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The Official Pokemon Platinum Thread of Catching Them All (Again)

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Sixfortyfive said:
Magnitude doesn't blow the doors off of anything. It's way too unreliable. I also don't think ground moves are particularly effective against grass types. I believe the opposite is true.

When the pokemon are ~level 10, the varying attack power of Magnitude is fine. This isn't a pro fight, it's crashing through the forest grass. And that's why I mentioned flying moves, because it's likely there's notihng available that can do rock and flying at this point.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Hazaro said:
Can anyone inform me of major changes between this and Sapphire?

I got clued in on the EV and IV stuff already.

Stuff like more pokemon contests?

Battle tower?
:(
 

Kawaii

Member
Jiggy said:
It's random, but gender (along with stats, and nature, and ability, and shiny/non-shiny status) is determined when you say yes to the daycare guy to pick up the egg. So you can save in front of him and pick up the same egg repeatedly to get whatever you want, but once an egg is already in your lineup, it's set.

Gender, nature and ability are set when the egg is created.

IV's are determined when you accept the egg.

I dunno if you meant this but to make it more clear. ^^



Edit
@ above: Most important thing is the Pysical/Special attack split.
Before D/P every Fire attack for example was a Special attack and every Fighting attack was a Physical attack, now it depends on the move.

For example Fire Punch used to be Special, because it's a fire attack, but now it's Physical and Zenn headbutt is a Physical Psychic attack which wasn't possible before.
 

Barrett2

Member
Just got word that my 5 year old cousin has been using my wife's DS to play Platinum non-stop for five days, and is obsessed with the game.

The Pokemans have caught another one!
 

PusherT

Junior Member
:D So does anyone have the pokemon Carnivine willing to trade?

Alos anyone here want to do a lvl 50 battle? If so PM me I am ready to get my pkm battle on
 

Jiggy

Member
mattso said:
man I really want to use the move tutor on a bunch of my pokes but I don't want to dig for shards all day

grrr
If you have Star Pieces, a guy at Fuego Ironworks will trade one of each shard for each one. Also, a guy in the Great Marsh gives one shard per day.



Kawaii said:
Gender, nature and ability are set when the egg is created.

IV's are determined when you accept the egg.

I dunno if you meant this but to make it more clear. ^^
Er, yes, that's right about IVs. I must not be getting enough sleep or something lately since I've been screwing up facts or flubbing my points constantly this week. D:
 

mattso

Member
Jiggy said:
If you have Star Pieces, a guy at Fuego Ironworks will trade one of each shard for each one. Also, a guy in the Great Marsh gives one shard per day.



Er, yes, that's right about IVs. I must not be getting enough sleep or something lately since I've been screwing up facts or flubbing my points constantly this week. D:
is there any easy way to get star pieces.

There are like 4 moves I'd like to move tutor on right now so thats quite a few shards.
 

Captain N

Junior Member
so I now know that the sex if already picked when you get the egg, but is the same thing said for an egg having a Shiny Pokemon? I was wondering if there is any place that gives the odds for getting a shiny for every Pokemon when you've got an egg.
 

mattso

Member
Captain N said:
so I now know that the sex if already picked when you get the egg, but is the same thing said for an egg having a Shiny Pokemon? I was wondering if there is any place that gives the odds for getting a shiny for every Pokemon when you've got an egg.
I believe its something like a 1/8192 chance a pokemon you catch/breed will be shiny so even if it wasn't set when you get the egg (which I believe it is) you'd be resetting for quite some time.

I must have hatched hundreds of eggs in my breeding time with diamond and out of all that got one shiny bulbasaur I've been playing with now in this playthrough on plat.
 

Captain N

Junior Member
mattso said:
I believe its something like a 1/8192 chance a pokemon you catch/breed will be shiny so even if it wasn't set when you get the egg (which I believe it is) you'd be resetting for quite some time.

I must have hatched hundreds of eggs in my breeding time with diamond and out of all that got one shiny bulbasaur I've been playing with now in this playthrough on plat.

Does it say anything in the Pokedex about Shiny Pokemon after you get one?
 

grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Did they add more Fire Pokemon to Platinum? One of the few things I remember from Diamond was being pissed at the low number of Fire pokemon in the game. Wasn't Ponyta the only one?
 

