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The second Wachowski filmmaker sibling has come out as trans.
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Frozenprince
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Good for her for being able to be honest with herself and the public at large.
As always I hope the Daily Fail burns in a tire fire.
One is, sadly, more culturally relevant as an icon.
As always I hope the Daily Fail burns in a tire fire.
One is, sadly, more culturally relevant as an icon.
It's a tough road as far as I understand, so I'm glad that they both have such a wonderful support group. Wachowski sisters sounds pretty great.
Regarding Sense8, it was good... maybe not great, but good. The first few episodes are maybe a bit preachy, but it's not like there is a lot out there being preachy about trans lives, so I think it was due. Overall, the dialogue has ups and downs, and there are a few things I don't understand about how the powers are supposed to work, but the very unique concept and the lets-not-take-ourselves-too-seriously approach helped overcome those issues.
Regarding Sense8, it was good... maybe not great, but good. The first few episodes are maybe a bit preachy, but it's not like there is a lot out there being preachy about trans lives, so I think it was due. Overall, the dialogue has ups and downs, and there are a few things I don't understand about how the powers are supposed to work, but the very unique concept and the lets-not-take-ourselves-too-seriously approach helped overcome those issues.
It's hard to open up, but I think throughout the past year it's been at least a little bit easier and more accepting for others to not lash out an make and incredibly big deal about someone else's business. Caitlyn Jenner went all in, had a long interview announcing the transition, and is just in general in more of the spotlight. The Wachoski's are very private people.
Simply Sarah
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Honestly, a big part of this is that the Wachiwskis are fairly private whereas Cait seems to just want tons and tons of attention.
freethoughtbubble
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Good for her! The Wachowski Sisters has a great ring to it.
And fuck the Daily Mail for knowingly engaging in a practice that puts trans individuals at an elevated risk of violent death or suicide. Human scum.
And fuck the Daily Mail for knowingly engaging in a practice that puts trans individuals at an elevated risk of violent death or suicide. Human scum.
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Cait Jenner has always been the face of her brand and visible to the public. Being seen succeeding has always been her job both now and before. The Wachowskis are private and their job was behind the scenes.
VERY! I remember when Matrix came out it only added to the mystic because they wouldn't do press. All anyone knew was they are from Chicago. Of course this was before the social media boom.
JHoNNy1OoO
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Whatever makes them happy. Still, holy shit what are the odds of this!?!
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Lana mentioned that when they were gearing up for Cloud Atlas, the studio said they either had to do press or the studios wouldn't make the movie at all. They elected to walk away from the project, at which point the studio caved and said they don't have to do press.
One came out to the Windy City Times, the other came out in a Vanity Fair exposé with the promise of a reality television program.
You can complain whatever you want about sense8 ... but this series is RIDICULOUSLY creative, both in idea and execution.
The logistics of shooting a conversation that is happening in two completly diferent places in the world is INSANE and it happens like 4 times each episode
interesting premise. execution and writing leaves a lot to be desired. so yeah, not that good.
I guess so. Just bitter that such a conservative tool is the self-appointed ambassador for the trans community.
AuthenticM
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Can we start calling them "the Wachowski sisters"? Because that's pretty cool.
Good for her!
Good for her!
Because said athlete has been a part of recent pop culture since 2007. The Wachowskis haven't had a film that resonated with the general US population since 1999. Yeah the second and third films of trilogy did well but they're nowhere near as loved as the first. Everything after bombed hard.
The sisters are also nowhere near as vocal as Jenner. There's no conspiracy here, people fade from the public eye. If one of them were on TMZ every week this would be different.
They are extremely tight. Of course Lana knew.
Are they twins by any chance? Wouldn't be terribly unusual if that's the case.
legacyzero
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Awesome.
Now get to work on the new Matrix movie.
Now get to work on the new Matrix movie.
HUELEN10
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It's called Gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder (GID), not transgender identity.
And no major sibling GID/ Gender Dysphoria studies at least that I know with adults.
What I most what to know about (not that it's my business) is how each of them discovered their trans identity. Was it all one person at once, then all the other person? Or was one slightly farther along in the transition than the other, and gave advice and counsel to the one not as far along? Etc.
Love almost everything they've done, though I still need to watch through Sense8 (first episode was good, but I got distracted by other shows). Haven't seen Speed Racer yet, either. Other than that The Matrix defined my teens and is still one of my favorite trilogies ever, and Cloud Atlas is honestly one of my favorite movies of all time. Can't wait to see what they do next. No matter what gender they are or I think they are or anything, they're amazing artists just the same.
Really sucks Lilly couldn't come out on her own terms. Fuck the Daily Mail.
Yeah this would be kind of fascinating to hear about, but as you said it's obviously none of our business and she can divulge whatever she feels like divulging or nothing at all.
Wish her luck.
Really sucks Lilly couldn't come out on her own terms. Fuck the Daily Mail.
Yeah this would be kind of fascinating to hear about, but as you said it's obviously none of our business and she can divulge whatever she feels like divulging or nothing at all.
Wish her luck.
One of the things I've heard can happen is that the amount of testosterone may be higher/lower than normal, affecting finger digit development (longer ring finger for higher testosterone, longer index if lower), and that's apparently dictated by the baby, not the mother. So I'd think it's less the womb and more the genetics involved, which may or may not come from the mother's side. Which probably would make it more likely for gay/trans siblings.
I suppose a non-binary gender identity could be called a "transgender identity" but that's more under the umbrella of genderqueer or... non-binary gender identity!
Start with Bound and work your way up.
SodiumBenzoate
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were they twins?
Morrigan Stark
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Huh, interesting. Never heard of two siblings being transgender before, that must be unusual.
Good for her. Not a fan of their films at all, but "the Wachowski Sisters" has a nice ring to it!
Good for her. Not a fan of their films at all, but "the Wachowski Sisters" has a nice ring to it!
AgentOtaku
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Good for her! 
Still LOOOVE their work
Still LOOOVE their work
FrontalMonk
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Shitty that she was coerced and forced into outing herself, but I'm really glad Lilly has a group of loving and supportive friends and family to surround herself with. Like she said in her statement, a LOT of trans folk don't have that luxury.
The show has 8 leads. It establishes them, their problems and personalities and gives you a vague sense of their psychic link. Then it starts telling the story, and picks up it's pace dramatically.
If anyone watched the first few and then dropped it, I'd urge you to revisit it.
Chmpocalypse
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Much love. You be you, sister. You're beautiful.
GavinUK86
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Yup. The Matrix trilogy is 3 of my favourite films of all time but Sense 8 was just horrible.
peaceiscloser
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Now we can say a sister filmmaking duo made some of the most groundbreaking films ever. Get it in the film history books.
linkandzelda
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