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The Sims 4 |OT| Behold its true form and despair!
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You really don't understand the concept of running out of new things to do in a Sims game and that a lack of content can quicken this feeling?
Eh, I've logged literally hundreds of hours into the series, but with the Sims you definitely reach a point where you say, "Okay, now what?" Usually after you've played enough in the sandbox and reached the top of a career, or you realize the content's getting repetitive. That's why they release expansions in the first place (to create new forms of gameplay), and why there needs to be enough content in the base game... or that's when you start turning to mods.
EDIT: I'll also say that it's a concern for any sequel, especially one that appears to return to Sims 2-style gameplay. Like, what if you reach a point where you say, "Okay, I put my time in; how is this experience different from all that time I put into the previous games? I'm still going through the same daily routines, disappearing for work for a couple of hours a day, etc." The Sims 3 changed that style of gameplay from the Sims 2, but if you've already played the previous entries it's possible this could feel like more of the same base gameplay.
Yeah, this. Money and aspiration awards are not easy to come by. Building relationships is still somewhat easy, but not AS easy as Sims 3. Plus, they seem to decay a bit faster and its easy to tear one apart with negative interactions. I've been working hard as a chef and am only about to get to Level 3 and am halfway through Young Adult. The goals you have to get to advance make it more difficult than filling a bar (which is included), but not as irritating as Sims 2 where there is the friend requirement.
The emotions do come out in interesting little ways. For example: when flirty, my sim does a hip bump on the punching bag when box, or when he was angry and took an angry shit (poop).
One thing I have noticed is that the mexican version on origin is 34.99 while the US version is 59.99
Bought the mexican version because that's the store it pointed me out to, could have used a US card but didn't want to transfer to that account. Used the local card and went thru no problem.
For 35 bucks it's not that bad. Now, I need to check if I downloaded the english version. Would suck if I got the one in spanish
Hah, did this end up working for English?
I know people did this for Titanfall and it seemed to work fine, so I'm curious. My sister wants this and that'd certainly be a lot easier to bite on.
ricardokenshin
Member
dunno, still an hour before I get out of work. Will update when I get home.
Complistic
Member
Yeah, anyone going out and buying the game based on first day opinions are setting themselves up for disappointment.
Wait a solid week for things to settle.
Wait a solid week for things to settle.
I bought Sims 1, 2, and 3 on launch day.
Not this one. Fool me four times, etc. waiting for the first couple packs
Sims 3, to me, did not feel like it was barren with content from the start. Create A Style, for example, really allowed you to get the most out of the base furniture.
I only played the base Sims 3, never bought an expansion, and never really felt like there were glaring omissions. Tons of things to do.
I don't care if Sims 4 is snappier or whatever. Because they removed as many things as they did, that were present in the Sims 3 base game (and even Sims 2), I cannot bring myself to support this game. Especially considering I would have had no intention in buying expansions, for at least the near future. I'm not paying $60 + $40 or however much those countless expansions cost, for content that has no reason to not be in the base game.
The fact they removed two life stages was enough for me to disregard this game completely. But family trees, pools, less base content, smaller lots too? No brainer, it's a no buy. 2 steps forward and about 10 steps back.
Edit: Well no Mac version is rather laughable and further seals the deal.
I only played the base Sims 3, never bought an expansion, and never really felt like there were glaring omissions. Tons of things to do.
I don't care if Sims 4 is snappier or whatever. Because they removed as many things as they did, that were present in the Sims 3 base game (and even Sims 2), I cannot bring myself to support this game. Especially considering I would have had no intention in buying expansions, for at least the near future. I'm not paying $60 + $40 or however much those countless expansions cost, for content that has no reason to not be in the base game.
The fact they removed two life stages was enough for me to disregard this game completely. But family trees, pools, less base content, smaller lots too? No brainer, it's a no buy. 2 steps forward and about 10 steps back.
Edit: Well no Mac version is rather laughable and further seals the deal.
spindoctor
Member
A friend of mine just gifted me this game. He had pre-ordered it for himself on Origin and then his girlfriend surprised him with a retail copy. He could have returned the physical copy or taken the Origin refund but instead he gave the key to me, which is pretty cool. It's still a preload for me though so I can't play it for another couple of days.
You can use a VPN. It isn't against Origins rules either.
spindoctor
Member
Yea I know but I'm actually juggling a couple of games already. Plus I'm not exactly dying to play it asap either.
To me, this sounds incredibly bad ...
Intheflorsh
Banned
So is this game actually not bad or is it just not as bad as we were expecting?
I would really love a great new Sims game.
I would really love a great new Sims game.
It works, yeah.
Depends what you value in the series. If you like playing as your Sim, interacting with other Sims the most, then the game will be an upgrade. If you value the creation aspect of the series, then the game is probably a major downgrade. Overall things like game smoothness and load times are improved though.
spindoctor
Member
I think it's going to be like Simcity. What's there is fun but at the same time what's there isn't much.
Not really like Sim City then.
Sim City was riddled with problems outside its feature list, it was bloated, always online and the engine they built for moving packets which they bitched about was a failure at launch and took ages to be patched to be working properly and logically.