Blizzard

Banned
Hazaro said:
Well that doesn't seem like a big difference, a better question I would guess is the jump from Sapphire/Ruby to Diamond/Pearl then. :/

I'm reading through all those posts, and there are a lot of things changed...

And wow, you can now record VS battles and post them to the GTS? I guess people can't view them on a computer os something, but still, that's neat.
 

Jiggy

Member
mattso said:
is there any easy way to get star pieces.

There are like 4 moves I'd like to move tutor on right now so thats quite a few shards.
Not really, no. :( Staryu carry them at a 5% rate, but in Platinum the Pokemon themselves are rare... I happened to get about fourteen Star Pieces just from going through the game normally and using the Dowsing Machine, but they're going to be rare from here on out.



grandjedi6 said:
Did they add more Fire Pokemon to Platinum?
Houndour's in, and Magmar can be gotten from Fuego Ironworks (as opposed to needing to beat the game and own Leaf Green and then still evolve a Magby).
Flareon's
another option since
Eevee
is given away before beating the game this time around.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Jiggy, get your butt on IRC! :(

Also, aside from my question about GTS, another change question: The changes list says that if you got the Toys R Us regigigas you can get the legendary regis. But it also says there's a Level 1 regigigas catchable ingame...so I assume if you missed the Toys R Us event you can't get the other legendary regis ingame?
 

Jiggy

Member
Hazaro said:
Well that doesn't seem like a big difference, a better question I would guess is the jump from Sapphire/Ruby to Diamond/Pearl then. :/
Major multiplayer stuff

-Attacks are physical/special dependent on individual move rather than on type (e.g. Ice Punch is now physical, Crunch is now physical, Shadow Ball is now special, and Silver Wind is now special, as they all should be)
-Auto-level option to adjust all Pokemon to level 50 or 100 for the sake of even fights
-Online, though I guess this goes without mention

Other multiplayer stuff

*Many abilities have effects on the overworld, e.g. Flame Body cuts egg hatching time in half, Magnet Pull attracts more Steel Pokemon, Synchronize attracts Pokemon of the same nature as the one with Synchronize
*Pass natures through breeding if the female/Ditto holds an Everstone
*EVs erasable with certain berries

Single-player stuff

-Day/night system
-Trainer rematches on demand with the Vs. Seeker, as opposed to waiting around with Trainer Eyes or whatever they called that slow thing in R/S/E
-Gym leader rematches
-One bike with two speeds instead of two bikes to swap between
-Itemfinder set to bottom screen instead of needing to use it as an item
-Various interfaces to show things like party health or an overworld map on the bottom screen while running around
*Move multiple Pokemon in a box at once by pressing Y and then dragging over several of them
*Two enemy singles trainers facing the same spot you're standing on can join together to force a doubles battle
*Battle Frontier, but you've probably already read up on that


* = These things were in Emerald too, but you're asking about Ruby/Sapphire. It was Select in Emerald for the Pokemon movement.


That's just off the top of my head.
 

Balb

Member
Blizzard said:
Jiggy, get your butt on IRC! :(

Also, aside from my question about GTS, another change question: The changes list says that if you got the Toys R Us regigigas you can get the legendary regis. But it also says there's a Level 1 regigigas catchable ingame...so I assume if you missed the Toys R Us event you can't get the other legendary regis ingame?

You need the TRU Regigigas to obtain Regirock, Regice and Registeel. There is an additional Regigigas that you can catch but it can't be used to obtain the other three Regis. Hope that was clear enough.
 

Blizzard

Banned
Balb said:
You need the TRU Regigigas to obtain Regirock, Regice and Registeel. There is an additional Regigigas that you can catch but it can't be used to obtain the other three Regis. Hope that was clear enough.

