good chance are always the best games. I really hope L4D2 makes an easier time of finding the right pacing from game to game.

Anyway, felt like ranting. I'm also looking for others to play with (PC) if anyone wants to add me. (aicos17)

 

[vertopci]

After many months of romping through DA and NM with a select group of friends on VS, its gotten to the point where games are now being ruined by things OTHER than ragers.

For whatever reason, we can never find an even match. Its either a bunch of really shitty players, or a group that absolutely dominates every second of the game, from consistantly melee'ing over and over to just running strait through without a hiccup.

It seems like there are too many people now that have realized that you really can just run through each level if you know how to keep your teammates close together, and its made VS mode much less exciting. The less time a game takes, the more boring it becomes, whereas those games where the survivors are just scrapping by, but still have a good chance are always the best games. I really hope L4D2 makes an easier time of finding the right pacing from game to game.

Anyway, felt like ranting. I'm also looking for others to play with (PC) if anyone wants to add me. (aicos17)

Your team is doing something wrong. So very wrong.

Spoiler

Unless its the fourth map of NM or DA

Also to all the new people in here who play VS, add me to friends list. ID is vertopci.

 

[Llyranor]

Never really got into Versus. Played it a few times, didn't really enjoy it that much. I'm usually not much of a PvP guy, though.

Love the co-op. Still haven't gone through all the campaigns in Expert yet. I think it's good that I don't have the awesome gaming skills that some players seem to - gives my games more lasting value!

My favorite mode is easily Survivor, though. Short sessions lasting less than 10 min with constant adrenaline, doesn't have some of the pacing issues the campaigns can sometimes have, and since it's on normal, I can still play this easily with other friends who aren't as experienced with shooters and we still all have fun (as a bonus, it makes surviving all the more challenging!). I don't think we've even Silver'ed a single map. Easy for some of you guys, but the challenge for me is loads of fun. Just having fun between buddies, without having to worry about people abusing the game.

 

[Daigoro]

Never really got into Versus. Played it a few times, didn't really enjoy it that much. I'm usually not much of a PvP guy, though.

Love the co-op. Still haven't gone through all the campaigns in Expert yet. I think it's good that I don't have the awesome gaming skills that some players seem to - gives my games more lasting value!

My favorite mode is easily Survivor, though. Short sessions lasting less than 10 min with constant adrenaline, doesn't have some of the pacing issues the campaigns can sometimes have, and since it's on normal, I can still play this easily with other friends who aren't as experienced with shooters and we still all have fun (as a bonus, it makes surviving all the more challenging!). I don't think we've even Silver'ed a single map. Easy for some of you guys, but the challenge for me is loads of fun. Just having fun between buddies, without having to worry about people abusing the game.

i on the other hand love competetive games and co-op games both very much. so it seems like co-op vs would be tailored perfectly for me.

but i get overly competetive and when i and/or my team start doing poorly i get 5x as pissed. it makes for a bad combo. i get pissy and start playing worse all while blaming my team. its ugly.

also 90% of the time in L4D vs it seems like its a blow out one way or another. either my team is kicking too much ass or sucking it. those rare times when both teams are evenly matched are LOTS of fun though. but they feel too infrequent.

 

[Blizzard]

Your team is doing something wrong. So very wrong.

Spoiler

Unless its the fourth map of NM or DA

Also to all the new people in here who play VS, add me to friends list. ID is vertopci.

Stop begging for friends! We're all onto your evil schemes! You just want us to add you so you can defeat us with your high-end competitive metagame scrim timed attack ways!

 

[vertopci]

Stop begging for friends! We're all onto your evil schemes! You just want us to add you so you can defeat us with your high-end competitive metagame scrim timed attack ways!

And by defeating you, you become better.

Spoiler

Well Blizzard doesn't, but everyone else does.

also 90% of the time in L4D vs it seems like its a blow out one way or another. either my team is kicking too much ass or sucking it. those rare times when both teams are evenly matched are LOTS of fun though. but they feel too infrequent.

The last 5 or 6ish GAF games I've played have been extremely even One even came down to how much health bonus the teams got on the finale :lol

 

[Daigoro]

And by defeating you, you become better.

Spoiler

Well Blizzard doesn't, but everyone else does.

The last 5 or 6ish GAF games I've played have been extremely even One even came down to how much health bonus the teams got on the finale :lol

sounds awesome. i love those games even if my team dosent win.

 

[Red Scarlet]

YES OMG IT WAS THE SAME FUCKING PLACE! OH GOD I HATE THIS MAP!

I'll play it with you sometime, it's fun watching other people get smooshed or other things.

 

[Sanjay]

The last 5 or 6ish GAF games I've played have been extremely even One even came down to how much health bonus the teams got on the finale :lol

Yeah I have to agree with you, you pretty much suk.

Also I hate every map except NM for VS.

 

[vertopci]

Yeah I have to agree with you, you pretty much suk.

Also I hate every map except NM for VS.