The Sims sounds like its only down fall is features and even then it has the feel of a basic Sims 2 version.
spindoctor
Member
For all it's flaws, I actually enjoyed the core gameplay of Simcity. Of course this was after the online system had stabilized and the simulation had been fixed a bit. My biggest problem was that no matter how efficient I was, I'd fill in a city within a few hours. And then I was done. I couldn't get into the multicity thing so I dropped the game.
I reckon this game will be similar. From impressions it sounds like what they've put in is fun but it comes at the expense of depth in the game.
Laieon
Member
That was my situation as well. I legitimately enjoyed the game for a good 30-40 hours.
I'm considering picking this up, I don't necessarily mind if it's more Sims 1/2 and less Sims 3.
Well I caved and picked the game up lol. As I've said in other threads, I actually never really liked a few of the things they removed and this sounds more appealing to me outside of missing careers, no pools, and no toddlers, so I should have have much problem. Also, I like how the towns are smaller, but still populated this time around.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Awwww... He is doing the pee pee dance
Wait.... what the?
Wait.... what the?
Ya, watching the TB stream, just to see how different it seems, and it still looks of quality. The game has such a mass appeal that I hesitate to want to destroy the game, and the game looks pretty good. Hopefully it doesnt take advantage of the consumer in a way the consumer cant realize.
Otherwise I hope it does well, because this game does a lot of good in terms of getting people into gaming.
Otherwise I hope it does well, because this game does a lot of good in terms of getting people into gaming.
To be honest the whole lack of content thing is more like a perception than an actual fact. This game easily has the most content out of all four base games.
For example, in build/buy mode the Sims 4 pretty much doubled the number of unique objects in every category compared to the Sims 3 base game.
Object count for some items
Showers & Tubs: 7 (TS3); 18 (TS4)
Wall lamps: 7; 18
Computers : 3; 9
TVs: 5; 9
Desks: 5; 11
Bookshelves: 9; 16
Windows: 26; 57
Indoor plants: 19; 44
Dressers: 6; 12
Rugs: 12; 42
For example, in build/buy mode the Sims 4 pretty much doubled the number of unique objects in every category compared to the Sims 3 base game.
Object count for some items
Showers & Tubs: 7 (TS3); 18 (TS4)
Wall lamps: 7; 18
Computers : 3; 9
TVs: 5; 9
Desks: 5; 11
Bookshelves: 9; 16
Windows: 26; 57
Indoor plants: 19; 44
Dressers: 6; 12
Rugs: 12; 42
Good to know! Still considering whether to buy this for my niece within the next month
I think that's a fair point, but are you counting re-colors? Like, with Create-A-Style in TS3 you could almost make an infinite number of color / texture permutations of any base object; since TS4 seems to go back to the "Maxis recolors only" model of the Sims 2, you kind of need more copies and styles of objects (windows, computers, etc.) to try to make up for the lack of customization since Create-A-Style is gone.
MisterCrow
Member
Dug up some crystal rock in a backyard and got a box, opened the box and out popped a figurine which I can place and click on to "Enable Emotional Aura". What's that aura do? I can't really tell much of a difference.
It's supposed to alter your mood.
I played the shit out of TS1-3 and I never ever touched create a style. Seemed hokey and dumb. The fact that most of the complaining about TS4 is about create-a-style actually makes me feel better about the game being OK.
The huge performance hit TS3 took with the towns makes me feel okay about the lots too.
Huh
I honestly didn't even know create a style was a thing until it was removed lol.
Bacon_Boss
Member
Bought it, and having fun but uh... Sims are vanishing. I made a 2 sim household of me and my brother and all of our friends magically fell off the face of the game. The babies still exist though.
Can you do a count without recolors? Because recoloring and texturing was available with infinite possibilities (for free) in TS3.
I think the Sims appeals to a lot of different player types who play it for different reasons. And it's true some players just aren't going to care about style and customization options... but at the same time, are those players likely to care how many item style options there are in buy / build mode in the first place (which is what the poster was counting)?
I don't know, from the comments / reactions I've been reading, there's a pretty significant portion of the userbase (mostly female, but male as well) that liked the building and interior decorating aspect of the previous entries, making customized or matching furniture and item sets and wallpapers, etc., and they've been a bit... frustrated... with the return to the TS2 recolor system.
Which is fine if that's not part of the appeal of the game to you (like, I don't personally care about the lack of storyboard progression since I liked TS2's individual, manual control of all families), but it's something to consider for people comparing the game to previous entries.
I could be wrong, but looking at the in-game items, he's not counting recolors.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Goddamnit I might give in and get this full price. I love The Sims... and 2 was my favorite, so...
I just got done playing for about 4 hours after work. So far I'm loving the game. Everything is really easy to do and my sims actually listen to my commands surprisingly quick. I moved my sim in with 3 others to try it out in a pre built house. It got really hectic worrying about the needs of 4 sims at a time. I decided to move two of them across the street. Is there a way to choose if you want a sim to control themselves? Or do they have to be out of your area?
artsi
Member
Hey guys, anyone playing? This thread is dead
I'll be after I get home from work. I played all the evening yesterday, installed the game on an SSD so the loading times are barely noticeable. I like it.
Just from top of your head - do you know the amount of space it takes? I might throw it on SSD too. (10gb according to specs I saw?) Ty, man.