Lame. :( Is there any other way to get regigigas and the other regis through diamond/pearl/fire red/leaf green/emerald so I can trade with myself? (I only have one DS Lite though)
 

Balb

Member
Blizzard said:
Lame. :( Is there any other way to get regigigas and the other regis through diamond/pearl/fire red/leaf green/emerald so I can trade with myself? (I only have one DS Lite though)

You can catch Regigigas in D/P/Pt and the three other Regis in Emerald.
 

rainer516

That crazy Japanese Moon Language
Blizzard said:
Lame. :( Is there any other way to get regigigas and the other regis through diamond/pearl/fire red/leaf green/emerald so I can trade with myself? (I only have one DS Lite though)

Catch the regis in emerald, then transfer them through pal park and go catch a regigigas.
 

Jiggy

Member
Giard said:
Does Synchronize work with the likes of Mesprit, Cresselia etc?
It didn't in Diamond/Pearl, as far as I could tell. Don't know about Platinum, but I guess I can go test it.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Here to brag about my full Synchronizer team.

Carry on~
 

mattso

Member
sweeeeeeet. found an electirizer by valley windworks just exploring once I got surf and now I have my electivire.

Sister of the one I used competitively in diamond. Love the new sprite
 
My team:
Morferno
Sycther
Porygon
Larvitar
Magneton
Egg(Lapras)

I might change my team, still wondering what pokemon I should add...
 

Giard

Member
Here's an Azelf I caught..

Modest
HP: 1
Atk: 17
Def: 17
SPatk: 31
SPdef: 29
Speed: 25

I think I'm gonna keep it...any suggestions?
HP is awful, and modest makes Explosion weaker, but Modest + perfect SP atk and good speed make this very tempting.
 

Magnus

Member
Random question, and I apologize if it's been answered already somewhere.

I dropped Pokemon ages ago, but I remember each successive generation introduced some method of acquiring all the previous Pokemon in some form or another (via transfer, even between two different handhelds, say GBC to GBA, or via console games as prizes, or as giveaways, etc).

I have to wonder if it's possible in the current generation (Diamond/Pearl/Platinum) to actually catch every single last one somehow. I'm not aware of the connectivity between the GBA games and the current DS games.
 

Giard

Member
Balb said:
No I'm saying you should keep it.
Oh :lol
The way you wrote it, I thought you were thinking it was... "meh".

Magnus said:
Random question, and I apologize if it's been answered already somewhere.

I dropped Pokemon ages ago, but I remember each successive generation introduced some method of acquiring all the previous Pokemon in some form or another (via transfer, even between two different handhelds, say GBC to GBA, or via console games as prizes, or as giveaways, etc).

I have to wonder if it's possible in the current generation (Diamond/Pearl/Platinum) to actually catch every single last one somehow. I'm not aware of the connectivity between the GBA games and the current DS games.
You can transfer pokemon from your GBA games to the DS, but not from the DS to the GBA.
This makes it possible to have every last one..it IS long however..
The GTS makes it easier.
 

Balb

Member
Magnus said:
Random question, and I apologize if it's been answered already somewhere.

I dropped Pokemon ages ago, but I remember each successive generation introduced some method of acquiring all the previous Pokemon in some form or another (via transfer, even between two different handhelds, say GBC to GBA, or via console games as prizes, or as giveaways, etc).

I have to wonder if it's possible in the current generation (Diamond/Pearl/Platinum) to actually catch every single last one somehow. I'm not aware of the connectivity between the GBA games and the current DS games.

It's possible to obtain all 493 Pokemon. You can transfer your GBA Pokemon to your DS games using the GBA slot. The DS can also connect to the Wii for prizes as well as a WiFi certain event gifts.
 

Magnus

Member
Jesus. So how many are there now? I seem to recall gen 1 having 151 with Mew, gen 2 taking it to 251 or 252, gen 3 (R/S/E) breaking 340, and this new gen possibly getting over 450?

edit- nearly 500? Wow :lol
 
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Deleted member 21120

Unconfirmed Member
Captain N said:
How do you get the items when they show up right where your standing on the radar? I can't use dig.
Walk over that spot pressing A. From every possible angle.
 

Jiggy

Member
So, I was about 75% through with collecting data on the teams of every trainer in the game before it occurred to me that someone else has probably already done it. But nonetheless, I've already collected my info anyway and might as well share it. So here's everything you should ever want to know about the enemy trainers you can have rematches with.

