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The Official Left 4 Dead Thread
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wayward archer
Member
Mantorok said:
It's pretty boring on normal. The AI infected do not put up much of a challenge at all... for some reason the boomer and smoker seem to spawn in the distance and then wander around trying to find a hiding place and you can almost always pop them before they're even in range.
I'm thinking it might be fun on expert where every normal infected in all that open space is deadly but I haven't played it yet.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
During our Expert campaign marathon, the Crash Course finale felt like running into a brick wall. The run to the finale is way longer than any other campaign and the finale is really easy to screw up. Somehow I don't think it has been properly balanced for expert. I think one extra set of medkits mid way through would help, but I would almost prefer this to just be three separate maps.
MidnightRider
Banned
grif1020 said:
Crap is HARD FOR SURE
I only played the story mode 3 times last night. I was mostly getting down on the Versus mode.
grif1020 said:
Wondering that way about versus. Maybe it's because nobody knew the map and we were going slower than normal as a result, but it took forever to play. It's almost as long as a regular campaign, but you're only getting scored on two maps and have less chance to make up the score for a bad run. Or if you did win the first and lost the second, then that long 1st map pretty much became pointless. Seems like 3 maps would have been a better idea.
Seeing the leader board thing after the first map and everybody in the 200s for kills was kind of funny. I thought CC was going to be a series of shorter levels (with the fillers removed.)
MidnightRider
Banned
:lol :lol :lol :lolArucardo said:
How in God's name do you do that?
xKilltheMx
Member
Anybody have a list of recommended (or heavily played) custom maps for L4D? I want to try them out since of the renewed interest in L4D.
Valve says: While containing both Survival maps and a Co-operative Campaign, the primary goal of Crash Course is to deliver a complete Versus mode experience in just 30 minutes, resulting in a streamlined version of the games existing Versus campaigns."
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/09/23/l4d-crash-course-release-date/
I didn't think I was hallucinating that. 7.5 minutes per side per round seems awfully optimistic. I call Valve time on that.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/09/23/l4d-crash-course-release-date/
I didn't think I was hallucinating that. 7.5 minutes per side per round seems awfully optimistic. I call Valve time on that.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Death Aboard is supposed to be good, only one I've really heard of though :lol .xKilltheMx said:
wayward archer
Member
1-D_FTW said:
It's definitely a lot faster than playing every map of No Mercy or Death Toll twice. But yeah 30 minutes would basically be both teams speed running the maps with no tank battle (or a bad tank player)
Personally I like the new maps in versus a lot, despite the return of the looping sound bug for me (although I think I figured that one out, the patch switched multicore rendering back on and now that i've turned it back off it seems better again).
MidnightRider
Banned
Buying my new HDTV after work today. I can't wait to see what the game looks like in HD!
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
The 25 hunter damage pounce achievement is pretty easy to get during the finale, just camp the highest roof and pounce once someone tries to start the generator. Don't forget you have two chances to try this.
Revolutionary
Gold Member
Or you can just pounce in the very beginning from the high roof. That's how I got mine... on my very first pounce in CC. lolgrif1020 said:
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I like Crash Course. If I had paid for it on 360 I'd probably be feeling pretty bummed, but as a free way of getting me back into the game before L4D2 I can't really complain about the length.
The "Steam" quips made myself and the three other people I was playing with all laugh at the same time. It's extremely goofy, but I love it.
The "Steam" quips made myself and the three other people I was playing with all laugh at the same time. It's extremely goofy, but I love it.
Coal'd Blood and Night Terror are pretty fun campaigns. Be warned, Night Terror's really hard in places (*** you, Moria map)xKilltheMx said:
Holy hell Left 4 Dead for $15? Bought.
Add me PC GAF I'd love to play with you guys =)
[GAF]Toxic_Punch
Add me PC GAF I'd love to play with you guys =)
[GAF]Toxic_Punch
Fox Mulder
Member
Why do microsoft points suck so much ass?
560 points for this is such an awkward price point given their shit system. The DLC is $7, but you can't just pay $7. It's either add 500 points for $6.25, or 1000 points for $12.50. Both options are pretty dumb if I only want to buy the DLC.
So I have to spend $12.50 to get this DLC when the whole game costs $15 on steam with free DLC. Nice.