NO U SUX!

Spoiler

Nice fail tank btw

NM is the shittiest VS map! BH is the best followed by DA then DT.

 

[Red Scarlet]

That's another blah thing with vs now. Ever since DT and DA became available, that's all people wanted to play. I played No Mercy for the first time since then earlier this week.

 

[Volcynika]

NO U SUX!

Spoiler

Nice fail tank btw

NM is the shittiest VS map! BH is the best followed by DA then DT.

I'm not playing with you EVER AGAIN. That's just awful.

 

[vertopci]

I'm not playing with you EVER AGAIN. That's just awful.

Opinions don't exist on this. BH is the best map hands down 100% truth!

 

[Boonoo]

Opinions don't exist on this. BH is the best map hands down 100% truth!

Eh, maybe. I'm not a big fan of the BH3 (pills here) or 5 (infected feel so impotent, though, not so much so as in DA or DT5) .

I think the best set up would be:
BH1,DA2, NM3, DT4 and NM5.

 

[vertopci]

I like the BH finale cuz there's a whole shitload of things you can hit. Logs, haybarrels and the chairs :lol

 

[MutFox]

Are you guys guys playing Custom VS. maps yet?

 

[Boonoo]

I like the BH finale cuz there's a whole shitload of things you can hit. Logs, haybarrels and the chairs :lol

Yeah, the tank part of it is pretty satisfying, that's balanced out by being able to knock people off the roof in NM, though. I lean towards NM mainly because of the possibilities for the normal specials; they don't feel like a waste like they do when people are holed up in a house like in BH or DT or when they have no real chance of hitting the survivors like in DA. Its a bit boring waiting around for the tank to spawn.

 

[RocketDarkness]

Are you guys guys playing Custom VS. maps yet?

We really should do that. I've got quite a few maps set up, do you have to download the versus version, or are some of them simply coop & versus enabled straight out of one VPK?

 

[MutFox]

We really should do that. I've got quite a few maps set up, do you have to download the versus version, or are some of them simply coop & versus enabled straight out of one VPK?

L4DMaps.com will state what modes are enabled on that particular map.

 

[AgentOtaku]

Thanks again for the game guys!

 

[duckroll]

I don't know if I can take some of the map recommendations here seriously anymore. I tried Heaven Can Wait yesterday, and found it a really awful campaign. The maps are really badly designed, with really poor game design understanding. There are no indications of what the players should be doing or going at any given time, the pathing is awful, there are several places where you just end up going in circles, etc. It was a shitty experience and we all ended up quitting one after another because it just wasn't any fun to keep playing.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Well, out of the ones I played, it was one of the better ones. Power Station as an actual map isn't that great; it's about the unique feel to it with all the traps it has. I found it to be very comical if not taken seriously.

Still, I'd like to play it with you sometime and finish it; it feels like a Ninja Warrior/Sasuke-type thing, imo. Instead of just getting from point A to B and doing crescendo, it has environmental hazards as something different.

I have 16 custom maps/campaigns, and about 5 of those or less were decent/good; the rest had pacing issues, weren't finished, or were just downright boring.

Found a custom survival map that was fun, we decided to run through the map the whole time instead of stay in an area. Seemed a bit familiar.

Too bad you had to leave when you did, AO. But let's play again sometime.

 

[duckroll]

Well I don't think Powerstation is meant to be a serious map either. I agree it could be fun under certain circumstances. But Zelda and Heaven Can Wait really suck balls. Death Aboard and Coal'd Blood are probably the best custom campaigns I've played so far, even though I think the finale in Death Aboard could do with some serious tweaking, and Coal'd Blood isn't finished. Those are examples of good map design imo, because they have a very clear level path, and you feel like you're progressing through an interesting stage and it's really fun to play.

Heaven Can Wait is just sequence after sequence of generic L4D environments while getting lost or looking for the exit out of a ton of possible areas. It's worse when you've killed all the zombies and just want to move on, but get lost and end up going backwards. It's stupid because L4D is not an adventure game, it's a multiplayer action game. Definitely not what I'm looking for in a custom campaign! :/

 

[Red Scarlet]

Well I don't think Powerstation is meant to be a serious map either. I agree it could be fun under certain circumstances. But Zelda and Heaven Can Wait really suck balls. Death Aboard and Coal'd Blood are probably the best custom campaigns I've played so far, even though I think the finale in Death Aboard could do with some serious tweaking, and Coal'd Blood isn't finished. Those are examples of good map design imo, because they have a very clear level path, and you feel like you're progressing through an interesting stage and it's really fun to play.

Heaven Can Wait is just sequence after sequence of generic L4D environments while getting lost or looking for the exit out of a ton of possible areas. It's worse when you've killed all the zombies and just want to move on, but get lost and end up going backwards. It's stupid because L4D is not an adventure game, it's a multiplayer action game. Definitely not what I'm looking for in a custom campaign! :/

We liked Zelda because it had Zelda 1 stuff, so it was different and interesting (I love Z1 too, so..). Plus the boss was lol. We got lost on HCW when you go into that cave, but after I jumped into the deathwater, they found it. That was the only part we really got lost on, aside from the mad scramble to the safe room after the hall o' alarm cars. Play with us sometime and maybe they won't be so bad!