Note: These are the trainers' upgraded teams. Some trainers will not level up their teams this far until you've hit the triggers that will allow them to, such as beating the Elite 4, obtaining the National Dex, and catching Heatran. If you haven't done those things, then be sure to check how far the trainers will go on your own copy of the game, by having multiple matches with them to see how far their levels will go. It's better than before blindly jumping in with Pokemon you really want to train and risking the possibility of needing berries to reverse your mistake.





Short Attention Span Version (AKA where to go and who to fight)

  • HP: Route 213. Tuber M Jared gives 6 EVs, and Tuber F Chelsea is right next to him and gives 3.
  • Attack: Route 203 for 8 EVs from Youngster Dallas if you don't mind switching out of Golem. Otherwise, go to Cycling Road for 6 Attack from Cyclist John.
  • Defense: Route 207 or 228. Hiker Kevin and PKMN Ranger F Krista each give 4 EVs.
  • Special Attack: Rainy Route 212's Scientist Shaun nets 5 EVs. If you don't mind needing a switch out of Lickilicky, Route 215's Ace Trainer F Maya grants 6 EVs.
  • Special Defense: Beauty Devon, Route 214, 6 EVs.
  • Speed: On the west side of Route 211, Ninja Boy Zach for 8.
  • Money: Route 212. Gentleman Jeremy or Socialite Reina for 24,400 each.





Long Attention Span Version (where to go, who to fight, where they are on the route, and what advantages or disadvantages they have relative to other trainers giving the same EVs; also lists more options than the above version)


HP

On the beaches of Route 213, Tuber M Jared and Tuber F Chelsea await to give 6 and 3 HP EVs respectively from teams of three Gastrodon and an Azumarill. Nothing else even comes close to having these two standing within range of each other, though since they're in the 50s for their level range, you'll need at least moderate power. Gastrodon takes Double Super Effective Damage (TM) from Grass, at least.

Alternatively, PKMN Trainer Cheryl sometimes shows up in the cafe in the Survival Area, though it's only a chance--and even if she does appear, you can only fight her once per day. Her team of Wobbuffet, Drifblim, Wailord, Hariyama, and Blissey is in the early 60s for levels and will give you 11 HP overall. Just make sure that whatever you lead with can beat her Wobbuffet. Blissey is particularly wonderful for experience, as well.


Attack

You have some options.

1) On Route 203, Youngster Dallas is the second trainer you'll spot if you're coming from Jubilife, and he builds up to a team of Luxray, Bibarel, Golem, and Staraptor, each level 50. He grants 8 Attack EVs, but avoid KOing Golem unless you want 3 Defense on the side. Having Golem around does make it easy if you're training a separate wall simultaneously, but if you're EV training via Exp. Share, then this trainer is not a viable choice to train purely the Attack stat.

2) On Cycling Road, Cyclist M John, the fifth cyclist down from Eterna, builds to a team of Farfetch'd, Staraptor, and Dodrio for a cool 6 Attack, all in the high level 50s. He's not quite up to par with Youngster Dallas for raw EVs, but at least one Pokemon can hit all three of his Pokemon for super-effective damage with the same attack.

3) Swimmer M Sheltin is out and about past the shores of Route 213, packing three Gyarados for 6 Attack. It's a bit annoying to Surf out to him and need Repels, but the Pokemon are only in their early 30s, unlike the above two options. And that 4x weakness to Electric might benefit you.

4) Another lover of the seas, Swimmer F Jessica is the first trainer of Route 220 coming from Sandgem, and she uses three Goldeen and a Seaking. That's 5 Attack EVs, which is less than all other options here, but her Pokemon are easier to beat than the rest as well, being as low-level as the Gyarados above but not having Intimidate. And because there are four of them, Pokemon holding a Power Bracer (adds another 4 Attack EVs on top of the EVs from whatever it is you KO) will actually get more from her than from others.


Defense

1) Hiker Kevin stands atop a mountain on Route 207 with a team of three Geodude and an Onix. He's tied for the game's best by giving 4 Defense, and Power Belt users will particularly love him. Low-level Pokemon with a Water or Grass attack can take him on their own, as all his Pokemon are below level 20.