560 points for this is such an awkward price point given their shit system. The DLC is $7, but you can't just pay $7. It's either add 500 points for $6.25, or 1000 points for $12.50. Both options are pretty dumb if I only want to buy the DLC.
So I have to spend $12.50 to get this DLC when the whole game costs $15 on steam with free DLC. Nice.
bkfount said:
Yeah, that's annoying. I see why they do it...it forces us to buy more of their space bucks than we need. Luckily, I had like 70 points left over in my account.
Any other 360 owners have trouble getting into a game since the pack came out? Normally I have no problems, but last night I kept getting fail messages when trying to get in a game from both quick match and custom game.
Red Scarlet
Member
syllogism said:
Thank you, worked like a charm.
I thought Crash Course was fun, but I've only really played it on expert with friends so far (18 minute run on normal to see if the sound worked/achievements stayed doesn't really count).
evil solrac v3.0
Member
how do i get custom maps? dumb question i know....
Red Scarlet
Member
Just go to l4dmaps.com and dl them, then unzip them in your 'addons' folder.
For me, the file path or whatever is: D:\steam\steamapps\common\left 4 dead\left4dead\addons
For me, the file path or whatever is: D:\steam\steamapps\common\left 4 dead\left4dead\addons
wayward archer said:
Why would anyone play on normal?
I found on Advanced it was significantly harder than the other four campaigns. The Special Infected seem to behave more intelligently and the director seems like more of an asshole. And we got like 3 Witches and 2 Tanks in a row. On Advanced.
Only played one round, but we were unable to beat the finale with 3 human, 1 AI after 4 tries, then one of us had to go. Gonna try again tonight.
Red Scarlet
Member
Give me a hollar if you need someone, Nessus.
I'm compressing the first try vid, but that'll take awhile.
I'm compressing the first try vid, but that'll take awhile.
My Crash Course Coop (Expert) impressions:
- It exceeded my expectations. Went in expecting a simple two map corridor crawl-type experience, but I got a lot more out of it than that.
- There's a lot of open space in the campaign, it's kind of got the room of Death Toll and some of the city-styled visuals of No Mercy.
- The possibility of a bridge entered my mind a few weeks ago, but I dismissed it because I figured they'd save the traffic bridges for L4D2 (there's one with jets and the like in that). I liked the lead up to it, where you jump down onto the cars and trucks and you walk beneath the traffic bridge. You can get stuck under some of the trucks on the road, but you can free yourself (eventually).
- The Howitzer and the minigun on the truck encounter was pretty cool.
- The new wall writings and the new character audio are hilarious :lol
- Wasn't expecting the individual maps to be so long and intricate.
- This seems like it's the longest/hardest finale in the entire game. There's weapons and items everywhere, but you're absolutely punished for it :lol . I liked how the abundance of propane tanks increased their tactical value against Tanks.
- Two more stub campaigns like this could link up the rest of the game (Death Toll to Dead Air, Dead Air to Blood Harvest). Maybe it's already on Valve's mind, as it would only require 4 more maps.
The No Mercy - Crash Course - Death Toll Expert marathon kept me up until 3 in the morning, was a hell of a good time though. Scarlet has footage of some wacky antics (One such lol moment: Me being grey and walking through the finale and blasting a zombie, that zombie was standing in front of two propane tanks slightly hidden by a tree. I die instantly). Can't wait to give this a whirl on Versus.
- It exceeded my expectations. Went in expecting a simple two map corridor crawl-type experience, but I got a lot more out of it than that.
- There's a lot of open space in the campaign, it's kind of got the room of Death Toll and some of the city-styled visuals of No Mercy.
- The possibility of a bridge entered my mind a few weeks ago, but I dismissed it because I figured they'd save the traffic bridges for L4D2 (there's one with jets and the like in that). I liked the lead up to it, where you jump down onto the cars and trucks and you walk beneath the traffic bridge. You can get stuck under some of the trucks on the road, but you can free yourself (eventually).
- The Howitzer and the minigun on the truck encounter was pretty cool.
- The new wall writings and the new character audio are hilarious :lol
- Wasn't expecting the individual maps to be so long and intricate.