Coald Blood was fun aside from that weird elevator. I really think Death Aboard was 'good' simply because it was a completed campaign when the SDK was first out. I never really liked the 4th level on that (it never made me sick or anything, just the hit detection and stuff was always off due to the awkward angle of everything) or the finale, but it was a 'completed, new campaign' when there was nothing else to choose from that actually had 5 maps.

Dam It was fun, although that is just 1 map (a long one with a finale).

If you want BAD maps duck, try dead city and naniwa.

 

[RocketDarkness]

So far, Night Terror is by far the most impressive custom campaign I've played, just because of the theme.

 

[Sibylus]

I'm game for custom coop or versus, just give me a nudge on Steam.

 

[Turfster]

So far, Night Terror is by far the most impressive custom campaign I've played, just because of the theme.

I have 2 words for you:
Fuck. Moria.
The rest is indeed very nice and well made, but DAMN Moria is a piece of shit.

 

[duckroll]

I have 2 words for you:
Fuck. Moria.
The rest is indeed very nice and well made, but DAMN Moria is a piece of shit.

What, you mean you didn't like the part when we went insane and started suiciding over ledges and into the well? Or the part where we wander out of the tank room with one member dead and everyone limping, only to be hoarded in all directions with no idea where to go? Or the 5 other times that same thing happened? You mean that wasn't supposed to be FUN?! I guess that's why we voted RETURN TO LOBBY eh? :lol

 

[tenton]

What, you mean you didn't like the part when we went insane and started suiciding over ledges and into the well?

To be fair, the last time I did it, I was just saving us some time. If I'm going to die horribly, I'm offing myself, damn it.

 

[charsace]

anyone want to play custom at 9:00 est?

What is a good site to dl custom maps?

 

[Almak]

Any news on the Crossroads Mall map? I checked l4dmaps.com and its still listed as release: TBA but may be anyone heard something?
I'd also appreciate it if anyone could recommend me some good custom campaigns to play.

 

[Rickard]

Anybody want to help me beat Blood Harvest on expert? (360)

I've been having trouble getting games together and whenever I do people just get bored and quit out halfway through.

I've beaten Blood Harvest on Expert about 15 times so far and every time, for whatever reason, it hasn't unlocked on my what are you trying to prove achievement.

It's the last one I need and Blood Harvest is the only one I haven't beaten yet.

My GT is Rick Mapletree.

If anybody's up for it I'll be on for about the next 6 hours.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Hope you win.

 

[Llyranor]

Well, decided to play through the campaigns one more time before L4D2 comes out, so went on with 3 buddies through No Mercy on Advance (Expert was too intimidating for some of us - unfortunate). Pacing was better than I remember it - playthrough took about 1 1/2 hr. Still really good fun!

 

[Bluth54]

Any news on the Crossroads Mall map? I checked l4dmaps.com and its still listed as release: TBA but may be anyone heard something?
I'd also appreciate it if anyone could recommend me some good custom campaigns to play.

Just checked on the Steam L4D maps message board and found a topic asking for ideas for Easter eggs for the game, he says that they'll announce a date in a few days.

 

[Red Scarlet]

I have a q. Someone I know kind of wants this game, but according to this site, his video card just falls short and he can't play the game/doesn't meet the minimum system requirements. According to the site, I am just a little over the minimum..the main difference is our video cards. He has more RAM though..the site says this for us (he's on the left, I'm on the right):

Could he still play the game? Or is it impossible with that video card? Was hoping you computer folk would know..thanks.

edit: He said Half-Life 2 played fine, and the site said so too. Site also says he passes for TF2.

 

[IcedTea]

Since the video card supports all the required features it should play. Since it is a lower end model than the minimum required that means that it will run very poorly though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6-W3a5F-I

The person in that video apparently has the game running with lower specs than your friend.

 

[vertopci]

I have a q. Someone I know kind of wants this game, but according to this site, his video card just falls short and he can't play the game/doesn't meet the minimum system requirements. According to the site, I am just a little over the minimum..the main difference is our video cards. He has more RAM though..the site says this for us (he's on the left, I'm on the right):

Could he still play the game? Or is it impossible with that video card? Was hoping you computer folk would know..thanks.

edit: He said Half-Life 2 played fine, and the site said so too. Site also says he passes for TF2.

If you know him in real life, go over to his place, install the game with your account and test it out.

Since the video card supports all the required features it should play. Since it is a lower end model than the minimum required that means that it will run very poorly though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6-W3a5F-I

The person in that video apparently has the game running with lower specs than your friend.

Those graphic settings totally ruin the atmosphere.