2) In the post-game's Sandstorm-laden Route 228, PKMN Ranger F Krista has a Lairon and Marowak at level 57 each. She gives 4 Defense too, and the Sandstorm conditions negate most of the speed advantage that could have come from only having to fight two Pokemon instead of Hiker Kevin's four. However, if you need to level up while you EV train, she's a better choice.


Special Attack

1) On Route 204, Lass Samantha is the final trainer you'll spot coming from Jubilife--the southmost, in other words--and builds up to a team of Combee, Beautifly, and Roselia in the early 50s. Like Youngster Dallas, you can't use Exp. Share here because the Combee gives 1 Speed--unless you don't mind 1 Speed, naturally. Sweep the other two for 5 Special Attack.

2) Route 209's PKMN Breeder F Jennifer, who's the third trainer from Solaceon, carries an interesting team of Roserade, Clefable, Mr. Mime, and Espeon, hovering around level 50. Roserade and Espeon are the ones you want to fight for 5 Special Attack, while Clefable gives 3 HP and Mr. Mime gives 2 Special Defense. The main issue with fighting her is that only half her team is helpful to special attackers, so you're using time by switching before Clefable and Mr. Mime come out. And again, Exp. Share is out of the question here.

3) The rainy area of Route 212 needs you to pack Cut and bike north to Scientist Shaun, who's hiding behind a tree with his Magneton and Alakazam in the mid-50s. 5 Special Attack again, but unlike the above two, you can freely use Exp. Share. High levels for his Pokemon give good experience, too.

4) From Veilstone, Ace Trainer F Maya stands just at the entrance to Route 215 with a Roserade, Gardevoir, and Licklicky hovering around level 60 this time. Here you can get 6 Special Attack, which beats out others, but this is another case where Exp. Share is unviable, as Lickilicky gives 3 HP. She's the best here for experience points, though.


Special Defense

Beauty Devon on the east side of Route 214 carries three Wormadam at level 24 and gives 6 Special Defense. Nobody else approaches her.

...Still, if you're ever really, really bored of fighting her after a while then I guess you could try Lady Melissa in front of the Pokemon Mansion on Route 212. Avoid her Cherrim and its 2 Special Attack, but Hoppip and Bellossom combine for 4 Special Defense, and Lady Melissa does give over 18000 cash if you're carrying an Amulet Coin or Luck Incense. Her Pokemon are level 58, also.


Speed

1) On the north end of Route 205, near Eterna, Fisherman Andrew will rock your world with the devastating power that is six Magikarp ranging from levels 8 to 14. If you can manage to take them down, which tends to require that you be at least so high as level 4 (lest they PP stall you with their defenses), they'll give 6 Speed EVs total. Power Anklet users will truly love this guy, but if you don't have one then you should probably go elsewhere since it takes a while to knock out six Pokemon.

2) The southmost trainer of Cycling Road, Cyclist F Kayla, constructs an Electric mouse team with Plusle, Raichu, and Minun, each level 58. She grants 5 Speed, and overall there's little reason to train with her, but maybe she could have her uses if you're already around Cycling Road for Cyclist M John. Too bad they're not within the same VS Seeker range.

3) On the west end of Route 211, coming from Eterna, Ninja Boy Zach runs a level 51 bat team with two Crobat and a Golbat that must have been knocked out too much to love him and evolve. He gives 8 Speed, which is the game's best, and the only reason one might possibly hesitate to train with him is that you'll need Repels since he's out in grass. It's not so bad, though.


Money

On Route 212, Gentleman Jeremy and Socialite Reina stand around and are ready to give you charitable sums of 24,400 each (if you're holding an Amulet Coin or Luck Incense) for their level 61 Chatot and Roselia.

I don't recommend trying to simultaneously EV train and make money, since it just slows down each individual process, but if you want to, then (in addition to Lady Melissa as mentioned in the Special Defense section) Socialiate Reina's Roselia gives 2 Special Attack, and Rich Boy Trey at the west end of Route 222 gives 3 Attack and almost 20,000 in cash with his level 61 Luxray.
 

mattso

Member
Giard said:
I kept it, and now Smogon is on my back :lol

They're too serious about competitive battling.
a few ivs here or there really make no difference.

and awesome post jiggy

I have a ton of ev trained pokes on my diamond so I don't know how much I'll have to do on this one unless I re-breed certain ones or go for new ones but that will def. help
 

Giard

Member
mattso said:
a few ivs here or there really make no difference.
Yeah, I know. Unless you're super competitive like those guys.