- This seems like it's the longest/hardest finale in the entire game. There's weapons and items everywhere, but you're absolutely punished for it :lol . I liked how the abundance of propane tanks increased their tactical value against Tanks.
- Two more stub campaigns like this could link up the rest of the game (Death Toll to Dead Air, Dead Air to Blood Harvest). Maybe it's already on Valve's mind, as it would only require 4 more maps.
The No Mercy - Crash Course - Death Toll Expert marathon kept me up until 3 in the morning, was a hell of a good time though. Scarlet has footage of some wacky antics (One such lol moment: Me being grey and walking through the finale and blasting a zombie, that zombie was standing in front of two propane tanks slightly hidden by a tree. I die instantly). Can't wait to give this a whirl on Versus.
wayward archer
Member
Botolf said:
That would be really cool. Chet has said they are most likely going to return to the story of these 4 survivors after L4D2, so that sounds perfect for some more small campaigns. Although there's a rumor that Valve wants the two groups in each game to eventually meet up, so maybe there's an 8 player 6 campaign L4D3 coming out Nov 2010 for $60 while L4D2 only gets one mini campaign of it's own.
/cue gamer rage.
blackMamba1187
Member
Anyone wanna play (PC-co-op)?
Red Scarlet
Member
Botolf said:
http://redscarlet.paragonsigma.com/L4D/proptolf.avi
You shot a propane and then I did immediately after it looks like, which mine killed you. If you look carefully, you can see you teleported, too!
Charmicarmicat
Banned
Zoey: 'Hey Francis, we're passing gas'
Worth the price alone :lol
Worth the price alone :lol
Crash Course is glitchy as FUCK
You can glide through the containers in all the yards (unfair hiding spot for infected) and on top of that apparently survivors can see through containers since you can't spawn anywhere around them, and when we finished our match (and won, by the way), we didn't get the win Crash Course in versus achievement and on top of that we glitched through the truck and didn't get to see it escape.
You can glide through the containers in all the yards (unfair hiding spot for infected) and on top of that apparently survivors can see through containers since you can't spawn anywhere around them, and when we finished our match (and won, by the way), we didn't get the win Crash Course in versus achievement and on top of that we glitched through the truck and didn't get to see it escape.
Red Scarlet
Member
Achievements are messed up on the PC one too, so don't feel so bad. They're like how Lamb 2 Slaughter was; you'd have it on your Steam Profile, but every time you play the game, you lose them/don't have them there.
So to get that 5000 zombies one, you'd have to kill that many in one play session without exiting the game. :lol
Has anybody gotten any of the new dialogues to work as binds? I've tried a handful but they haven't worked.
So to get that 5000 zombies one, you'd have to kill that many in one play session without exiting the game. :lol
Has anybody gotten any of the new dialogues to work as binds? I've tried a handful but they haven't worked.
Update:
Item density calculation corrected for Versus games
Fixed weapon density in Crash Course
mp_gamemode now a valid command
New localized audio for Crash Course now available
Fixed achievement issues in Crash Course
Fixed dedicated servers not updating correctly to master server
Increased the timeout to fallback to listen server when searching for a dedicated server to 45 seconds
Item density calculation corrected for Versus games
Fixed weapon density in Crash Course
mp_gamemode now a valid command
New localized audio for Crash Course now available
Fixed achievement issues in Crash Course
Fixed dedicated servers not updating correctly to master server
Increased the timeout to fallback to listen server when searching for a dedicated server to 45 seconds
Nabs
Member
and for 360 users:
Left 4 Dead (360 dedicated only)
- Item density calculation corrected for Versus games
- Fixed weapon density in Crash Course
- Player controlled special Infected will no longer be trapped if they spawn in rescue closets
- Weapons and health kits in cabinets are now correctly respawned in the second Versus round
-Fixed a deploment issue on Xbox 360 dedicated servers that resulted in collisions not being properly detected. This issue is a server only issue
Left 4 Dead (360 dedicated only)
- Item density calculation corrected for Versus games
- Fixed weapon density in Crash Course
- Player controlled special Infected will no longer be trapped if they spawn in rescue closets
- Weapons and health kits in cabinets are now correctly respawned in the second Versus round
-Fixed a deploment issue on Xbox 360 dedicated servers that resulted in collisions not being properly detected. This issue is a server only issue