Jiggy, thanks so much for the guide! I was just about to ask if you had updated it!
 

Teknoman

Member
Jiggy said:
So, I was about 75% through with collecting data on the teams of every trainer in the game before it occurred to me that someone else has probably already done it. But nonetheless, I've already collected my info anyway and might as well share it. So here's everything you should ever want to know about the enemy trainers you can have rematches with.

Note: These are the trainers' upgraded teams. Some trainers will not level up their teams this far until you've hit the triggers that will allow them to, such as beating the Elite 4, obtaining the National Dex, and catching Heatran. If you haven't done those things, then be sure to check how far the trainers will go on your own copy of the game before blindly jumping in with Pokemon you really want to train and risking the possibility of needing berries to reverse your mistake.





Short Attention Span Version (AKA where to go and who to fight)

  • HP: Route 213. Tuber M Jared gives 6 EVs, and Tuber F Chelsea is right next to him and gives 3.
  • Attack: Route 203 for 8 EVs from Youngster Dallas if you don't mind switching out of Golem. Otherwise, go to Cycling Road for 6 Attack from Cyclist John.
  • Defense: Route 207 or 228. Hiker Kevin and PKMN Ranger F Krista each give 4 EVs.
  • Special Attack: Rainy Route 212's Scientist Shaun nets 5 EVs. If you don't mind needing a switch out of Lickilicky, Route 215's Ace Trainer F Maya grants 6 EVs.
  • Special Defense: Beauty Devon, Route 214, 6 EVs.
  • Speed: On the west side of Route 211, Ninja Boy Zach for 8.
  • Money: Route 212. Gentleman Jeremy or Socialite Reina for 24,400 each.





Long Attention Span Version (where to go, who to fight, where they are on the route, and what advantages or disadvantages they have relative to other trainers giving the same EVs; also lists more options than the above version)


HP

On the beaches of Route 213, Tuber M Jared and Tuber F Chelsea await to give 6 and 3 HP EVs respectively from teams of three Gastrodon and an Azumarill. Nothing else even comes close, though since they're in the 50s for their level range, you'll need at least moderate power. Gastrodon takes Double Super Effective Damage (TM) from Grass, at least.


Attack

You have some options.

1) On Route 203, Youngster Dallas is the second trainer you'll spot if you're coming from Jubilife, and he builds up to a team of Luxray, Bibarel, Golem, and Staraptor, each level 50. He grants 8 Attack EVs, but avoid KOing Golem unless you want 3 Defense on the side. Having Golem around does make it easy if you're training a separate wall simultaneously, but if you're EV training via Exp. Share, then this trainer is not a viable choice to train purely the Attack stat.

2) On Cycling Road, Cyclist M John, the fifth cyclist down from Eterna, builds to a team of Farfetch'd, Staraptor, and Dodrio for a cool 6 Attack, all in the high level 50s. He's not quite up to par with Youngster Dallas for raw EVs, but at least one Pokemon can hit all three of his Pokemon for super-effective damage with the same attack.

3) Swimmer M Sheltin is out and about past the shores of Route 213, packing three Gyarados for 6 Attack. It's a bit annoying to Surf out to him and need Repels, but the Pokemon are only in their early 30s, unlike the above two options. And that 4x weakness to Electric might benefit you.

4) Another lover of the seas, Swimmer F Jessica is the first trainer of Route 220 coming from Sandgem, and she uses three Goldeen and a Seaking. That's 5 Attack EVs, which is less than all other options here, but her Pokemon are easier to beat than the rest as well, being as low-level as the Gyarados above but not having Intimidate. And because there are four of them, Pokemon holding a Power Bracer (adds another 4 Attack EVs on top of the EVs from whatever it is you KO) will actually get more from her than from others.


Defense

1) Hiker Kevin stands atop a mountain on Route 207 with a team of three Geodude and an Onix. He's tied for the game's best by giving 4 Defense, and Power Belt users will particularly love him. Low-level Pokemon with a Water or Grass attack can take him on their own, as all his Pokemon are below level 20.

2) In the post-game's Sandstorm-laden Route 228, PKMN Ranger F Krista has a Lairon and Marowak at level 57 each. She gives 4 Defense too, and the Sandstorm conditions negate most of the speed advantage that could have come from only having to fight two Pokemon instead of Hiker Kevin's four. However, if you need to level up while you EV train, she's a better choice.


Special Attack

1) On Route 204, Lass Samantha is the final trainer you'll spot coming from Jubilife--the southmost, in other words--and builds up to a team of Combee, Beautifly, and Roselia in the early 50s. Like Youngster Dallas, you can't use Exp. Share here because the Combee gives 1 Speed--unless you don't mind 1 Speed, naturally. Sweep the other two for 5 Special Attack.

2) Route 209's PKMN Breeder F Jennifer, who's the third trainer from Solaceon, carries an interesting team of Roserade, Clefable, Mr. Mime, and Espeon, hovering around level 50. Roserade and Espeon are the ones you want to fight for 5 Special Attack, while Clefable gives 3 HP and Mr. Mime gives 2 Special Defense. The main issue with fighting her is that only half her team is helpful to special attackers, so you're using time by switching before Clefable and Mr. Mime come out. And again, Exp. Share is out of the question here.

3) The rainy area of Route 212 needs you to pack Cut and bike north to Scientist Shaun, who's hiding behind a tree with his Magneton and Alakazam in the mid-50s. 5 Special Attack again, but unlike the above two, you can freely use Exp. Share. High levels for his Pokemon give good experience, too.

4) From Veilstone, Ace Trainer F Maya stands just at the entrance to Route 215 with a Roserade, Gardevoir, and Licklicky hovering around level 60 this time. Here you can get 6 Special Attack, which beats out others but this is another case where Exp. Share is unviable, as Lickilicky gives 3 HP. She's the best here for experience points, though.


Special Defense

Beauty Devon on the east side of Route 214 carries three Wormadam at level 24 and gives 6 Special Defense. Nobody else approaches her.

...Still, if you're ever really, really bored of fighting her after a while then I guess you could try Lady Melissa in front of the Pokemon Mansion on Route 212. Avoid her Cherrim and its 2 Special Attack, but Hoppip and Bellossom combine for 4 Special Defense, and Lady Melissa does give over 18000 cash if you're carrying an Amulet Coin or Luck Incense. Her Pokemon are level 58, also.


Speed

1) On the north end of Route 205, near Eterna, Fisherman Andrew will rock your world with the devastating power that is six Magikarp ranging from levels 8 to 14. If you can manage to take them down, which tends to require that you be at least so high as level 4 (lest they PP stall you with their defenses), they'll give 6 Speed EVs total. Power Anklet users will truly love this guy.

2) The southmost trainer of Cycling Road, Cyclist F Kayla, constructs an Electric mouse team with Plusle, Raichu, and Minun, each level 58. She grants 5 Speed, and overall there's little reason to train with her, but maybe she could have her uses if you're already around Cycling Road for Cyclist M John. Too bad they're not within the same VS Seeker range.

3) On the west end of Route 211, coming from Eterna, Ninja Boy Zach runs a level 51 bat team with two Crobat and a Golbat that must have been knocked out too much to love him and evolve. He gives 8 Speed, which is the game's best, and the only reason one might possibly hesitate to train with him is that you'll need Repels since he's out in grass. It's not so bad, though.


Money

On Route 212, Gentleman Jeremy and Socialite Reina stand around and are ready to give you charitable sums of 24,400 each (if you're holding an Amulet Coin or Luck Incense) for their level 61 Chatot and Roselia.

I don't recommend trying to simultaneously EV train and make money, since it just slows down each individual process, but if you want to, then (in addition to Lady Melissa as mentioned in the Special Defense section) Socialiate Reina's Roselia gives 2 Special Attack, and Rich Boy Trey at the west end of Route 222 gives 3 Attack and almost 20,000 in cash with his level 61 Luxray.

Thanks for doing this :D Hopefully it'll be added to the main post.
 
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